I have a 1776 UK marriage for a Johann (John ) ALTHOFF and Susannah HOFLER . I have extracted all ALTHOFF entries from the British GRO records 1837 to 1900 and have most familes sorted . But there are 5 children of David ALTHOFF and Ann M SLAGGLE born 1861 - 1871 listed on the UK IGI who do not appear on the GRO records . The entries show Hanover, Pennysylvania , Gloucester , England , anyone recognise this family ?? They seem to have been submitted by an LDS member . There are also earlier GRO records for ALTHOFF families in Durham England mid -late 1700's. I am hoping parents and sibblings of my Johann. I have one family who arrived at Ellis Is. 1893 but don't know where they dis appeared. Look forward to hearing from ALTHOFF researchers. other . Shirley BROWN Auckland New Zealand

Hi, Shirley: The 1870 census for Hanover, PA, has the following family: Series: M593  Roll: 1468  Page: 393 1870 - Hanover Boro., York Co., PA - 7/20/1870 Althoff, David G. - 34 - m - w - carriage maker - PA -------- Ann Maria - 30 - f - w - keeping house - PA -------- Eve Jane - 9 - f - w - PA -------- Charles - 8 - m - w - PA -------- Annie - 5 - f - w - PA -------- Alice - 3 - f - w - PA Household: 1880 (familysearch.org)  Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace  David ALTHOFF   Self   M   Male   W   43   PA   Carriage Maker   MD   PA   Annie ALTHOFF   Wife   M   Female   W   42   PA   Keeping House   PA   PA   Eda ALTHOFF   Dau   S   Female   W   19   PA   At Home   PA   PA   Charles ALTHOFF   Son   S   Male   W   17   PA   Carriage Painter   PA   PA   Annie ALTHOFF   Dau   S   Female   W   14   PA   At School   PA   PA   Alice ALTHOFF   Dau   S   Female   W   12   PA   At School   PA   PA   Robert ALTHOFF   Son   S   Male   W   9   PA      PA   PA  ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Source Information:   Census Place Hanover, York, Pennsylvania   Family History Library Film   1255206   NA Film Number   T9-1206   Page Number   60A      If you give me the names of the family that came through Ellis Island in 1893, I'll see if I can find them for you in the census material.  Hope there's something useful here. Debra On Saturday, Oct 2, 2004, at 20:40 US/Eastern, John Brown wrote: > I have a 1776 UK marriage for a Johann (John ) ALTHOFF and Susannah > HOFLER . I have extracted all ALTHOFF entries from the British GRO > records 1837 to 1900 and have most familes sorted . But there are 5 > children of David ALTHOFF and Ann M SLAGGLE born 1861 - 1871 listed on > the UK IGI who do not appear on the GRO records . The entries show > Hanover, Pennysylvania , Gloucester , England , anyone recognise this > family ?? They seem to have been submitted by an LDS member . There > are also earlier GRO records for ALTHOFF families in Durham England > mid -late 1700's. I am hoping parents and sibblings of my Johann. > > I have one family who arrived at Ellis Is. 1893 but don't know where > they dis appeared. > > Look forward to hearing from ALTHOFF researchers. > other . > > Shirley BROWN > Auckland > New Zealand > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > No FLAMING allowed on this list! > We are a gentler kinder genealogy list. > Don't be afraid to ask questions. > There are no dumb questions on this list. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Debra, Thank you so much for your reply , yes that is the family mentioned on the IGI . I am still none the wiser about this family but do now know that they did in fact go to the states . Why they are listed on the UK IGI is strange as is the mention ofGloucester , England. I see nothing showing as to where the family were born on the US1870 census. Thank you so much also for your offer of a look up for my ALTHOFF family. As we have just shifted house my records are in a bit of a muddle so will get back to you in a few days. I suspect a senior male member arrived in the States earlier than 1893 . I am the only person researching this family in the UK and have extracted all records from 1837 -1900 . The fact grgrandfather married 3 times caused me a lot of angst as 2 wives were Hannah's -:)) so many children died I am really surprised that any of the family survived at all. Kind regards Shirley BROWN NZ k