I looked at FTM's CD #181, "English Origins of New England Families under the ancestors of William Perkins and from that it does not seem that Isaac was any relation. NEHGR v 10, July, 1856 p. 216 lists Isaac as "probably the brother of John and Abraham" This is hardly authoratative though. It doesn't list their father but says they were probably a cousin of the Rev. William Perkins, son of William Perkins of England. From all evidence that I can find right now I have to conclude that William was probably not the father of Isaac and Abraham. If you have anything else contradicting this I would appreciate your letting me know. P.S. Along with Nixon who was a descendant of Isaac Perkins through Rebecca=John Hussey, Roberts lists presidents Filmore, Coolidge, and F.D. Roosevelt as descendants of his supposed grandparents Thomas Perkins d. 1588-92 of Hillmorton, Warwickshire, England and his wife Alice (Kebble?) through Henry Perkins' son John of Ipswich. This eliminates the idea from v10 of NEHGS that John was the brother of Isaac and Abraham. Paul Redden redden@inna.net View my family history & antique photo page at: http://users.inna.net/~redden -----Original Message----- From: Paul Redden <redden@inna.net> To: ka7iog@worldnet.att.net <ka7iog@worldnet.att.net> Cc: Perkins-l@rootsweb.com <Perkins-l@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, October 30, 1997 7:00 PM Subject: is William Perkins father of Isaac bp. 1611/12 ??? Carla, Like you my notes have Rev. William Perkins as the father of Isaac Perkins bp 1611/12. I was just reading Gary Boyd Roberts 'Ancestors of American Presidents', 1995 which lists his father Isaac bp. 1571 d. ante 1639, of Ipswich, MA, son of Thomas Perkins and Alice (Kebble?) of hilmorton, Warwickshire, England. I have seen it both ways and was wondering if you or anybody else knew of any source material to help set the record straight. Paul Redden redden@inna.net View my family history & antique photo page at: http://users.inna.net/~redden