Hi, Nancy, The years for immigration listed on the censuses tend to vary, and should be viewed as guidelines only. However, I did a look through the Passenger and Immigration lists at Ancestry for you. I found one exact name match, a Frederick Koerner who immigrated in 1845, but the source was a Philadelphia naturalization record and you've already got his from York, PA. I fiddled around with the soundex, took his name down to Fred, just "F", etc. Finally, I searched for all "Koerner" names, exact spelling, for years between 1845 and 1861, and I got one "??? Koerner" who could just be yours. He just happens to have immigrated in the year 1851, in NY, NY. Here's the source if you want to check it: Source Publication code: 8660.1 Primary Immigrant: Koerner, Mr. Source Bibliography: Smith, Clifford Neal. Reconstructed Passenger Lists for 1851 via Hamburg: Emigrants From Germany, Austria, Bohemia, Hungary, Poland, Russia, Scandinavia, and Switzerland to Australia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, the United States and Venezuela. (German and Central European Emigration Monograph, 2.) McNeal, Ariz.:Westland Publications, 1986. Parts 1-4. 168p. Page 3. That's all that is offered. There is also a Friedrich Koerner who came through in 1850, but he arrived in New Orleans. This seemed a bit south for you. But let me know if you want that source citation as well. Cheers, Elysia ----- Original Message ----- From: "jan1940" <jan1940@wpa.net> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:23 PM Subject: [PA] Help Locating information > Hello to all > I have been searching for ships list and port my great grandfather came to USA, > Frederick J. Koerner, Kerner,Kanner, Korner > Born 1818 in Aldenburg Germany > On the Carroll County Md.1900 census it states he came to US in 1851, How much can I trust this date? > I found his intention and Naturalization papers in York county PA > ( Int. )1861 (Natz)1863 I gives no other information > I sent to Baltimore and Philadelphia for ships list, they didn't find him I checked the Ships list books at the York Pa Heritage Trust , no luck > found him and wife in York County PA census 1860., I have not found any information to cause me to believe he lived any other place then York County Pa and then Carroll County Md from the late 1970s till death. > What else can I look, what else can I do to find this information ? > I do not belong to Ancestry.com and I do not live near a library where I could order film so please don't send that information, I have that information > I sure many of you have run into this problem and moved on to find what you need how and where were some of the other places did you find records and information? > Deepest Thanks > Nancy > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > If your Pennsylvania ancestor was German or Swiss, check out the > Pennsylvania Dutch Family History website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >