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    1. Re: [PA] Flickinger
    2. D. Kohler
    3. Hi, Bev: The only Flickinger family shown in Heritage Quest's index for 1800 PA is that of Christopher Flickinger located in Conneaut Twp., Crawford Co. The household is shown as: Free White Males: 2 - 0 thru 9 years 3 - 10 thru 15 years 0 - 16 thru 25 years 1 - 26 thru 44 years 0 - 45 and over Free White Females: 2 - 0 thru 9 years 0 - 10 thru 15 years 0 - 16 thru 25 years 1 - 26 thru 44 years 0 - 45 and over Other free persons: 0 Slaves: 0 Good luck with your search! Debra On Thursday, Jul 29, 2004, at 13:06 US/Eastern, Tom & Bev Bennett wrote: > I am looking for information for John James Flickinger Sr. ( > Fleckenner,Fleckenger) b. 1802 in Conneaut Twp., Crawford Co, PA > between > 1810 and 1840. Where would the county seat be? Are there online > information > sites in PA I can use to search for him? He married Mary Bevelheimer > b. 1799 > in Lehigh , Northampton Co, PA. They married bef 1827 (no confirmation > yet) > . The many spellings of this name makes searching hard. I am not sure > of his > parentage. How do I proceed as I am looking from IL? Bev > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > No FLAMING allowed on this list! > We are a gentler kinder genealogy list. > Don't be afraid to ask questions. > There are no dumb questions on this list. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

    07/29/2004 09:24:23
    1. Re: [PA] Flickinger
    2. Linda Dougan
    3. Hi, I just happened to see your response to this email. Ive been trying to find records in Pa on my gggrandmother, Im sure you have heard thiss all be fore, but it stated "free White Females" were there other types of females? she died in 1884 at 30, no grave marker nofuneral records no death certificate, nothing, she died of TB, were there TB hospitals then, or a difference in barial procidures for the poor? maybe that free thing, is a clue. Linda lindadougan47@worldconnx.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "D. Kohler" <dkohlerx2@adelphia.net> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [PA] Flickinger > Hi, Bev: > > The only Flickinger family shown in Heritage Quest's index for 1800 PA > is that of Christopher Flickinger located in Conneaut Twp., Crawford > Co. The household is shown as: > > Free White Males: > 2 - 0 thru 9 years > 3 - 10 thru 15 years > 0 - 16 thru 25 years > 1 - 26 thru 44 years > 0 - 45 and over > > Free White Females: > 2 - 0 thru 9 years > 0 - 10 thru 15 years > 0 - 16 thru 25 years > 1 - 26 thru 44 years > 0 - 45 and over > > Other free persons: 0 > Slaves: 0 > > Good luck with your search! > > Debra > > > > > On Thursday, Jul 29, 2004, at 13:06 US/Eastern, Tom & Bev Bennett wrote: > > > I am looking for information for John James Flickinger Sr. ( > > Fleckenner,Fleckenger) b. 1802 in Conneaut Twp., Crawford Co, PA > > between > > 1810 and 1840. Where would the county seat be? Are there online > > information > > sites in PA I can use to search for him? He married Mary Bevelheimer > > b. 1799 > > in Lehigh , Northampton Co, PA. They married bef 1827 (no confirmation > > yet) > > . The many spellings of this name makes searching hard. I am not sure > > of his > > parentage. How do I proceed as I am looking from IL? Bev > > > > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > > No FLAMING allowed on this list! > > We are a gentler kinder genealogy list. > > Don't be afraid to ask questions. > > There are no dumb questions on this list. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

