Yesterday and today when I receive my digest emails it says "Sorry. We cannot read this message. It is no longer on the server." Is there a problem with Rootsweb? I remember people with AOL were having problems recently but I've never had this problem?

Many thanks to all you wonderful people for the information about Solomon and his family. Special thanks to Lynn for the Maryland GS Bulletin -where did you find that amazing piece of information - I wonder if the question of Solomon's parentage was ever answered. My son-in-law, Richard David Hartley, (Solomon's g/g/g/grandson) is delighted. I will now follow up on the advice received. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Gurney" <lgurney@stny.rr.com> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [PA] HARTLEY/GWYNUP > Margaret, > I found the following query in the Maryland Genealogical Society Bulletin, > Vol 7, No.4, November 1966, pg 105: > > Hartley: Who were the parents of Solomon Joseph Hartley? He was a sea > captain of Phila., Pa., born about 1770. Accidently drowned in Delaware > River about 1815, wife was Mary Gwynap Clegg Onetti - Maiden name Gwynap. > Three sons: Geo. W; William and Abner. > > I know it's not much, but I hope this helps a little, > Lynn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Gill" <gillmarg@iinet.net.au> > To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:13 AM > Subject: [PA] HARTLEY/GWYNUP > > > > Hello everyone! I have just joined the list as I am researching my > son-in-law's American ancestors and I am stuck. > > > > I am looking for Solomon Joseph HARTLEY and his wife Giles GWYNUP. > > > > I have census and Family Search IGI index references for their son > George Washington HARTLEY and his wife Rebecca PAUL, both born in 1805 in > Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The census records show Solomon as > being born in GER (I assume this means Germany) and his wife as born in PEN. > > > > I also found a 1790 census reference for William GWYNUP, Philadelphia, > Northern Liberties. > > > > I haven't signed up with Ancestry as it is a bit expensive for Australians > searching for only a few names. Any information or advice about any of the > above would be most appreciated. > > > > Margaret Gill > > Fremantle, Western Australia. > > > > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > > If your Pennsylvania ancestor was German or Swiss, check out the > > Pennsylvania Dutch Family History website at: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > If your Pennsylvania ancestor was German or Swiss, check out the > Pennsylvania Dutch Family History website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Yep, I really enjoy my digital camera. Especially since I just upgraded the memory stick. I can now store about 200 pictures. It makes it a lot easier when I'm taking pictures of so many gravestones. -Melanie http://www.ancestralbranches.com/tombstones/gravestones.html

In a message dated 6/23/2004 4:34:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: It might help to know that GWYNUP is a Welsh surname and is derived from Ap Gwynn which is the patronymic name meaning "son of Gwynn". Joan I figured that and I tried some gwyns but didn't try double N The Philly area is so heavy in the Welsh I would have thought more would have shown up Don't forget the Rootsweb pages for Chester Delaware and Montgomery counties many of the early Welsh were Quakers and there were tons in the Merion Meeting burials Eliz

In a message dated 6/23/2004 3:43:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, Elizhlists@aol.com writes: Hartley in 1800 census @Philly Now the bad news is there is no Gwynup in the census for 1800 or 1820. The ONLY name is head of household if the Hartleys were with Gwynup or the other way you would only see one name. Eliz ---- It might help to know that GWYNUP is a Welsh surname and is derived from Ap Gwynn which is the patronymic name meaning "son of Gwynn". Joan

In a message dated 6/23/2004 11:57:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, daisygambel@msn.com writes: http://www.ancestralbranches.com/tombstones/gravestones.html Well I can get to many cemeteries near the Mont Co and Chester Co line what do you want? I like old stones that are barely readable [on the get them before they are gone principal] and the graves of Rev War Vets Eliz

In a message dated 6/21/2004 10:14:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gillmarg@iinet.net.au writes: I am looking for Solomon Joseph HARTLEY and his wife Giles GWYNUP. Hartley in 1800 census @Philly Now the bad news is there is no Gwynup in the census for 1800 or 1820. The ONLY name is head of household if the Hartleys were with Gwynup or the other way you would only see one name. Eliz George Hartley Lower Dublin, Philadelphia, PA 1800 Henry Hartley Lower Dublin, Philadelphia, PA 1800 Michael Hartley Lower Dublin, Philadelphia, PA 1800 Geog Hartley Northern Liberties (East), Philadelphia, PA 1800 James Hartley Philadelphia Lower Delaware Ward, Philadelphia, PA 1800 John Hartley Philadelphia Upper Delaware Ward, Philadelphia, PA 1800 Jacob Hartley Byberry, Philadelphia, PA 1810 Danl Hartley Philadelphia Upper Delaware Ward, Philadelphia, PA 1810 JohnM Hartley Philadelphia Upper Delaware Ward, Philadelphia, PA 1810 Nichl Hartley Philadelphia Upper Delaware Ward, Philadelphia, PA 1810 Joseph Hartley West Southwark, Philadelphia, PA 1810 Siddona Hartley West Southwark, Philadelphia, PA

