In a message dated 7/11/2006 4:48:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: please do a look up for me on the 1871 census, and if possible the 1861 census. LOL Sunny Wales ehhh? That explains the 61 and so on <G> I can't do it right now but if no one else has I will have at it in a hour or so <G> Eliz In Sunny Pa