Hell again List, If you would like more information on my book, go to my web site at: www.JoanWheelerLaGrone.com. Joan

Hello List, I will be in Perth on the 13th of November at the Perth Library from 11:00 to 2:00 for a book signing for my new book " Edmonstone Chronicles, Royal Knights and Scottish Kings". The book has received good reviews and is a history of Scotland as told through the Edmonstone Knights from 1063 to 1750. The Edmonstone Knights served the Kings of Scotland and married two of their daughters. Sir James Edmonstone, Newton of Doune, carried the Royal Standard for James VIII at Sheriffmuir November 15, 1715. This battle is discribed in the book. Hope to see many of you there. Joan La Grone

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Yes she does, and I've forwarded your e-mail to her. Sara william macgregor wrote: > Could some KS tell me if Helen Curtis still does look ups and if she does could she communicate with me > Bill MacGregor Bath, Ontario Canada > > > ==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== > ----------------------------------------------- > Visit the PERTHSHIRE Mailing List Web Site at > http:// www.rootsweb.com/~sctper/ > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html > ----------------------------------------------- > >

Could some KS tell me if Helen Curtis still does look ups and if she does could she communicate with me Bill MacGregor Bath, Ontario Canada

Hi, It is CULTMALUNDIE. There are a few of them Laigh, Easter & Wester etc. about 1 mile west if Tibbermore. Ian McDougall \\!// Pitlochry, Perthshire ( QQ ) macdoug@btinternet.com ---- o00o-(_)-00o----- -----Original Message----- From: Ursula [mailto:ursularclarke@yahoo.com] Sent: 23 October 2004 14:02 To: PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PERTH] Wester Culmalindy Hello, I have a reference to a christening that took place in Tibbermore in 1726 - the parents, James GOWANS and Katherine WATSON are refered to as being "in Wester Cultmalindy". Does anyone have any idea where this is? Ursula --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! ==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== -------------------------------------------------- ENJOY the list. Ask questions and share information. If you have an issue, contact the list administrator, Pamela.Paddock.Arnold PERTHSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html --------------------------------------------------

Hello, I have a reference to a christening that took place in Tibbermore in 1726 - the parents, James GOWANS and Katherine WATSON are refered to as being "in Wester Cultmalindy". Does anyone have any idea where this is? Ursula --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

Hi Jim, I spent this afternoon looking through the OPR for Tibbermore, and came up with the following: Marriage record: James McGrigor in this parish and Isabell Allan that of Perth, three weeks of banns marked on June 21st 1807, marriage marked on June 25th 1807. one child is registered in Tibbermore, presumably they moved after this point: 31st March 1808 - James McGrigor, smith of Huntingtowerfield, and his spouse Isabel Allan, had a son born in Christ and baptised this date, called John There is no mention in the register of the family being Dissenters at this point, but from a look at the other McGregor/McGriegor names in the OPR, he could well have links to Dissenting families. The following details are the offspring of the only McGriegor couple mentioned in Tibbermore until James and his wife: 19th Sept 1779 - Duncan McGriegor and his spouse Jean Livingstone had a child baptised called Margaret 2nd Dec 1781 - Duncan McGrigor in Burngrange and his spouse Jean Livistone had a child baptised called John 15th Feb 1784 - Duncan McGriegor in Tofthouses and his spouse Jean Livingstone had a child baptised called Alexander 25th Apr 1786 - Duncan McGriegor in Burngrange and his spouse Jean Levistone had a child baptised called Elizabeth 28th Dec 1788 - Duncan McGriegor in Tofthouses and his spouse Jean Livingstone had a daughter baptised called Ann I didn't find an entry for the birth of James McGregor himself, but it would seem a fairly good bet that these are his parents and siblings. Another possible link is the presence of an Elizabeth Livingstone, possibly a sister of the aforementioned Jean, married to an David Buchan of Gloagburn. Four of their children are mentioned in the register, all of whom were baptised by seceded ministers: Isobell - registered by parents request 3rd Mar 1771 Margaret - registered by parents request 19th Oct 1772 (both baptised by Rev John Wilson, seceding minister at Methven) Elizabeth - registered 24th Feb 1777 (baptised by Rev Brown, seceding minister in Abernethy) James - registered 10th Aug 1780 (baptised by Rev John Wilson, seceding minister at Methven) There are three other, later mentions of the name McGrigor: 4th Nov 1809 - John McGrigor and spouse [Kathryn?] Clark had son born called John [note in margin - "anabaptist"] 9th Sep 1810 - Duncan McGrigor at Ruthvenfiled and his spouse Margaret McIntyre had a son born in Christ and baptised this date named David 20th Aug 1812 - John McGrigor of Ruthvenfield and his spouse Charlotte Brown had a child born in Christ and baptised this date called Robert Low I hope this is of some use to you, and I'll keep an eye out for any other likely looking links. Regards, Debbie Murray At 02:38 20/10/04, you wrote: >Hi, Debbie > >Thanks for the offer. > >If you should run across a James MCGREGOR, blacksmith at the >Huntingtower bleachfields, I'd appreciate a shout. He married >Isabel (Bell) ALLAN from Perth in 1807, and they then located in >the city. They seem to have been Dissenters, so I haven't found >anything in the Tibbermore OPRs, although their children are >recorded in the Perth OPRs. > >I suppose if you're looking at censuses, 1807 is going to be a bit >early for you. Still, if something should catch your eye . . . . . > >Jim Polson >Vancouver

Hi, Debbie-- Many thanks for this! I didn't have John, the first son of James & Bell. I had fortunately noted John and his wife Mary MCDONALD in the 1851 census, though. I think it's probably the right one, since one of his sons is named Allan (his mother's maiden name and also the name of his brother), and his age is right on. His birth place is given as Perth, not Tibbermore, but that's not surprising if his family moved to the city when he was an infant. John and Mary were married in 1834. Their children were John McDonald (1839), Alexander (1844), Allan (1845), and Christiana Cadell (1846). I'm reluctant to conclude yet that James MCGREGOR's parents were Duncan and Jean, since neither name shows up among the children. MCGREGORs turn up everywhere, unfortunately, so they may not even be related. Still, it's more data for the hopper. Thanks again, Debbie. You've given me a few new cousins and they may provide even more leads. Jim Polson > I spent this afternoon looking through the OPR for Tibbermore, and came up > with the following: > > Marriage record: > James McGrigor in this parish and Isabell Allan that of Perth, three weeks > of banns marked on June 21st 1807, marriage marked on June 25th 1807. > > one child is registered in Tibbermore, presumably they moved after this point: > 31st March 1808 - James McGrigor, smith of Huntingtowerfield, and his > spouse Isabel Allan, had a son born in Christ and baptised this date, > called John > > There is no mention in the register of the family being Dissenters at this > point, but from a look at the other McGregor/McGriegor names in the OPR, he > could well have links to Dissenting families. > > The following details are the offspring of the only McGriegor couple > mentioned in Tibbermore until James and his wife: > 19th Sept 1779 - Duncan McGriegor and his spouse Jean Livingstone had a > child baptised called Margaret > 2nd Dec 1781 - Duncan McGrigor in Burngrange and his spouse Jean Livistone > had a child baptised called John > 15th Feb 1784 - Duncan McGriegor in Tofthouses and his spouse Jean > Livingstone had a child baptised called Alexander > 25th Apr 1786 - Duncan McGriegor in Burngrange and his spouse Jean > Levistone had a child baptised called Elizabeth > 28th Dec 1788 - Duncan McGriegor in Tofthouses and his spouse Jean > Livingstone had a daughter baptised called Ann > > I didn't find an entry for the birth of James McGregor himself, but it > would seem a fairly good bet that these are his parents and siblings. > > Another possible link is the presence of an Elizabeth Livingstone, possibly > a sister of the aforementioned Jean, married to an David Buchan of > Gloagburn. Four of their children are mentioned in the register, all of > whom were baptised by seceded ministers: > Isobell - registered by parents request 3rd Mar 1771 > Margaret - registered by parents request 19th Oct 1772 (both baptised by > Rev John Wilson, seceding minister at Methven) > Elizabeth - registered 24th Feb 1777 (baptised by Rev Brown, seceding > minister in Abernethy) > James - registered 10th Aug 1780 (baptised by Rev John Wilson, seceding > minister at Methven) > > There are three other, later mentions of the name McGrigor: > 4th Nov 1809 - John McGrigor and spouse [Kathryn?] Clark had son born > called John [note in margin - "anabaptist"] > 9th Sep 1810 - Duncan McGrigor at Ruthvenfiled and his spouse Margaret > McIntyre had a son born in Christ and baptised this date named David > 20th Aug 1812 - John McGrigor of Ruthvenfield and his spouse Charlotte > Brown had a child born in Christ and baptised this date called Robert Low > > I hope this is of some use to you, and I'll keep an eye out for any other > likely looking links. > > Regards, > Debbie Murray

I just wanted to a public thank you to Andy, who answered my posting on Stewarts in Luncarty - he made some suggestions and put me in touch with an old friend, David, who turns out to be one of the Stewarts I have been hoping to connect with. It turns out that David knows more about the family connections than we realised. I know Andy enjoyed helping me out, I enjoyed "meeting" him, and hope I can return the favour some day. Diane Cole Sydney Australia.