In a message dated 6/21/2004 10:14:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gillmarg@iinet.net.au writes: also found a 1790 census reference for William GWYNUP, Philadelphia, Northern Liberties There is very little information to find in the1790, you find a name was there but it isn't very good at telling you that this is your family. Do go to Ancestry and download the census forms [you can also get all years at genealogy.com and at WBYU under their series ancestors] Eliz Unlocking Secrets in the 1790 U.S. Census The 1790 census was the first U.S. census and was very simple. It asked for name of the family head, number of free white males above 16 years old, number of free white males under 16, number of free white females, number of slaves, number of other persons Transcription helps with fact checking and provides easy-to-read reference sheets. Print a copy of each individual census record then transfer the information to our free census chart _www.ancestry.com/trees/charts/census.aspx_ (http://www.ancestry.com/trees/charts/census.aspx) (PDF 136K). Get Adobe Reader. 1, 1, 4, William Gwynup Township: Northern Liberties County: Philadelphia State: Pennsylvania Year: 1790 Roll: M637_9 Page: 205 Image: 0504

In a message dated 6/23/2004 11:56:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, daisygambel@msn.com writes: > I have just started a new website for digital gravestone pictures Thank you,Melanie.I have ancestors from PA.Don't know where they are buried but will be watching your site closely.Good luck !! Aren't these digital cameras great?Phyllis W.

AN OLD CITIZEN GONE Father McKemey Passes Away Monday Evening. WAS SIXTY YEARS IN IOWA Funeral Services at the Family Residence tomorrow. JOSEPH ALISON MCKEMEY was a native of Pennsylvania, and came to Iowa in 1839, being but 24 years of age. He settled at Farmington, Van Buren county, and removed from there to Fairfield in 1842. He was therefore one of the earliest settlers of this town and county. He was for many years engaged in the harness and saddlery business in this city, and was for six years county treasurer. He was one of the charter members of the Masonic order in this place and stood high in its councils. He was for many years one of the leading business men of Fairfield; a man of the highest integrity, of decided convictions and character, and one who stood very high in the estimation of all his neighbors. Father MCKEMEY was taken sick on Christmas eve, and after an illness of ten days he passed away on Monday night at 11 o'clock. He leaves behind him Mother MCKEMEY, now in her 81st year, with one son, HON. J. S. MCKEMEY, of this city, and three daughters, MRS. S. J. CHESTER and MRS. R. J. WILSON, also of Fairfield, and MRS. DR. SUTTON, of Oklahoma. The funeral services will be held at the family residence on west Washington street, tomorrow at 2 p.m. REV. A. F. MARSH will officiate and will be assisted by DR MAGILL. Among those from a distance who will be present at the funeral will be HON. JACOB SLAGLE, of Pittsburg, Pa., REV. BERNARD SLAGE, of Defiance, O., and MRS. J. B. NEELEY, of St. Joseph, Missouri. Fairfield "Weekly Journal" Fairfield, Iowa Jefferson County Jan. 12, 1898 Page 4 Transcribed by Deborah Brownfield - Stanley no connection just wanted to share.

Bravo! Wish I did have a photo to submit! Constance

Hello everyone. I have just started a new website for digital gravestone pictures from Schuylkill, Berks, and Northumberland Counties. I live in Berks county near the boarder of Schuylkill county. I will be taking pictures with my digital camera this summer and uploading them to the web site. The digital pictures will be available free of charge to all visitors. Do you have pictures of gravestones from Berks, Schuylkill or Northumberland County, Pennsylvania? If so, please consider submitting the digital image to the project. You would be given credit on the submitter page and a chance to earn a free Memorial Page. So, far there are some gravestone images uploaded for St. Michael's Cemetery in Hamburg, Berks, PA and St. Ambrose Cemetery in Schuylkill Haven, Schuylkill County. The site is still a work-in-progress. Help spread the word on this new site. And, if you have a genealogy web site I'd be happy to exchange links with you. By the way, some of the interior pages use Flash and sound. So, you may need to be patient for the header of the page to load. Enjoy. http://www.ancestralbranches.com/tombstones/gravestones.html Sincerely, Melanie

