Thanks Howard, Now I see on my sheets that ELIZABETH HICKMAN. Baptised: May 7, 1793 in Greene Co. at the Old Dutch Lutheran Church. Married: BARNET RENNER, so that would make ELIZABETH RENNER their grandchild. Where did JOSEPHUS FOX come into the mix? I have a JOSEPH LINDLEY FOX the son of: ALLEN FOX. JOSEPH LINDLEY FOX : was born: May 19, 1855, died: 1912. But I have he married a SARAH ? in 1879. Do you have the names of the other children of JOSEPHUS FOX & ELIZABETH RENNER ? CARPE DIEM, Lori ; ) in Arizona