My name is Ray Coffman Perkins III, born in Charleston W. V.. My father's family is from Summersville, Nicolas County, W.V.. They have been there for at least six or seven generations, and before that Greenbrier County. There might be some help there. Regards, Ray III ----- Original Message ----- From: <kygs@aol.com> To: <PERKINS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [PERKINS] First Perkins to America > Dear Stephen, I looked at the first web you gave and found my John > Perkins of Louisa Co. VA (wife Mary Anthony) and do not understand all the > numbers. A friend (former Pres. of Nat. Gen. Soc. and good researcher) > also descends from John Perkins, swears he is from Nicholas Perkins. I > don't think so, but can't find anything on his father. I WOULD LOVE TO > CORRESPOND WITH OTHER DESCENDANTS OF JOHN PERKINS OF LOUISA CO. VA. I > come from his son, William. My Perkins stopped with my great grandmother > and I know no male cousins. > > I could not open the 2nd. Web you gave. > > Roberta Padgett, Frankfort, KY. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven C. Perkins <sperkins@interaccess.com> > To: PERKINS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:57:40 -0500 > Subject: Re: [PERKINS] First Perkins to America > > > I remind all Perkins researchers that are brick-walled to consider the > Perkins DNA project if they have a male Perkins who can be tested. > > There are 69 participants and some 22 results need to be added to the > chart at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~scperkins/PerkinsDNA.html > > You can see all results at > > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Parkins&2DPerkins/ > > Regards, > > Steven C. Perkins > > At 01:04 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote: >>Listers, >> >>We Perkins have to remember that due to the nature of the name...Son of >> >Peter...or little Son of Peter...it is quite likely that >>there are multiple originations as well as subsequent adoptions of the >> >surname. >> >>My searches have "petered" out in 1690 with David Perkins being mentioned >> >as a witness to a will. His grandson, David (rather >>active during the revolution), is allegedly the father of my 4th great >> >grandfather, Lemuel Perkins. >> >>The earliest Perkins record I have found is a ship manifest record of >> >Francis Perkins and son, Francis Perkins on the 1607 supply >>ship to Jamestown, but I do not believe any of that line lived, if the >> >record is even accurate. >> >>I have not found a link between my Perkins line and the Ipswitch line, >> >which supposedly dates to 1630. The Ipswitch Perkins' are >>fairly well documented. >> >>I did find another migration around 1634, but haven't found any details >> >concerning it. >> >>Anyway, no more intense than my search has been, I have uncovered three >> >different migrations of Perkins' and there are doubtless >>more. >> >>Perhaps the DNA project is the only sure way to nail it down. >> >>Stuart >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "John Ott" <johndott@ameritech.net> >>To: <PERKINS-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:46 PM >>Subject: [PERKINS] First Perkins to America >> >> >>| Reference the first of this recent series of postings: "There is some >> >confusion as to the first Perkins to arrive in America. >>Sources indicated that it may be Richard or Robert." The answer is >> >probably both, depending on where they settled. There were >>Perkins in New England at an early date. My son-in-law has several >> >connections to that family through his Lathrop/Lothrop line. They >>eventually migrated west through both Canada (the loyalists) and through >> >New York. These are not my people so I leave that family to >>others. >>| >>| To the south we have Richard Perkins (my ancestor) who first appears in >> >Baltimore (now Harford) County, Maryland in the 1680's. He >>was probably born between 1640 and 1660 in southwestern England. While >> >many postings show that he was born in Baltimore County, I >>have yet to see any citation of an original document to support this >> >claim. (There is also nothing to connect him to the New England >>Perkins.) Richard was probably transported sometime after 1685 when a >> >Richard Perkins was convicted along with a hundred or more >>others: >>| >>| "8 Jul 1685. The following convicted before Chief Justice Jefferies at >> >the Court of Oyer and Terminer for Dorset, Somerset and >>Devon for waging war against the King and sentenced to be transported to >> >the Americas [sentence enrolled on 4 Feb 1691]: ... Richard >>Perkins ... " (PRO: C66/3339/1 & SP (Domestic) James II Vol.1 No.159). >> >(Source: Peter Wilson Coldham, Complete Book of Immigrants >>1661-1699, Genealogical Publishing Co, 1990, Pg 525.) >>| >>| Richard married a woman named Mary at about this time. There is no known >> >record of her surname. There are again many postings that >>she was Mary Utie, daughter of George Utie and Susanna Gouldsmith and >> >niece of Nathaniel Utie, the first representative of the crown >>who was sent to the upper Chesapeake as a warden to control the illegal >> >fur trade. He settled Spesutia Island (now a part of the US >>Army Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland). This is absolutely incorrect >> >since Mary Utie was married to Anthony Drew from before 1688 >>until Anthony died in May 1720. They had at least nine children during >> >this period. This is well documented since her family was a >>significant presence in the area at the time. (One of her descendants did >> >eventually marry a Perkins descendant in, I believe, >>Tennessee. >>| >>| Richard and Mary had at least three sons Richard, William and Elisha, >> >and probably three daughters Mary, Sarah and Marsha. William >>(my ancestor) stayed in Baltimore County while Richard and his wife Mary >> >Sherrill, Elisha and his wife Margaret Sherrill, Mary and >>her companion John Hutchison, and the rest of the Sherrill clan migrated >> >south through Virginia to North Carolina where they settled >>on the Catawba River. At that time the Catawba was the western boundary of >> >European settlement. Richard and Mary had a son Richard >>born in North Carolina, who had a son Richard, etc. >>| >>| Another early Perkins was Robert who died in Charles County, Maryland >> >sometime after Aft. 30 Dec 1668. A number of postings claim >>Robert to be the father of Richard of Baltimore county. Their source >> >citation is Roberts will. I can only say that the will in not >>proof. I obtained a copy of Roberts will from the Maryland Archives and >> >there is no mention of any Perkins children. >>| >>| Will of Robert Perkins >>| In the name of God amen. The thirtieth day of December in the year of >> >our Lord one thousand six hundred and sixty eight. I Robert >>Perkins of ... in Charles County and Province of Maryland... being sick in >> >body but of good and perfect mind and memory thanks be >>to God and calling ... of this transitory life and .. must yield unto >> >death whom it shall please God to ... Make ... ordain and >>declare this my last Will & Testament in mannor and form of ... >>| and first being penitent and sorry from the bottom of my heart for my >> >sins ... most humbly ... for the ... I give and commit my >>soul unto almighty god my saviour and redeemer in whom and by the merritts >> >of of Jesus Christ I trust and believe .. to be saved and >>to have ... and forgive ... of all my sins and that my soul with my .. day >> >of ... again with joy and through the ... of Christ ... >>the Kingdom of Heaven prepared for his ... and my body to be ... such >> >place where it shall please my Executrix ... to appoint and >>... and such good ... and Debts as it shall please God ... above my ... to >> >enjoy the same forever... only such gifts and legacys as >>I shall ... in this my last will and testament. >>| ... unto Wm. ... Way ... wife I give and bequoath unto my wife's son >> >Patrick ... unto my loving wife Anne Perkins my sole >>executrix as above said to enjoy .. for ever. In witness where of I have >> >here unto putt my hand and seal this 30th of December >>1668. >>| x Robert Perkins his mark >>| Signed Sealed and Delivered in the presence of us, Baetha Coates, Thomas >> >Corker, clement Theobold >>| >>| I will be going back one of these days to see if I can finish the >> >transcription, but right now the original copy from the archives >>is packed away somewhere. >>| >>| So we probably have at least three unrelated Perkins to America prior to >> >1700. (While I say unrelated, I mean that there is no >>documented connection.) >>| >>| >>| >>| >>| >>| ==== PERKINS Mailing List ==== >>| Are your PERKINS out of Illinois, Maine, North Carolina or some other >> >neat place? Tell the Perkins List about it! There is >>Family behind every tree here! >>| Our Perkins List Home Page: >>| http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sonyapl/ >>| http://pages.prodigy.net/kathycorriher/EP/EP.htm >>| Have a Great Perkins Day >>| >>| >>| ============================== >>| New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> >ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and >>friends. Learn more: >> >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>| >>| >> >> >> >>==== PERKINS Mailing List ==== >>Don't forget to check out our Projects Page! Here you find projects going >> >on with Perkins List Members >>http://pages.prodigy.net/kathycorriher/EP/EP.htm >>A Place where a PERKINS connection might be behind the next e-mail >> >> >>============================== >>Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > ==== PERKINS Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to tell the Perkins List about your HOME PAGE! > A Connection might be made with the very next e-mail > Have a Great PERKINS Day! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ==== PERKINS Mailing List ==== > There is a Samuel Debate going on! > Read all about it and tell the list your ideas! > http://pages.prodigy.net/kathycorriher/EP/EP.htm > It's a Great Day to be a PERKINS > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >
Sorry: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Parkins%2DPerkins/ That should work. Steven C. Perkins At 05:06 PM 10/16/2005, you wrote: >My name is Ray Coffman Perkins III, born in Charleston W. V.. My father's >family is from Summersville, Nicolas County, W.V.. They have been there >for at least six or seven generations, and before that Greenbrier County. > >There might be some help there. > >Regards, >Ray III >----- Original Message ----- From: <kygs@aol.com> >To: <PERKINS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:15 PM >Subject: Re: [PERKINS] First Perkins to America > > >>Dear Stephen, I looked at the first web you gave and found my John >>Perkins of Louisa Co. VA (wife Mary Anthony) and do not understand all >>the numbers. A friend (former Pres. of Nat. Gen. Soc. and good >>researcher) also descends from John Perkins, swears he is from Nicholas >>Perkins. I don't think so, but can't find anything on his father. I >>WOULD LOVE TO CORRESPOND WITH OTHER DESCENDANTS OF JOHN PERKINS OF LOUISA >>CO. VA. I come from his son, William. My Perkins stopped with my great >>grandmother and I know no male cousins. >> >>I could not open the 2nd. Web you gave. >> >>Roberta Padgett, Frankfort, KY. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Steven C. Perkins <sperkins@interaccess.com> >>To: PERKINS-L@rootsweb.com >>Sent: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:57:40 -0500 >>Subject: Re: [PERKINS] First Perkins to America >> >> >>I remind all Perkins researchers that are brick-walled to consider the >>Perkins DNA project if they have a male Perkins who can be tested. >> >>There are 69 participants and some 22 results need to be added to the >>chart at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~scperkins/PerkinsDNA.html >> >>You can see all results at >> >>http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Parkins&2DPerkins/ >> >>Regards, >> >>Steven C. Perkins >> >>At 01:04 PM 10/10/2005, you wrote: >>>Listers, >>> >>>We Perkins have to remember that due to the nature of the name...Son >>>of >Peter...or little Son of Peter...it is quite likely that >>>there are multiple originations as well as subsequent adoptions of >>>the >surname. >>> >>>My searches have "petered" out in 1690 with David Perkins being >>>mentioned >as a witness to a will. His grandson, David (rather >>>active during the revolution), is allegedly the father of my 4th >>>great >grandfather, Lemuel Perkins. >>> >>>The earliest Perkins record I have found is a ship manifest record >>>of >Francis Perkins and son, Francis Perkins on the 1607 supply >>>ship to Jamestown, but I do not believe any of that line lived, if >>>the >record is even accurate. >>> >>>I have not found a link between my Perkins line and the Ipswitch >>>line, >which supposedly dates to 1630. The Ipswitch Perkins' are >>>fairly well documented. >>> >>>I did find another migration around 1634, but haven't found any >>>details >concerning it. >>> >>>Anyway, no more intense than my search has been, I have uncovered >>>three >different migrations of Perkins' and there are doubtless >>>more. >>> >>>Perhaps the DNA project is the only sure way to nail it down. >>> >>>Stuart >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ott" <johndott@ameritech.net> >>>To: <PERKINS-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:46 PM >>>Subject: [PERKINS] First Perkins to America >>> >>> >>>| Reference the first of this recent series of postings: "There is >>>some >confusion as to the first Perkins to arrive in America. >>>Sources indicated that it may be Richard or Robert." The answer >>>is >probably both, depending on where they settled. There were >>>Perkins in New England at an early date. My son-in-law has >>>several >connections to that family through his Lathrop/Lothrop line. They >>>eventually migrated west through both Canada (the loyalists) and >>>through >New York. These are not my people so I leave that family to >>>others. >>>| >>>| To the south we have Richard Perkins (my ancestor) who first appears >>>in >Baltimore (now Harford) County, Maryland in the 1680's. He >>>was probably born between 1640 and 1660 in southwestern England. >>>While >many postings show that he was born in Baltimore County, I >>>have yet to see any citation of an original document to support >>>this >claim. (There is also nothing to connect him to the New England >>>Perkins.) Richard was probably transported sometime after 1685 when >>>a >Richard Perkins was convicted along with a hundred or more >>>others: >>>| >>>| "8 Jul 1685. The following convicted before Chief Justice Jefferies >>>at >the Court of Oyer and Terminer for Dorset, Somerset and >>>Devon for waging war against the King and sentenced to be transported >>>to >the Americas [sentence enrolled on 4 Feb 1691]: ... Richard >>>Perkins ... " (PRO: C66/3339/1 & SP (Domestic) James II Vol.1 >>>No.159). >(Source: Peter Wilson Coldham, Complete Book of Immigrants >>>1661-1699, Genealogical Publishing Co, 1990, Pg 525.) >>>| >>>| Richard married a woman named Mary at about this time. There is no >>>known >record of her surname. There are again many postings that >>>she was Mary Utie, daughter of George Utie and Susanna Gouldsmith >>>and >niece of Nathaniel Utie, the first representative of the crown >>>who was sent to the upper Chesapeake as a warden to control the >>>illegal >fur trade. He settled Spesutia Island (now a part of the US >>>Army Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland). This is absolutely >>>incorrect >since Mary Utie was married to