Barclay, I had some trouble in getting message through to you. I am going to send this to the list, also, in case if gets kick backed. On future e-mail to me, use ka7iog@worldnet.att.net I have been trying to straighten out my e-mail address and think I might have it fixed now. What was the question your family had for years? I received a lot of responses on the Perkins line and am slowly sift through it, so, may have more info for you later. Will keep your message and if I get something later will let you know. I would like to have more details on your line, as I am finding out, having sibling lines help an awful lot as sometimes the query only mentions sibling and you can not connect. Thank you. Carla.