Hi Chris William Henderson should be listed in the Medical Register, Medical Directory and Medical Directory for Scotland of the day, and they should all identfy the body that granted his degree or licence. I don't know when the British Medical Journal began publishing obituaries of doctors, but that too is a possibility. You don't say how old WH was at his death. Edinburgh University (for instance) lists three possible William Hendersons among its medical graduates: they graduated in 1813, 1822 and 1831 respectively, but your man might have graduated at Glasgow, or Aberdeen, or St Andrews, or south of the Border, or in Dublin, or have trained at one of the Royal Colleges and bypassed the universities altogether. Hope this helps. Peter Peter B Freshwater MA MCLIP FSAScot Edinburgh, Scotland Email peter@hillfoot.demon.co.uk Researching ATKINS, BRUCE, FOX, FRESHWATER, PERKINS, SWINGLER (Beds, Hunts, Leics, & Northants,) HAUGHAN (Cumbria & Co. Durham) DOW, FINDLAY, GRAY, HUNTER, KENNEDY (Angus, Glasgow & Perth) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Paton" <chrispaton@btinternet.com> To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 4:19 PM Subject: [PERTH] Dr William Henderson of Perth, died 1870 > Hi there, > > I've just obtained a copy of the will of my great great great great great uncle, Dr William Henderson of Perth, who died at his home of Rose Terrace in 1870. He originally came from Kinclaven, and in his will, left a beneficiary fund for poor gentleman over the age of 60 residing in Perth, called Henderson's Mortification, which still exists to this day. The will is an amazing document, and is so detailed that it has confirmed my ancestry a further two generations back, to the mid 1700s. > > I am keen to find out more about Dr Henderson, and was wondering if anybody out there had relatives who had had dealings with him? I've come across one story on the internet which states that he performed a caesarian on a 30 year old lady in Perth in 1820, one of the first times the procedure had been performed in Scotland by a professional doctor. Unfortunately the lady giving birth did not survive, but the daughter did, and was christened Caesar Anna! > > Also, how would I go about finding where Henderson would have trained up to become a physician? I am intending to checjk for an obituary on him in the Perth papers at the AK Bell in Perth in the next few days, but what other resources would be worth checking? > > Many thanks in anticipation, > > Chris Paton > > > ==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== > -------------------------------------------------- > Archiver search http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/perthshire/ > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html > ------------------------------------- >

Hi again, I am also keen to find out about the Reverend Andrew Anderson of the United Free Presbyterian Church in Perth, in the mid to late 19th Century. Has anyone come cross this individual in their research, and where would I find out more about him? Thanks again, Chris Paton

Hi there, I've just obtained a copy of the will of my great great great great great uncle, Dr William Henderson of Perth, who died at his home of Rose Terrace in 1870. He originally came from Kinclaven, and in his will, left a beneficiary fund for poor gentleman over the age of 60 residing in Perth, called Henderson's Mortification, which still exists to this day. The will is an amazing document, and is so detailed that it has confirmed my ancestry a further two generations back, to the mid 1700s. I am keen to find out more about Dr Henderson, and was wondering if anybody out there had relatives who had had dealings with him? I've come across one story on the internet which states that he performed a caesarian on a 30 year old lady in Perth in 1820, one of the first times the procedure had been performed in Scotland by a professional doctor. Unfortunately the lady giving birth did not survive, but the daughter did, and was christened Caesar Anna! Also, how would I go about finding where Henderson would have trained up to become a physician? I am intending to checjk for an obituary on him in the Perth papers at the AK Bell in Perth in the next few days, but what other resources would be worth checking? Many thanks in anticipation, Chris Paton