Looking for a Store on 26th and Chesnut, Owned by a Mr Albert Fluegel, Erie Pa- West Side. Thank You. ( This Store is no longer there)

Hi, John: I have a few of these names on my family's trees. Keeney: Speed Keeney who married Esther Markey (1914-1982) and their 7 children. Groff: Samuel Groff who married a Magdelena Keener (abt 1815); Barbara Groff (1728-?) who married a Paulus Wilt. Grove: Samuel Grove (1861-1941) who married Susanna Ellen Stabley/Stabler (1865-1933); their child Archibald (1889-1961) who married Beulah Mae Hershner and their 12 children. Danner: Michael Danner, Sr., (1696-1782) who married Anna Bend and their 8 children; Christina Danner who married Andrew Hirschi in 1610; Christine Danner (bef 1859-1939) who married Samuel Bollinger (1854-1925); Webster Danner who married Flo Gladfelter (abt 1904-?). These lines are on the periphery of my family's trees. Let me know if any of these people are part of your lines. Debra On Wednesday, Jun 23, 2004, at 08:59 US/Eastern, John Getz wrote: > I research KEENEY; GROFF/GROVE; UPDEGRAFF; and DANNER of York and Adams > County. I can share and compare in any way you desire. > > John L. Getz MD > 266 Egret Lane > Vero Beach FL 32963-2623 > Ph 772-234-5364 > Email <jgetz1@bellsouth.net> > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > If your Pennsylvania ancestor was German or Swiss, check out the > Pennsylvania Dutch Family History website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I agree with the message below. However, Kinkos told me that they can make a copy as wide as you want it, but only 36" high. Susan On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 06:14:27 -0500 "Lafe Nelson" <lanelson@execpc.com> writes: > Additional information to those that requested instructions for > printing large trees. > > Kinkos and many large print shops can print *.PDF or *.KDF files > submitted on 3 1/2 Floppy, CD, Thumb drive or Zip drives. > The file can also be sent by email. > > Office Depot may be able to do the same thing. > > Lafe > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > If your Pennsylvania ancestor was German or Swiss, check out the > Pennsylvania Dutch Family History website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

I research KEENEY; GROFF/GROVE; UPDEGRAFF; and DANNER of York and Adams County. I can share and compare in any way you desire. John L. Getz MD 266 Egret Lane Vero Beach FL 32963-2623 Ph 772-234-5364 Email <jgetz1@bellsouth.net>

Additional information to those that requested instructions for printing large trees. Kinkos and many large print shops can print *.PDF or *.KDF files submitted on 3 1/2 Floppy, CD, Thumb drive or Zip drives. The file can also be sent by email. Office Depot may be able to do the same thing. Lafe

The Topeka Capital-Journal Topeka, Shawnee County, KS Tuesday - June 22, 2004 BETH H. SKOOG Beth H. Skoog, 74, Topeka, died Sunday, June 20, 2004. She was born June 18, 1930, in Tarentum, Pa., to Pauline Elvira Stuart Henry and Walter Wilson Henry. They preceded her in death as did her stepfather, Roland G. Ruppenthal. She attended Falls Church High School and Madison College, both in Virginia. She worked for five years as executive secretary to the managing partner of Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner, and Smith in Washington, D.C. She met Ralph Skoog, of Topeka, while he was stationed at Fort Belvoir, Va. They married on November 19, 1953, and moved to Topeka to raise their family. She was elected and served as president of both the Shawnee County and the Second Congressional District, Republican Federation of Women, and as vice-chair of the Shawnee County Republican Party. She is survived by her husband, Ralph; her sons and daughters-in-law, Eric and Sandra Skoog of Longview, Texas, Peter Skoog, DVM, of Alva, Okla., Carl and Johann a Skoog, of Libertyville, Ill., Curt and Amy Skoog, of Overland Park, and Edward Skoog and Jill Marquis, of New Orleans, La.; her brothers- and sisters-in-law Betty and Norman Bomar, Astrid and Robert Reed, all of Topeka, and Sue Skoog, of Ottawa, Kan. She is also survived by seven grandchildren, Allison, Andrew, Austin, Chelsea, Hunter, Reed, and Will Skoog, her extended family and neighbors of Potwin Place, all of whom were blessed by knowing her. She was kind, caring, and giving. She enjoyed conversation, reading, and bridge. She will be missed, mourned, and remembered by all who knew her. A funeral service will be held 1 p.m. Wednesday at Penwell-Gabel Mid Town Chapel. Burial will be at Highland Cemetery in Osage County. Mrs. Skoog will lie in state after noon today at the funeral home, where the family will greet friends from 6:00 to 8:00 p.m. today. Memorial contributions may be made to Friends of the Library, 1515 S.W. 10th Street, Topeka, 66604. Online condolences may be left at www.penwellgabel.com . Her picture can be seen at: http://legacy.com/cjonline/LegacySubPage2.asp?Page=LifeStory&PersonID=2349920

