In a message dated 6/24/2004 3:24:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jan1940@wpa.net writes: On the Carroll County Md.1900 census it states he came to US in 1851, How much can I trust this date? I found his intention and Naturalization papers in York county PA ( Int. )1861 (Natz)1863 I gives no other information I sent to Baltimore and Philadelphia for ships list, they He couldn't file intention until two or more year later so I am not feeling the trust <G> but he might show up in the 1850, should in fact I think most of us found this information by finding a library and ordering the information <G> Have you tried the Ships List? They are supposed to only do ships lookups but sometimes they will search the person so give it a try, at rootsweb as usual <G> Eliz