Dear Perth Listers, I would like to obtain information about the GRAHAM family which departed Pershshire for Banbride in County Down, Ireland, in the mid to late 1700s (see below). I would also appreciate information about sources of information on parish, probate and other records of birth, death, marriage, wills, landholding, etc. available for Perthshire. Thank you for your attention. Roy Keys Montreal |-2. William GRAHAM (b.Abt 1749-Perthshire,Scotland d.Banbridge,County Down,Ireland) | sp: Jane WALLACE (b.Abt 1753-Perthshire,Scotland d.Banbridge,County Down,Ireland) | |-3. John GRAHAM (a.30 Dec 1781-Presbyterian Church,Banbridge,County Down,Ireland d.7 Mar 1853-Thurlow Twp,Hasting's Co,Ont,Canada) | |-3. Thomas GRAHAM (b.2 Mar 1790-Banbridge,County Down,Ireland) | +-3. Robert GRAHAM (b.26 Jul 1792-Banbridge,County Down,Ireland) |-2. Philip GRAHAM (b.Perthshire,Scotland) +-2. Robert GRAHAM (b.Perthshire,Scotland)

My gr-gr-gr grandmother's name was Murray McIntyre (b Kilmadock) which seems rather unusual to me. Does anyone know if Murray would be pronounced differently from the male first name or the surname. Does anyone else have a female Murray in their tree? A grand-daughter in Ontario was also called Murray. Daryl

Dear Gavin, I very much appreciate all the information you have forwarded to me It is going to take me time to 'git mae heid roond it' but boy it does give me a way forward or is that backwards. What I need to find is my William's father George Grahame living somewhere in the Parish of Auchtergaven. I have a very stubborn streak, and if I take after my grgrgrgrandfather then he would have definitely gone, when he was old enough, to seek out his biological father. I have always felt that his father brought his illegitimate family from outside the East Lothian area to have them christened. What time frame is your James Graham that had an adulterous affair? My George has died by 1845 according to the marriage of his ill daughter... daughter of the Late George Graham I will mull over all the other information you kindly sent me off line I really need to look at the marriage cert for William Graham and Elizabeth Robertson in Auchtergaven 1843. from family oral history a lot is making sense since I read your information Sheena PS I too was born many moons ago in Edinburgh, married and live in Broughty Ferry.

Hello, Having tracked most of my Maconochie lines, I am now really stuck on just one: Edward Maconochie - born 10 June 1845 at Rhynd, Perthshire, youngest child of James Maconochie and Bethia Gowans Edward married Jean McLean on 23 June 1865 in Dundee and they had 2 children in Dundee: Edward McLean Maconochie (16 June 1865-1867) and Peter McLean Maconochie (born 14 April 1867). This is the last I can find about the family - they don't appear in the 1880/1881 census for anywhere in the UK, Canada or the US (that I can find!) Does this ring a bell with anyone? Ursula researching: Gowans, Maxton, Maconochie, Imrie, Dakers, Ireland, Clark/Nicol --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

On Thu, 2004-12-09 at 13:27, Sheena wrote: > (SNIP) ... Auchtergaven a place I cannot find on my map. (SNIP) http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/PER/Auchtergaven/ "AUCHTERGAVEN, - vulgarly OCHTERGAVEN, - village and parish in Strathtay district, Perthshire. The village stands about 3 miles north-west of Stanley railway station, and about 9 north-north-west of Perth, and is a straggling place. The parish contains also the post office village of Bankfoot, the villages of Cairneyhill and Waterloo, and most of the post office village of Stanley. Its length is 10 miles; its mean breadth is 3 miles; and its area i2 12,941 acres. Real property in 1880-81, £15,048. Pop. 2195. The surface rises from the Tay, up Strathardie, to the summit of a low range of the Grampians, and consists chiefly of swelling knolls and sloping ridges. The seats are Stanley House, Airleywight, and Tullybelton. The poet Nicol was a native, and sang the beauties of the landscape in his 'Bonnie Ordie Braes.' The churches are the parochial, with nearly 1200 sittings, 2 Free, and a United Presbyterian. There are 2 public schools for 5050 scholars, and one of them and an enlargement for 450 are new." Wilson, Rev. John, The Gazetteer of Scotland, 1882. (Stanley has always been of interest as there is no explanation why great-grandfather Alexander would depart from family naming and name my grandfather "Stanley". No associations with other families have been discovered either, unless the Laing or Kerr. So, knowing well where Stanley and Moneydie are located, Auchtergaven is easy. A9 north out of Perth, before you get to Little Dunkeld). So much on the 'net that I will have fun learning all I can via "Google"! - L.D.R.

Many thanks to Kathleen, Mary and Tony. especially, as I should admit I live in Broughty Ferry my husband and friends all went to school at Glenalmond we all knew we knew Auchtergaven not one of us could place the place. We all plead the age thing, being in our 70's a useful excuse at times. It was so sad to read of the devastating fire in the church at Bankfoot. We intend to visit there this weekend aches and groans permitting Sheena nee Grahame

Good Evening, having spent at least two years trying to find the father of William Grahame in the East Lothian area, I have a glimmer of a clue. he married a Elisabeth Robertson. The only marriage I can find for this time frame is 1843 in Auchtergaven a place I cannot find on my map. However, I am not certain that this is 'my' William as he returns to Melrose where their daughter Janet Graham is born 1847. Why would someone, not born in East Lothian just christened in Ormiston 1833 in adultery so says the cert! go to Auchtergaven. he is on the Haddington 1841 census still with his mother no father recorded thanks, Sheena nee Grahame

Forgive me if I have already put these on. 1.Perth June 7th. One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty Contracted. William Dow and Elisabeth McAsh both in this parish Elder Patrick Dykes or Duke 2.Perth June 8th One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty Contracted John Constable and Ann Prain both in this parish Elder Robert Pleairns sp. (This is my sixth great grandparents) 3. Perth June 8th One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty Contracted William Davidson in the parish of Strathmigle and Elspeth Mather in this parish. Elder John Johnston 4. Perth June 19th. One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty Contracted. James Finter Soldier in Collonels James Regiment and Ann Galloway in this parish. Loues Proudfoott Elder 5. Perth June 27th One thousand Seven hundred Sixty Contracted Alexander Davidson and Jannet Peddie both in this parish, Elder Patrick Feroch 6. Perth June 27th One thousand Seven hundred Sixty Contracted John Scott in the parish of Forfwoit sp. and Catherine Robertson in this parish Elder Loues Proudfoott 7. Perth June 14th One thousand Seven hundred Sixty Contracted William Anderson Soldier and Mary Pailing both in this parish Elder Mr. Black 8. Perth June 14th One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty Contracted George Dowie sp. in this parish and Helen Sin in the parish of Tippermuire, Elder John Johnstone Sorry on the spellings. Kaye

Year 1765 Probably St.John's Church. 1. Perth February 1st. One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty five Was Born Gar??elp McAsh Lawfully Procreated Betwixt William McAsh. Taylor and Janet Makie his Spouse and Baptized February 5th by Mr. James Scott, Minister 2. Perth February 19th One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty five Was Born Margaret ????? Lawfully Procreated Betwixt James ????, ????? and Elizabeth Neil his Spouse and Baptized February 21st. by David Black, Minister 3. Perth March 9th. One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty five Was Born Margaret and Janet Constable Lawfully Procreated Betwixt John Constable, Weaver and Ann Prain his Spouse and Baptized March 10th by Mr. David Black, Minister (This is my family and sisters to my Helen Constable) 4. Perth March 18th One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty five Was Born Janet Jmrie Lawfully Procreated Betwixt Stuart Jmrie Flesher and Ann Muni? his Spouse and Baptized 21st March by Mr. James Scott Minister 5. Perth March 10th One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty Five Was Born Ann Bisset Lawfully Procreated Betwixt Thomas Bisset, flesher and Janet White his Spouse and Baptized 18th March by Mr. David Black Minister 6. Perth March 28 One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty Five Was Born Janet Henderson Lawfully procreated Betwixt Thomas Henderson, Taylor and Isobel Dunn his spouse and Baptized 31st March by Mr. James Scott Minister 7. Perth March 20th One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty Five Was Born Janet Bruce Lawfully Procreated betwixt William Bruce,Traner? and Margaret Comnon? His Spouse and Baptized 28th of March By James Scott Minister I am sorry that some are unclear but maybe someone will get enough to get an answer or be able to go to the records then and look. Kaye

1.Perth October 1st. One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty eight Was Born Rebecca Constable Lawfully procreated betwixt John Constable and Ann Prain his Spouse and Baptized October 2, By Mr. James Scott minister of the Gospel at Perth 2. Perth October 7th. One thousand Sevenhundren and Sixty eight Was Born Peter Leuchers Lawfully procrated betwixt James Leuchers, Shoe Maker and Elizabeth Mcfarland his spouse and baptized 9th October by Mr. David Black, Minister 3. Perth October 18th. One thousand Seven hundren Sixty eight Was Born James Bald Lawfully procreated betwixt Alexander Bald Shoe Maker and Janet Tyrtw? His Spouse and baptized 26 November by Mr. Peter Meeik minister of the Gospel at Kinnoull 4. Perth October 12, One thousand Seven hundren and Sixty eight Was Born Mary Machie Lawfully Procreated betwixt David Machie WEaver and Mary Bruddie his Spouse and Baptised 16th.October by Mr. James Scott, Minister 5. Perth October 9th. One thousand Seven hundred Sixty eight Was Born John Fisher Lawfully procreated betwixt John Fisher Worker and Isobel ?onnie his spouse and Baptised 16th of October by Mr. James Scott Minister. 6. Perth October 9th. One thousand Seven hundren Sixty eight Was Born Elizabeth Can Lawfully procreated betwist David Can Mafson?and Helen Cummon his Spouse and Baptized October 16th by Mr. James Scott, Minister 7. Perth October 31, One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty eight Was Born Ann Mc farland Lawfully procreated betwixt Peter McFarland Mafson and Margaret McDonald his Spouse Baptized 10th of November by Mr. Alex Duff Minister at Tippermoor 8. Perth October 20th, One thousand Seven hundred and Sixty eight Was Born Catherine Wood Lawfully Procreated betwixed David Wood ? and Janet Purie? his Spouse and baptized October 23 by Mr. David Black, Minister. Rebecca Constable is the part of the family that I am interested in. She is the sister to my 4th. great grandparents. She would have been baptized at St. John's Perth where her father was a Deacon and her uncle an Elder

Hi, I am tracing my SLATER family of Caputh. I am having a bit of trouble tracing one of the family members. He is Poonamalee Rajahgopal SLATER. He was born in Sri Lanka but moved back to Perthshire with his family. His siblings(some who were also born in Sri Lanka) all have "normal" names.I would love to find out what happened to him. I do know what happened to his siblings.Help! Merry Christmas to all. Helen McNamara in sunny NZ

Year 1760 at St. John's Church in Perth. 1. Perth November 14, One thousand Seven hundred & Sixty Was Born Betty Richardson Lawfully Procreated betwixt James Richardson Merct & Ann Wilson his Spouse & Baptized November 14th. (the only thing I changes was the old f for and s) 2.Perth December 9thOne thousand Seven hundred & Sixty Was Born John Drone Lawfully procreated betwixt John Drone Wright & Mary Scobbie his Spouse & Baptized December 14th by Mr. John Bonart Minister. 3. Perth December 17th One thousand seven hundred & Sixty Was Born Patrick Lethim Lawfully procreated betwixt Robert Lethim & Margaret Scott his Spouse & Baptized December 21 by Mr. John Bonart Minister. Perth December 26th. One thousand Seven hundred & Sixty Was Born Rachel & Helen constables Lawfully procreated betwixt John Constable Weaver & Ann Prain his Spouse & Baptized 28th December by Mr. David Black Minister. (Helen is my 4th great grandmother). Perth December 3rd. One thousand Seven hundred & Sixty Was Born Elizabeth Menzies Lawfully Procreated Betwixt Daniel Menzies & Catherine Munno his Spouse & Baptized December 7th. by Mr. John Bonar Minister Perth December 15th.One thousand Seven hundred & Sixty Was Born Jannet Koumvey Lawfully procreated betwixt Patrick Comry Brener & Helen Mc ? His Spouse & Baptized December (and that is all I have) Hope this helps someone and if anyone connected to Rachel and Helen Constable would connect I would be grateful. Kaye