You're quite welcome. Good luck with your search! Debra On Tuesday, Jun 22, 2004, at 11:06 US/Eastern, Howard and Peggy Jones wrote: > Hi Debra; Thanks for replying to my querie but I don't think any of > these > Bush people are in my line however you never know. My Bush family was > around > Bedford Co. and Huntington Co. I think My ggrandfathers name was > William > ( and I believe his first name was Charles) He was some relation of > George > Washington Bush who died in 1931, but ggrandfather died in 1902. We > are > having a Bush Family reunion in July and i'm hopeing to have some > little > tid-bit of info on him. Thanks for the info and I'll check it out. > Peggy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D. Kohler" <dkohlerx2@adelphia.net> > To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: [PA] re:Bush > > > Hi, Peggy: > > Could this be your family? > > Household: 1880 (familysearch.org) > Name Relation Marital > Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's > Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > Fredrick > BUSH Self M Male W 50 SAXONY Farmer SAXONY SAXONY > Sidney BUSH Wife M Female W 52 PA Keeping > House PA PA > Edmond B. > BUSH Son S Male W 21 PA Lumberman SAXONY PA > Willins S. BUSH Son S Male W 19 PA SAXONY PA > George W. BUSH Son S Male W 17 PA SAXONY PA > Pheobia A. BUSH Dau S Female W 16 PA SAXONY PA > Henrietta BUSH Dau S Female W 11 PA SAXONY PA > Elisebeth BUSH Dau S Female W 10 PA SAXONY PA > Oscar BUSH Son S Male W 9 PA SAXONY PA > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > Source Information: > Census Place Montgomery, Indiana, Pennsylvania > Family History Library Film 1255135 > NA Film Number T9-1135 > Page Number 365B > > Debra > > On Wednesday, Jun 9, 2004, at 14:11 US/Eastern, Howard and Peggy Jones > wrote: > >> I wonder if there is anyone in or around PA. especially the Bedford >> County, area or perhaps the Juniata, Huntington area who maight have >> any information at all, on my great grandfather, William Bush and who >> his parents could have been. I believe that he may have had a brother >> George Washington Bush born about 1864. William according to my >> G.Grandmother was born in 1860 at Buffalo Mills. However the census of >> 1900 says 1858 and the census of a couple of his children have >> different dates. There was a Charles and Rachel Bush who came from >> Germany and lived in Buffalo Mills in 1860 but supposedly William was >> not born until July 8, 1860 so would not have been listed. I can find >> no record of him agian until his Certified Marriage Cert. to my >> GGrandmother on July 23, 1882. He died on Jan. 16, 1902 in Londonderry >> TWP. and is buried in the Hyndman Cemetery. I know there are still >> some of the Bush family living especially children of G.W. Bush but >> they will not answer any of my lette! >> rs or inqueries. I can only think that they are not interested in the >> past as we Bush's are. If anyone has a clue or any bit of information >> it would be so welcomed. My guncle and g. Aunt, Thomas Ellsworth and >> Minerva (Nerve Stuby) lived in Hyndman for years and perhaps some of >> there grandchildren are still around. >> I also believe, but no proof , so far that we were related to the >> Shaffers. Will be praying that someonethere can give me a direction to >> look in. We are having a Bush Reunion on the 24th of July and would >> love to have some info. to shed some light on this elusive William >> Bush. >> Thanking you in advance >> Peggy Bush Jones-------handpjones@hereintown.net >> >> >> ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== >> If your Pennsylvania ancestor was German or Swiss, check out the >> Pennsylvania Dutch Family History website at: >> http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ >> >> ============================== >> Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >> Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > If your Pennsylvania ancestor was German or Swiss, check out the > Pennsylvania Dutch Family History website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, List: I'm looking for the parents of Eva Catherine Brenneman. 10/13/1779 - 12/18/1851, York Co., PA. She married Johann Christian Klinedinst (1779 - 1848, York Co., PA). Their children: Elizabeth (1802-1854); Jonas (1807-1858); Salome/Sarah (1809-1863); Daniel (1812-1879); Benjamin (1818-1892); Peter (1822-1898). Any help would be appreciated. Debra