    07/29/2004 10:32:44
    1. Re: [PA] Flickinger
    2. D. Kohler
    3. Hi, Linda: The way I understand these census pages is that a person (male or female) who is free and not white would be noted under "other free persons" and a person (male or female) who is not free would be noted under "slaves." This information is from an 1800 census page. The issue of one being "free" or a slave was last noted in the 1840 census. If you'd like to provide your gggrandmother's name, birth year & place, death year & place, family names...I'm sure there are quite a number of people on this mailing list that would try to help you. I found this site: http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/tb/notes/TBN_1_00/TBN2000Ruggiero.htm that mentions: "The TB sanatorium movement, which was started in Germany by Dr. Hermann Brehmeris in the 1850s, did not take hold in the United States until after 1884. Edward Livingston Trudeau, a physician who recovered from TB disease, started a sanatorium in Saranac Lake, New York, based on the European model of strict supervision in providing fresh air and sunshine, bed rest, and nutritious foods." I hope this information is of some help. I hope you can provide more information so that the "list" can try to help. Debra On Thursday, Jul 29, 2004, at 19:32 US/Eastern, Linda Dougan wrote: > Hi, I just happened to see your response to this email. Ive been > trying to > find records in Pa on my gggrandmother, Im sure you have heard thiss > all be > fore, but it stated "free White Females" were there other types of > females? > she died in 1884 at 30, no grave marker nofuneral records no death > certificate, nothing, she died of TB, were there TB hospitals then, or > a > difference in barial procidures for the poor? maybe that free thing, > is a > clue. Linda lindadougan47@worldconnx.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D. Kohler" <dkohlerx2@adelphia.net> > To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: [PA] Flickinger > > >> Hi, Bev: >> >> The only Flickinger family shown in Heritage Quest's index for 1800 PA >> is that of Christopher Flickinger located in Conneaut Twp., Crawford >> Co. The household is shown as: >> >> Free White Males: >> 2 - 0 thru 9 years >> 3 - 10 thru 15 years >> 0 - 16 thru 25 years >> 1 - 26 thru 44 years >> 0 - 45 and over >> >> Free White Females: >> 2 - 0 thru 9 years >> 0 - 10 thru 15 years >> 0 - 16 thru 25 years >> 1 - 26 thru 44 years >> 0 - 45 and over >> >> Other free persons: 0 >> Slaves: 0 >> >> Good luck with your search! >> >> Debra >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, Jul 29, 2004, at 13:06 US/Eastern, Tom & Bev Bennett >> wrote: >> >>> I am looking for information for John James Flickinger Sr. ( >>> Fleckenner,Fleckenger) b. 1802 in Conneaut Twp., Crawford Co, PA >>> between >>> 1810 and 1840. Where would the county seat be? Are there online >>> information >>> sites in PA I can use to search for him? He married Mary Bevelheimer >>> b. 1799 >>> in Lehigh , Northampton Co, PA. They married bef 1827 (no >>> confirmation >>> yet) >>> . The many spellings of this name makes searching hard. I am not sure >>> of his >>> parentage. How do I proceed as I am looking from IL? Bev >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== >>> No FLAMING allowed on this list! >>> We are a gentler kinder genealogy list. >>> Don't be afraid to ask questions. >>> There are no dumb questions on this list. >>> >>> ============================== >>> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >>> >> >> >> ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== >> The OFFICIAL website for this list is: >> http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ >> >> ============================== >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > Help your fellow researcher out when you can... You may be surprised > by how they may help you. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

    07/29/2004 10:51:56
    1. Re: [PA] Flickinger
    2. Nelson Sulouff
    3. I take it your question about "types of females" is in reference to 19th C. census data. At that date, in addition to free white females, there were free black females and there were indentured black females. On account of an occasional white female who had been indentured for her passage from Europe, you may also come across early 19th Century census data showing indentured white females. I'm hoping that perhaps this information about Flickingers will be appropriate and helpful. There was a sizeable clan of Flickingers living in Juniata Co. in the 19th-20th Centuries, perhaps even earlier. There is a rather lengthy Flickinger Family History written about those Flickingers. I have used a copy of it in the Juniata Co. Historical Society Library, 498 Jefferson St., Suite B, Mifflintown PA 17059-1424, E-mail JunCoHis@tricountyi.net . I feel quite certain this Flickinger history was microfilmed and is held by the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City, and therefore it is therefore available on loan at any local LDS Family History Center. If there is an LDS Family History Center near you it will be listed in the phone book as Church Of Jesus Christ, Latter Day Saints. I Googled a search for "Flickinger Family History" and came up with this URL: http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=BookList&dbid=18253&ti=0&r=0 Google also turned up another URL: http://www.bookfinder.com/dir/i/Flickinger_Family_History/0740403761/ I do not know if either of these histories is the one I used in Juniata Co., but they both have the same title. Hope you find something useful from this. Nelson R. Sulouff //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Dougan" <lindadougan47@worldconnx.net> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [PA] Flickinger > Hi, I just happened to see your response to this email. Ive been trying to > find records in Pa on my gggrandmother, Im sure you have heard thiss all be > fore, but it stated "free White Females" were there other types of females? > she died in 1884 at 30, no grave marker nofuneral records no death > certificate, nothing, she died of TB, were there TB hospitals then, or a > difference in barial procidures for the poor? maybe that free thing, is a > clue. Linda lindadougan47@worldconnx.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D. Kohler" <dkohlerx2@adelphia.net> > To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: [PA] Flickinger > > > > Hi, Bev: > > > > The only Flickinger family shown in Heritage Quest's index for 1800 PA > > is that of Christopher Flickinger located in Conneaut Twp., Crawford > > Co. The household is shown as: > > > > Free White Males: > > 2 - 0 thru 9 years > > 3 - 10 thru 15 years > > 0 - 16 thru 25 years > > 1 - 26 thru 44 years > > 0 - 45 and over > > > > Free White Females: > > 2 - 0 thru 9 years > > 0 - 10 thru 15 years > > 0 - 16 thru 25 years > > 1 - 26 thru 44 years > > 0 - 45 and over > > > > Other free persons: 0 > > Slaves: 0 > > > > Good luck with your search! > > > > Debra > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, Jul 29, 2004, at 13:06 US/Eastern, Tom & Bev Bennett wrote: > > > > > I am looking for information for John James Flickinger Sr. ( > > > Fleckenner,Fleckenger) b. 1802 in Conneaut Twp., Crawford Co, PA > > > between > > > 1810 and 1840. Where would the county seat be? Are there online > > > information > > > sites in PA I can use to search for him? He married Mary Bevelheimer > > > b. 1799 > > > in Lehigh , Northampton Co, PA. They married bef 1827 (no confirmation > > > yet) > > > . The many spellings of this name makes searching hard. I am not sure > > > of his > > > parentage. How do I proceed as I am looking from IL? Bev

    07/29/2004 11:46:10