Hi, I don't remember who was helping me with this but I have another question. Could there be a birth record recorded around 1874 in Lackawanna Co. for John Leitz or William Leitz born 1866. Was there a F. J. Leitz. The F could have been for Frederick, born abt. 1868 but he was born in Ohio. Hopefully someone can solve this puzzle. Don't know the last name of the Mother but her first name was Mary born Oct. 1839 in Germany Father was William Leitz born Jan. 1838 in Germany and Immigrated 1857 the 1900 census said the he was in the US 43 years and married 42 years. I don't know where to go with this. If someone could direct me I would be so grateful. Sandy

Hi, Sandy, I had found some previous information that I sent to you that I'm now copying to this message: I'd like to share what I was able to find as possible clues to help you: 1880 Federal Census Pennsylvania, Lackawanna Co, Jermyn Leitz, William 43, head, born abt 1838 Wurtenberg (sic) painter Mary 40, wife, born abt 1864 Baden Frances J. 20, dau, born abt 1860 PA painter Mary, 16 dau, born abt 1864 PA William, 14, son, born abt 1866 PA painter Frederick, born abt 1868 OHIO Lizzey, born abt 1871, PA George, born abt 1873, PA John, born abt 1874, PA Charley, born abt 1877 PA Henry, born abt 1879 PA 1895 Minneapolis Territorial and State Census: Leitz, John F. age 22, Resident of State 13 years, born Penna, Resident of District 1 year Occupation: painter Leitz, Josephine, 23, wife, born Scotland Leitz, Margry age 2, born Minnesota Leitz, William age 4/12, born Minnesota Living at 1417 6th St, Ward 9, Minneapolis, Minn. 1900 Minneapolis Territorial and State Census: Leitz, Mrs. William - 814 6th St, S. E., Minneapolis Leitz, Charles age 28 Leitz, William age 35 Roll V290_68 1900 Federal Census, Minnesota, Hennepin, Minneapolis, Ward 2, District 13: LEITZ, William born Jan 1838 age 62, Germany, Immigrated 1857 Years in the US 43, naturalized, Superintendent/Mgr. Casket Co. Married 42 years LEITZ, Mary, wife, born Oct 1839, age 60, Germany Married 42 years, # of Children: 13 - Living 1900: 10 LEITZ, George, born Oct 1874, PA occup: Grocer LEITZ, Charles, born Oct 1876, PA occup: Agent, Paints LEITZ, Henry, born Mar 1879, PA occup: Bookkeeper WW1 Draft Registration Card Charles Jacob LEITZ 4044 Garfield Ave Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minn. Age 42 DOB: Oct 28, 1876 Occup: Secretary Gardner Hardware Co. 304 Hennepin Ave, Minneapolis Nearest Relative: Blanche Wheeler LEITZ, wife 4044 Garfield Ave, Minneapolis, Minn. WW1 Draft Registration Card: LEITZ, Henry George 2837 Irving Ave. So. Minneapolis, Minn Age 40 DOB: March 4, 1878 Occupation: Salesman Gardner Hardware 304 Hennepin Ave, Minneapolis, Minn. Nearest Relative: Minnie C. LEITZ WW1 Draft Registration Card: LEITZ, George Louis RR 2, Hopkins, Hennepin, Minnesota Age: 44 DOB: October 8, 1873 Occup: Farmer Monnetonto (looks like), Minn. Nearest Relative: Mrs. Praxed St Mount LEITZ And the final military information that appears to Be of significance: CIVIL WAR PENSION INDEX: LEITZ, William LEITZ, Mary E. widow Filed for Invalid Pension on 1891, June 16 Under number 1031236 Certificate #829696 in Minnesota Widow applied for Pension in 1904, June 6 under Certificate # 807.939 in Minnesota based on this service Record: Union Army Served with K, 5, PA Infantry Rank In: Ensign Rank Out: Sec. Lieutenant M554_Roll 70 Served with L, 5, PA Calvary Penna Cav. Penna 5th Regiment, 65th Volunteers Rank In: Pvt/Rank Out: Pvt M554_Roll 70 I have a subscription to vintage newspapers and found a number of references to LEITZ family from Minnesota including: DULUTH DAILY NEWS July 13, 1887 F. J. LEITZ with the Northwestern Casket Company of Minneapolis is at the Merchants. (Hotel) BISMARK TRIBUNE May 11, 1887 F. J. LEITZ of Minneapolis is at the Sheridan Then there was mention of an Undertakers Convention, again, the name F. J. Leitz. It appears that some of the LEITZ sons traveled to surrounding states from Minnesota and stayed at hotels while they were on business for the Northwestern Casket Company in Minneapolis. And from the DULUTH NEWS TRIBUNE July 22, 1910 An obituary entitled DULUTH PIONEER DIES SUDDENLY AT SEATTLE Unable to stand the rigors of a journey from Duluth To Seattle...Mrs. Magdolene WELLAND, 73 years old, and for 48 years a resident of Duluth who had gone to visit her daughter in Seattle died there on Tuesday due to the extreme heat. Mrs. Wieland (note spelling difference) left Duluth only a week before to visit her daughter, Mrs. William LEITZ of Seattle. She was accompanied by Mrs. J. F. SCHLEUNES, another daughter, residing at 1625 East Fourth St, Duluth where Mrs. WIELAND also made her home. Mrs. Wieland is also survived by a third daughter, Mrs. J. J. OEDER of Portland, OREGON, AND TWO SONS, Albert H. and Gustave A. Wieland, both of Duluth. Interment will take place in Duluth. And the final information that seemed rather possible based on William Leitz (born 1838 in Germany) son Frederick's birthplace shown as Ohio in the 1880 Census from Jermyn, Lackawanna Co, PA. I found this census information - >From the 1860 OHIO, Wyandot Co, Salem Twp, Upper Sandusky LEITZ, John P. 46 Born Baden (as were all the family below) LEITZ, Elisabeth 43 LEITZ, William 22 (born 1838) LEITZ, Phillip 20 LEITZ, Augustus 13 LEITZ, Catherine 11 The various census years and locations show that there were many LEITZ families, nearly all from Germany. So finding your correct family will be a difficult challenge. It seems to me that your best clues are the family occupation of casket painters, superintendent Of Northwestern Casket Company, Minneapolis and possibly getting a copy of the Civil War Invalid and Widow's Pension Application Files from the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) in Washington, DC. (You can find them online And also order a copy of the Pension files online by using a credit card.) Hopefully you will find something in this post that will be of assistance to you in your research. Sylvia -----Original Message----- From: pennsylvania-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pennsylvania-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of joe.sandy@comcast.net Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 6:55 PM To: Pennylvania@roostweb Subject: Re: [PA] John Leitz birthdate/1874 Hi, I don't remember who was helping me with this but I have another question. Could there be a birth record recorded around 1874 in Lackawanna Co. for John Leitz or William Leitz born 1866. Was there a F. J. Leitz. The F could have been for Frederick, born abt. 1868 but he was born in Ohio. Hopefully someone can solve this puzzle. Don't know the last name of the Mother but her first name was Mary born Oct. 1839 in Germany Father was William Leitz born Jan. 1838 in Germany and Immigrated 1857 the 1900 census said the he was in the US 43 years and married 42 years. I don't know where to go with this. If someone could direct me I would be so grateful. 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