To all family history buffs everywhere I'd like to wish you all a lovely holiday with your families, near and far, and a prosperous and successful new year. Best wishes from a mild, grey England Caroline Campbell Yeo née Purver > > >> RESEARCHING (not all at the same time!:-) > >> DEWAR, CAMPBELL, ROBERTSON, STARK, THOM(P)SON, Lanarkshire HENDERSON, THOM(P)SON, Stirlingshire CAMPBELL, ROBERTSON, STARK, CROMPTON/KENNEDY, Perthshire MCFARLANE, CAMPBELL, MITCHELL, Argyll CAVET(T) Dumfriesshire, Glamorgan, Middlesex, Yorkshire CROMPTON (CRUMPTON, CRAMPTON), Perthshire & Yorks/Lancs(Army?) PURVER, Hants & Middx ORCHARD (ORCHID?), Hants & East Sussex KELLY, St Pancras, Kilburn & Ireland (?) RODBER, Middlesex, Worcester, Somerset This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase & Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates

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Hello Joyce, Further info. - as I find I will send on to you. Here is HELEN REID's Father DAVID below (b) abt. 1766. If you go into google - type in Kincardine On Forth then click on to the Kincardine Local History Society page - Tulliallan Old Kirkyard - Grave Ref: 390. Erected by THOMAS ANDERSON and HELEN REID in memory of Her Father DAVID REID who died 25th Aug. 1838 aged 72 years. The grave holds 3 Lairs / Plots. Kind Regards Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret ODonnell" <MargaretVB@modonnell62.fsnet.co.uk> To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [PERTH] Lyon and Anderson Family Surnames > Hello Joyce, > This is what you are looking for - > > ROBERT LYON (m) ISABELLA ANDERSON > 6th Sep. 1867 in Saline Fife. > found children - on IGI. > WILLIAM (b) 3rd Sep. 1868 Dollar Clackmannanshire. > HELEN REID (b) 7th Oct. 1870. Dollar Clacks. > THOMAS ANDERSON (b) 16th Feb. 1873. Dollar Clacks. > > *ISABELLA ANDERSON ( b) 12th Nov. 1846. Tulliallan Perthshire. > (ch) 22nd Nov. 1846. Tulliallan. > Father - THOMAS ANDERSON > Mother - HELEN REID. > (m) 25th May 1832 Saline Fife. > known children - from IGI. > WILLIAM (ch) 9th Dec. 1832. Saline. Fife. > DAVID (ch) 1st June 1834. Saline. > MARY (ch) 9th Aug. 1835. Saline. > ELIZABETH (ch) 4th Dec. 1836. Saline. > HELEN (b) 18th Oct. 1838. Tulliallan. Perthshire ( now FIFE) > JANET (b) 6th Aug. 1840. Tuliallan. > MARJORY (b) 25th June 1842. Tulliallan. > ANN (b) 23rd July 1844. Tulliallan. > *ISABELLA (b) 22nd Nov. 1846. Tulliallan. > > Kind Regards > Margaret > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "joyce baber" <joyce.baberj@clear.net.nz> > To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:44 AM > Subject: [PERTH] Lyon and Anderson Family Surnames > > > > Hello > > I have just subscribe to the list as I am interested in LYON and > ANDERSON > > surnames . I have found on the 1881 English census that the family I am > > interested in is on the census for Dollar Clackmannanshire. I noticed > > the parents were born in Kincardine Perth I am wondering whether there > > were any other families of the same name living in the same area about > > the 1800s. The family was Robert Lyon and Isabella Anderson I have been > > trying to find Isabella birth date to find if the parents I am > interested > > in are the ones I have been looking for since they left Saline. Hoping > > someone will be able to help me Thank you Joyce Baber > > > > > > ==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > -------------------------------------------------- > > ENJOY the list. Ask questions and share information. > > If you have an issue, contact the list administrator, > > Pamela.Paddock.Arnold PERTHSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== > -------------------------------------------------- > Send all messages to PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > ONLY use the 'request' address to > subscribe or to unsubscribe from the list. > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html > -------------------------------------------------- >

