On 25 Jun 2004 at 19:42, KathNHNC71@aol.com wrote: > Evening, Olive. > I think you mean Lorine :-) > > I have ancestors from Germany who, according to family Bible > records, came to upstate NY via Montreal, Canada, from > Munich in 1870. We unfortunately have no other info. or > ship names. > > What would be their most likely itinerary? From which Ports > in Germany would they most likely have embarked upon their > trek? Would they have come directly from Germany or via > England or the Netherlands? That's pretty difficult to say. Unfortunately the records for ships passenger lists to Canada before 1925 are not indexed. To find a passenger you will need to know an exact date of arrival. There is no easy way to search Canadian arrival records for this unindexed period other than reading microfilm The National Archives of Canada (NAC) holds immigration records from 1865 to 1935. Ships are on the reel, in order of arrival. You can borrow this reel on Inter Library Loan [ILL]. These microfilms contain arrivals from all ports If you want to order filmed passenger lists (remember they aren't indexed!), a list of NAC microfilm numbers for passenger lists to Canada 1865-1922 can be found at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/filmnos_can1865.shtml If you want to try your luck searching transcribed ships passenger lists online, passenger lists for Ships to Canada after 1865 are freely available at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tocanp05.shtml You can also try TheShipsList.com at http://www.theshipslist.com/ They have been indexing arrivals from Newspapers and have many passenger lists online There are search engines to search online free databases on multiple websites for ships to Canada at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml Good luck! Lorine McGinnis Schulze Lorine McGinnis Schulze * Olive Tree Genealogy (Ships Passenger Lists) http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Naturalization Records http://naturalizationrecords.com/ * USA Genealogy http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/usa_genealogy/ otg@csolve.net or olivetreegen@netscape.net