Anthony Drew from before 1688 >>>until Anthony died in May 1720. They had at least nine children >>>during >this period. This is well documented since her family was a >>>significant presence in the area at the time. (One of her descendants >>>did >eventually marry a Perkins descendant in, I believe, >>>Tennessee. >>>| >>>| Richard and Mary had at least three sons Richard, William and >>>Elisha, >and probably three daughters Mary, Sarah and Marsha. William >>>(my ancestor) stayed in Baltimore County while Richard and his wife >>>Mary >Sherrill, Elisha and his wife Margaret Sherrill, Mary and >>>her companion John Hutchison, and the rest of the Sherrill clan >>>migrated >south through Virginia to North Carolina where they settled >>>on the Catawba River. At that time the Catawba was the western boundary >>>of >European settlement. Richard and Mary had a son Richard >>>born in North Carolina, who had a son Richard, etc. >>>| >>>| Another early Perkins was Robert who died in Charles County, >>>Maryland >sometime after Aft. 30 Dec 1668. A number of postings claim >>>Robert to be the father of Richard of Baltimore county. Their >>>source >citation is Roberts will. I can only say that the will in not >>>proof. I obtained a copy of Roberts will from the Maryland Archives >>>and >there is no mention of any Perkins children. >>>| >>>| Will of Robert Perkins >>>| In the name of God amen. The thirtieth day of December in the year >>>of >our Lord one thousand six hundred and sixty eight. I Robert >>>Perkins of ... in Charles County and Province of Maryland... being sick >>>in >body but of good and perfect mind and memory thanks be >>>to God and calling ... of this transitory life and .. must yield >>>unto >death whom it shall please God to ... Make ... ordain and >>>declare this my last Will & Testament in mannor and form of ... >>>| and first being penitent and sorry from the bottom of my heart for >>>my >sins ... most humbly ... for the ... I give and commit my >>>soul unto almighty god my saviour and redeemer in whom and by the >>>merritts >of of Jesus Christ I trust and believe .. to be saved and >>>to have ... and forgive ... of all my sins and that my soul with my .. >>>day >of ... again with joy and through the ... of Christ ... >>>the Kingdom of Heaven prepared for his ... and my body to be ... >>>such >place where it shall please my Executrix ... to appoint and >>>... and such good ... and Debts as it shall please God ... above my ... >>>to >enjoy the same forever... only such gifts and legacys as >>>I shall ... in this my last will and testament. >>>| ... unto Wm. ... Way ... wife I give and bequoath unto my wife's >>>son >Patrick ... unto my loving wife Anne Perkins my sole >>>executrix as above said to enjoy .. for ever. In witness where of I >>>have >here unto putt my hand and seal this 30th of December >>>1668. >>>| x Robert Perkins his mark >>>| Signed Sealed and Delivered in the presence of us, Baetha Coates, >>>Thomas >Corker, clement Theobold >>>| >>>| I will be going back one of these days to see if I can finish >>>the >transcription, but right now the original copy from the archives >>>is packed away somewhere. >>>| >>>| So we probably have at least three unrelated Perkins to America prior >>>to >1700. (While I say unrelated, I mean that there is no >>>documented connection.) >>>| >>>| >>>| >>>| >>>| >>>| ==== PERKINS Mailing List ==== >>>| Are your PERKINS out of Illinois, Maine, North Carolina or some >>>other >neat place? Tell the Perkins List about it! There is >>>Family behind every tree here! >>>| Our Perkins List Home Page: >>>| http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sonyapl/ >>>| http://pages.prodigy.net/kathycorriher/EP/EP.htm >>>| Have a Great Perkins Day >>>| >>>| >>>| ============================== >>>| New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for >>>your >ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and >>>friends. Learn >>>more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourcei >>>d=14599&targetid=5429 >>>| >>>| >>> >>> >>> >>>==== PERKINS Mailing List ==== >>>Don't forget to check out our Projects Page! Here you find projects >>>going >on with Perkins List Members >>>http://pages.prodigy.net/kathycorriher/EP/EP.htm >>>A Place where a PERKINS connection might be behind the next e-mail >>> >>> >>>============================== >>>Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>>ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >>>http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >>==== PERKINS Mailing List ==== >>Don't forget to tell the Perkins List about your HOME PAGE! >> A Connection might be made with the very next e-mail >>Have a Great PERKINS Day! >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> >>==== PERKINS Mailing List ==== >>There is a Samuel Debate going on! >> Read all about it and tell the list your ideas! >>http://pages.prodigy.net/kathycorriher/EP/EP.htm >>It's a Great Day to be a PERKINS >> >> >>============================== >>View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >>marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >==== PERKINS Mailing List ==== >Don't be a LOOKIE LOO! 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