Hello Joyce, This is what you are looking for - ROBERT LYON (m) ISABELLA ANDERSON 6th Sep. 1867 in Saline Fife. found children - on IGI. WILLIAM (b) 3rd Sep. 1868 Dollar Clackmannanshire. HELEN REID (b) 7th Oct. 1870. Dollar Clacks. THOMAS ANDERSON (b) 16th Feb. 1873. Dollar Clacks. *ISABELLA ANDERSON ( b) 12th Nov. 1846. Tulliallan Perthshire. (ch) 22nd Nov. 1846. Tulliallan. Father - THOMAS ANDERSON Mother - HELEN REID. (m) 25th May 1832 Saline Fife. known children - from IGI. WILLIAM (ch) 9th Dec. 1832. Saline. Fife. DAVID (ch) 1st June 1834. Saline. MARY (ch) 9th Aug. 1835. Saline. ELIZABETH (ch) 4th Dec. 1836. Saline. HELEN (b) 18th Oct. 1838. Tulliallan. Perthshire ( now FIFE) JANET (b) 6th Aug. 1840. Tuliallan. MARJORY (b) 25th June 1842. Tulliallan. ANN (b) 23rd July 1844. Tulliallan. *ISABELLA (b) 22nd Nov. 1846. Tulliallan. Kind Regards Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "joyce baber" <joyce.baberj@clear.net.nz> To: <PERTHSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 1:44 AM Subject: [PERTH] Lyon and Anderson Family Surnames > Hello > I have just subscribe to the list as I am interested in LYON and ANDERSON > surnames . I have found on the 1881 English census that the family I am > interested in is on the census for Dollar Clackmannanshire. I noticed > the parents were born in Kincardine Perth I am wondering whether there > were any other families of the same name living in the same area about > the 1800s. The family was Robert Lyon and Isabella Anderson I have been > trying to find Isabella birth date to find if the parents I am interested > in are the ones I have been looking for since they left Saline. Hoping > someone will be able to help me Thank you Joyce Baber > > > ==== PERTHSHIRE Mailing List ==== > -------------------------------------------------- > ENJOY the list. Ask questions and share information. > If you have an issue, contact the list administrator, > Pamela.Paddock.Arnold PERTHSHIRE-admin@rootsweb.com > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/PERTHSHIRE.html > -------------------------------------------------- >

Dear Perth Listers, I would like to obtain information about the GRAHAM family which departed Pershshire for Banbride in County Down, Ireland, in the mid to late 1700s (see below). I would also appreciate information about sources of information on parish, probate and other records of birth, death, marriage, wills, landholding, etc. Thank you for your attention. Roy Keys Montreal |-2. William GRAHAM (b.Abt 1749-Perthshire,Scotland d.Banbridge,County Down,Ireland) | sp: Jane WALLACE (b.Abt 1753-Perthshire,Scotland d.Banbridge,County Down,Ireland) | |-3. John GRAHAM (a.30 Dec 1781-Presbyterian Church,Banbridge,County Down,Ireland d.7 Mar 1853-Thurlow Twp,Hasting's Co,Ont,Canada) | |-3. Thomas GRAHAM (b.2 Mar 1790-Banbridge,County Down,Ireland) | +-3. Robert GRAHAM (b.26 Jul 1792-Banbridge,County Down,Ireland) |-2. Philip GRAHAM (b.Perthshire,Scotland) +-2. Robert GRAHAM (b.Perthshire,Scotland)