G'day folks I am looking to see if anyone on the list may help me with information, on the birth and parents and siblings of Catharine FERGUSON who married John STEWART , 1 Aug 1780 in Callander thanks in advance regards Malcolm

Hi all Here are the details I have for my Robertsons in Perthshire.... James Robertson, weaver, baptised in Perth 10 June 1810, married Agnes Stark on 5 March 1841 at Renfield Church, Barony Glasgow, died in Tibbermore Poorhouse 30 March 1882 after ten months paralysis. Son Robert reported death - he was living in Baker Street, Stirling. Agnes Robertson, my great great grandmother, was born to John Stark and Janet Smith in Cadder LKS and died on 11/08/1863 at 212 South Street, Perth of general debility. The couple were both weavers and had three children: John born 8 March 1845 in South Street, Perth Robert born 19 February 1847 at Shuttlefield Close (weaving area) Agnes born 24 December 1849 at Canal Street James' parents were James Robertson (gardener) and Margaret McKenzie who married in 1806. Four children: Elisabeth b. 1806, James b. 1810, William b. 1813, Robert b. 1815 - based on census information. Robert married Isabella Small in 1879 and in 1881 census they're in Stirling with 6 month old son Robert. Looking forward to anyone who can connect with this family and/or me. rgds Caroline This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates.

Hello, I am posting surname interests after a 2 year absence from list. If any of these names seem familiar please contact me. Thanks. All the following are from Errol Perthshire. 1. -Robert BRUCE spouse unknown 2. Isobel BRUCE, b.1740 2. Elspeth BRUCE b. 1747 2. William BRUCE b. 1749 2.- Helen BRUCE b. 1743 , m. Dvaid GIBB b. abt 1740, married 1762 3. Margaret GIBB b. 1763 3. Jean GIBB b. 1765 3. Agnes GIBB b. 1772 3. -James GIBB b. 1767, d. aft 1841, m. Janet WALKER 1791. Janet d. aft 1841 4. David GIBB b. 1793 4. Robert GIBB b. 1795 4. -Janet GIBB b. 1797 m John EWAN b. 1802, married in 1822 4. Betty GIBB b. 1801 4. Margaret GIBB. b. abt 1805 4. Alexander GIBB b. 1812 4. Elizabeth GIBB b. 1813 Thanks for having a look. -- Heather Canevaro http://skfamilyhistory.esmartbiz.com/index.htm http://www.geocities.com/heather51us/index.html?1012584828630 (Still building)

I know that I have been here before, but could somebody please look for me th parents of-- Donald Camron (Cameron etc)B 1725 Dunning m Helen Miller b 22/7/1750 Auchterarder (also her parents)b 1729about. Children:- Mary b 1750 John b 1751 Dunning Helen b 1762 Auchterarder Elizabeth 11.6.1759 Auchterarder, and maybe more. Help would be most appreciated. Jim --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 8/10/2004

Dear Steve That'll be Dunbarney with an 'n' to give it its more usual modern name. Centred on Bridge of Earn, a few miles south of Perth. Googling for Dunbarney will give you something, and of course the Statistical Accounts are always worth a read: http://edina.ac.uk/statacc/ where, going to the Parish list, you will find it under the name Dunbarny (no 'e' this time). If you don't know the Statistical Accounts, go there now! They are a wonderful read for family historians. There is a very fine 128 page book by JW and RE Seath published by Perth and Kinross District Libraries in 1991, which I bought there not long back for a mere £1.95, entitled: 'Dunbarney. A Parish with a Past'. The P&K Library bookshop is bursting with juicy books and pamphlets for anyone interested in Perthshire history: http://www.pkc.gov.uk/library/publications.htm all the best Gavin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Marshall" <smarshall2071@rogers.com> To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:24 AM Subject: [PERTH] SIMPSON - Kinmonth, Dumbarney Parish, pre 1785 > Looking for information on David SIMPSON, cooper "of Kinmonth in the Parish of Dumbarney" who was alive in 1785 when his daughter, Mary SIMPSON married John TAYLOR in Perth. > > I am unfamiliar with this parish - what sources would be available? Is there a website that I can visit to find this out? Any leads appreciated. > > Thanks. > > > Steve Marshall > Ontario, Canada > > Ontario Birth Registrations - full transcriptions > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~births/index.htm > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.778 / Virus Database: 525 - Release Date: 15/10/04 > > > ==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== > -------------------------------------------------- > Remember to change the subject line to reflect > YOUR message to the list. > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html > -------------------------------------------------- >

