In a message dated 6/24/2004 7:39:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jan1940@wpa.net writes: Frederick J Koerner 1818, I think his is Oct 11 same as his wife Maria Rosa Hartman Koerner 10/11/1817 2/18/1866 Thanks the only one really close was in KY and married to an Elizabeth so guess that lets him out <G> Eliz