Debra, My paternal grandmother's maiden name, GEISE, is pronounced to rhyme with mice. The spelling used by immigrants Phillip Jacob GEISS and George Adam GEISS has been traced back to the Palatine city of Freisbach where refugees from France name GUISE had resettled. In Germany the spelling was changed from GUISE to GEIß. The baptismal records of John Caspar Stoever show that children of the immigrants born in Berks Co. were given the surname spelled GEIß. The anglicized transliteration for GEIß is GEISS. However those born into the next generation in Berks Co. and westward in Pennsylvania mostly used the spelling GEISE, and that spelling has continued to the present. In the case of all these spellings, the pronunciation has always rhymed with 'mice' rather than 'geese.' I have been researching my GEISE ancestry for a couple of decades and I inherited several generations of records kept by my grandmother's GEISE ancestors. In all the material I have, I have never seen any indication of relationship between my GEISE line and the surnames you mention, Geesey, Geiselman, Geisert, or Geisler. A RootsWeb ListServ for the GEISS>GEISE surname was initiated just seven months ago. Subscription is by sending the single word 'subscribe' in a message addressed to GEISE-L-request@Rootsweb.com . Nelson R. Sulouff //////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: "D. Kohler" <dkohlerx2@adelphia.net> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [PA] Baker/Becher - Bowman - Zartman > Nelson: > > Thank you for the Bauman/Bowman name variation and the offer of your > Bauman/Bowman information. I have Elizabeth as being born 3/10/1780 in > Heidelberg Twp. of York Co... If your 3rd great grandmother did not > have an older sister, Elizabeth, who married a Zartman, I wouldn't have > a way to connect your info to mine. So, I'm going to turn down your > kind offer, but I'll put your note in my files in case I eventually > find a connection. > > Is your Geise pronounced as "Geesey"? I have a number of Geesey, > Geiselman, Geisert, and Geisler on my family trees. > > Thank you. > > Debra > > On Tuesday, Jun 8, 2004, at 19:38 US/Eastern, Nelson Sulouff wrote: > > > Debra, > > > > My 3rd great grandmother, Hannah BOWMAN b. 3/26/1793 in Berks Co., was > > daughter of immigrant Jacob BAUMAN who was b. 2/1/1752 in Germany and > > was married before 1777 to Susanna Bruck probably in Berks Co. They > > moved to lower Northumberland Co. after 1793. Jacob and Susanna Bauman > > died and are buried in St. David's Cemetery, Hebe, Northumberland Co. > > > > I have names and dates for four of Hannah BOWMAN's brothers born > > between > > 1777 and 1780 (including twins), and I have the married names for > > Hannah > > and her sisters. Indications are that they were all born in Berks Co. I > > regret I have good information only on the youngest of these children, > > Hannah, who married my 3rd great grandfather, Samuel GEISE. Hannah & > > Samuel GEISE lived and died in Monroe Twp., now in Snyder Co. PA. > > > > The main reason I am sending you this response is to be sure you > > recognize that my ancestral family used both the German spelling BAUMAN > > and the anglicized spelling BOWMAN, and you might want to be on the > > lookout for the German spelling for the ancestors of your Elizabeth > > BOWMAN. > > > > I do not see any certain connection between my BOWMANs and your > > BOWMANs, > > but there might be some possibilities. Will send you all I have on my > > BAUMAN>BOWMAN family if you wish. My information comes from ancestral > > records passed down in the GEISE family and also from the CD marketed > > as > > WORLD FAMILY TREE (WFT), CD#4, Pedigree #922. > > > > Nelson R. Sulouff > > > > ////////////////////////////////// > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "D. Kohler" <dkohlerx2@adelphia.net> > > To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:16 AM > > Subject: [PA] Baker/Becher - Bowman - Zartman > > > > > >> > >> Hi, List: > >> > >> I'm looking for information on the parents and siblings of Elizabeth > >> Baker/Becher and Elizabeth Bowman: > >> > >> Elizabeth Baker/Becher (abt 1805-abt 1849, Adams Co., PA). > >> > >> She married Peter Zartman (1803-1885, Adams Co., PA) and had the > >> following children: Susan (1824-1904); Emanuel (1828-1843); Jesse > >> (1830-1903); Peter (1831-1905); Rebecca (1833-1906); Mary (1834-?); > >> Abraham (1836-?); Edwin (1839-1905); Anna (1841-?); Elizabeth > > (1843-?); > >> John (1845-1881); David 1848-?). > >> > >> Elizabeth Bowman (1780-1859; York Co., PA) > >> > >> This Elizabeth married John Peter Zartman (1778, Northumberland > >> Co.-1842, York Co.) and had the following children: Peter > > (1803-1885); > >> Henry (1808-1862); Solomon (1809-1892); David (1812-1894); Elizabeth > >> (abt 1814-1889); Mary (1814-?); Catharine (1817-1894); Michael > >> (1820-1900); Susan (1824-1904). > >> > >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >> > >> Debra > > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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In my tree, I have an Anna Katharena Geiss (daughter of Hans Georg Geiss?) b. 1684, who married Johan Abraham Staudt in 1701. They are listed by the PAL project as emigrating aboard the ship, Loyal Judith in 1739, along with several sons and daughters, one of whom, Lisa Margaretha Staudt, who was married to Johann Nicholas Klee. Does anyone have information about these families or a relationship of A K Geiss to the Geiss' of Berks Co? I believe that Lisa Margaretha died in Bern Twp. in 1786.

Would anyone have any pictures they'd like to share of Guardsmen from the outfit in Brookville, Jefferson County? It would be nice to see some photos with names attached.