Mention of the Dissenters leads me to wonder who they were. Several of my ancestors seem to have been married or baptised in the Dissenting Congregation in Perth. Does anyone have further information on this subject? Sheila in Missouri

Dear Debbie I'd be interested if you come across James Robertson, my great great grandfather. He was a weaver in Perth, worked in Bridgeton Glasgow for a time before returning home with his wife Agnes Stark (from Cadder, LKS), and young children eg. Robert. Someone inTay Valley FHS discovered for me that he died in Tibbermore Poorhouse, but I don't know how long he lived there. Any info on this institution and it's location would be very welcome. Thanks Caroline Campbell Yeo >> RESEARCHING: >> >> DEWAR, CAMPBELL, ROBERTSON, STARK, THOM(P)SON, Lanarkshire >> HENDERSON, THOM(P)SON, Stirlingshire >> CAMPBELL, ROBERTSON, STARK, CROMPTON/KENNEDY, Perthshire >> MCFARLANE, Argyll >> CAVET(T) Dumfriesshire >> CROMPTON, Perthshire & Yorkshire (Army?) >> PURVER, Hants & Middx; ORCHARD (ORCHID?), Hants & East Sussex >> KELLY, St Pancras, Kilburn & Ireland (?); RODBER, Middlesex, Worcester & Taunton This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates.

Hello, I am a second time subscriber to the list, hoping to find new info on my EWAN family. Here is what I have 1. -John EWAN m. Ann JACK, no dates or place ( from sons death cert.) 2. -John EWAN b. 1802, Perthshire, Died 1856 in Lochee Dundee. Only known son. Janet GIBB b. 1797 Errol , m. 1822, Errol d. abt 1835-36 Elizabeth GREIG, b. Cupar, Fife, second wife, no children. 3.Betty EWAN b. 1822, Errol Ann EWAN b, 1827, Fowlis Easter Elizabeth EWAN b. 1828 Fowlis Easter James EWAN, b.1834, Lunde & Fowlis Alexander EWAN, b. 1835, Lundie & Fowlis -John EWAN, b 1832, Fowlis Easter, d. 1870 Dundee, m . 1851 Margaret CHRISTIE 4. William EWAN b., 1851 Murroes,Angus, d. 1877, Perth m. Agnes GALL 1876 Perth. Son William b1877 Betsy EWAN b. 1853. Mains Angus Isabella EWAN, b. 1860, Mains & Strath. m. Joseph CAMERON, Perth. Joseph, d. 1887 Son William Cameron B. 1884 abt Daug. Margaret Cameron, b. 1886 - John EWAN b. 1863 Dundee d. 1897 Canada, m Margaret REDPATH 1893 Jean EWANb, 1865 Mains & Strath Mary Jane EWAN b. 1867 Dundee Margaret EWAN b. 1869 Dundee If any of these folks look familiar, I would love to hear from you. Thanks. Heather Canevaro http://skfamilyhistory.esmartbiz.com/index.htm http://www.geocities.com/heather51us/index.html?1012584828630 (Still building)

Hello list, I'm conducting research into the parish of Tibbermore, and especially the Ruthvenfield/Huntingtower area. As such I will be making frequent use of census/OPR etc info for the area. If anyone has anything they would like me to check for them in the course of this, feel free to get in touch, and I will do my best to help. I have no family links in Tibbermore myself, my interest in based on the fact that I live there. Regards, Debbie Murray soutar@tiscali.co.uk Research Interests: TOUGH (Glasgow, Aberdeen), FLANIGAN (Glasgow, Lanarkshire), ELLIOT (Lanarkshire), CAMPBELL (Glasgow, Lanarkshire), LITTLE (Fife, Renfrewshire), McKENNA (Fife, Glasgow), DICKSON (Lanarkshire), MECKAM (Lanarkshire), COWAN (Renfrewshire), SMITH (Haddington, Aberdeen), MURRAY (Aberdeenshire, Kincardineshire), EWEN (Aberdeenshire, Kincardineshire), KEITH (Kincardineshire, Aberdeenshire), THAIN (Aberdeenshire), HERON (Ayrshire, Aberdeenshire), POLLOCK (Aberdeenshire), YOULE (Aberdeenshire), GILLIE/GILLIES (Haddington)

Looking for information on David SIMPSON, cooper "of Kinmonth in the Parish of Dumbarney" who was alive in 1785 when his daughter, Mary SIMPSON married John TAYLOR in Perth. I am unfamiliar with this parish - what sources would be available? Is there a website that I can visit to find this out? Any leads appreciated. Thanks. Steve Marshall Ontario, Canada Ontario Birth Registrations - full transcriptions http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~births/index.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.778 / Virus Database: 525 - Release Date: 15/10/04