In a message dated 7/10/2004 7:59:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lysi@comcast.net writes: Ellis island was only Ellis Island between 1892 and 1924. It was called various things before that: Castle Garden, Barge Office, etc. Depends on the years. So the Web site is only for those years. It wasn't the depot for immigrants before that, but it was always Ellis Island <G> Castle Garden etc were in the city proper Eliz

Thanks so much for trying to find info for me!! I'm hanging in there and still finding some info - Thank you again for your time - Diane * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * * http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/ -----Original Message----- From: Mdre007@aol.com [mailto:Mdre007@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 7:55 PM To: PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA] Barnes Diane, I did ask four different people that was there at my family reunion if any of them had come across the name Osencope. They said they had not heard of that name. But dont give up! One of the persons I asked said that they have been pretty stumped with trying to find out more about Margaret Barnes too. I did recieve lots of info that I have not been able to read yet. SORRY!!! Mdre007@aol.com ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== To contact the list administrator, send an e-mail to: PENNSYLVANIA-admin@rootsweb.com Direct any questions or comments of an administrative nature to the admin address and NOT to the list -- the list is for Pennsylvania genealogy discussion. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Robin - did you get a reply on this yet? Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <TinyClams@aol.com> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 11:26 AM Subject: [PA] 1930 census > Looking for: > > > Joseph Cucinotta born 1878 Italy > > wife: Antonette born 1877 Italy or PA (not sure) > > Would have lived in PA, mostly likely Philadephia. > > children: > James, Harry, Nat, Josephine, Katherine, Rose, probalbly only girls at home > by this time. > > Truly, Robin > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the new Mid-Atlantic Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Yes, Lanice, Jean, Ellis island was only Ellis Island between 1892 and 1924. It was called various things before that: Castle Garden, Barge Office, etc. Depends on the years. So the Web site is only for those years. Regards, Elysia ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeanquinn" <jeanquinn@btinternet.com> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [PA] Ellis Island Data Base [re-Peter Conway] > Hi Lanice, > These are the only dates that i know of, maybe > someone on the list in the U.S.A. can be of more help, > Regards > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lanice" <lsgre49@charter.net> > To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 4:40 PM > Subject: Re: [PA] Ellis Island Data Base [re-Peter Conway] > > > > Can you tell me if I am correct in that the records at Ellis Island only > are > > between 1892 and 1924? > > My family from Ireland would have came long before those dates. I am > > thinking between 1855-1860. > > Thank you, > > Lanice Green > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <SJBUNKAY@aol.com> > > To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 9:00 AM > > Subject: Re: [PA] Ellis Island Data Base [re-Peter Conway] > > > > > > > Hi Jean > > > > > > Go to Ellisislandrecords.org and log in and go to person search and the > > site > > > will prompt you from there. It is possible there could be hundreds of > > people > > > with the same name. > > > > > > I have a very successful time locating family through the ellis island > > > database. > > > > > > Steven Bunney ( London) > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > > > Help your fellow researcher out when you can... You may be surprised > > > by how they may help you. > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to contact the list administrator, send an e-mail to: > PENNSYLVANIA-admin@rootsweb.com Direct any questions or comments of an > administrative nature to the admin address and NOT to the list -- the list > is for Pennsylvania genealogy discussion. > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Diane, I did ask four different people that was there at my family reunion if any of them had come across the name Osencope. They said they had not heard of that name. But dont give up! One of the persons I asked said that they have been pretty stumped with trying to find out more about Margaret Barnes too. I did recieve lots of info that I have not been able to read yet. SORRY!!! Mdre007@aol.com

In a message dated 7/10/2004 3:56:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MOUSENGROUSE@aol.com writes: Joseph TURLEY and his brother Leonard TURLEY. The last address I have been given for them is on the 1920 census and is 336 Meade Street, Wilkinsburg, Allegheny Co., P.A. These are all the Josephs in Pa index he isn't with Leonard Joseph D Turley McKeesport, Allegheny, PA 50 1879 Pennsylvania White Head Joseph Turley Bridgeport, Montgomery, PA 10 1919 Son Joseph F Turley Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA 24 1905 Son Joseph C Turley York, York, PA 28 1901 West Virginia White Head Joseph C Turley York, York, PA 6 1923 Son

In a message dated 7/10/2004 3:56:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MOUSENGROUSE@aol.com writes: am not sure if Joseph's two children will be with them, but suspect they may have left home by then. Their names are Albert TURLEY and May TURLEY Seems Albert Married as well and is living with his mother in law Rose Kelly Eliz Elva Turley Age: 19 Estimated birth year: 1910 Relation to Head-of-house: Daughter Home in 1930: Rochester, Beaver, Pennsylvania Occupation: View image Education: View image Military Service: View image Rent/home value: View image Age at first marriage: View image Parents' birthplace: View image Owned a radio: View image Image Source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Rochester, Beaver, Pennsylvania; Roll: 1997; Page: ; Enumeration District: 89; Image: 772.0. Albert Turley Age: 21 Estimated birth year: 1908 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Relation to Head-of-house: Son-in-law Race: White Home in 1930: Rochester, Beaver, Pennsylvania Occupation: View image Education: View image Military Service: View image Rent/home value: View image Age at first marriage: View image Parents' birthplace: View image Owned a radio: View image Image Source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Rochester, Beaver, Pennsylvania; Roll: 1997; Page: ; Enumeration District: 89; Image: 772.0.

In a message dated 7/10/2004 3:56:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MOUSENGROUSE@aol.com writes: Joseph TURLEY and his brother Leonard TURLEY. The last address I have been given for them is on the 1920 census and is 336 Meade Street, Wilkinsburg, Allegheny Co., P.A Did you not get this: or is this not the correct Leonard. Leonard Turley and wife May he first married at age 42 , it says and he is a moulder in a Steel Company Eliz Age: 44 Estimated birth year: 1885 Birthplace: England Relation to Head-of-house: Head Race: White Home in 1930: Wilkinsburg, Allegheny, Pennsylvania Occupation: View image Education: View image Military Service: View image Rent/home value: View image Age at first marriage: View image Parents' birthplace: View image Owned a radio: View image Image Source: Year: 1930; Census Place: Wilkinsburg, Allegheny, Pennsylvania; Roll: 1993; Page: ; Enumeration District: 872; Image: 236.0

Looking for: Joseph Cucinotta born 1878 Italy wife: Antonette born 1877 Italy or PA (not sure) Would have lived in PA, mostly likely Philadephia. children: James, Harry, Nat, Josephine, Katherine, Rose, probalbly only girls at home by this time. Truly, Robin

Hi Alysia This is wonderful..Yes Albert's father's name was Joseph. Albert's mother was called Alice (nee Wellings), and I believe that she died somewhere in between the 1910/20 censuses. Joseph Turley was born at a place called Woodsetton, Sedgley, Staffordshire, England, and Alice was born in Tipton, Staffordshire. Joseph was born about 1874, and emigrated to the U.S.A. in 1907. I think Albert was born there, but his sister, May could have been born in England. I'm not sure. Leonard is Joseph's brother, and I think his wife was called May. Joseph and Leonard's father was Thomas Turley and his mother was Martha Jane Oakley. These were my great grandparents. They lived in Sedgley of course. I am really pleased to be making some progress as one of my uncle's is still alive, so would be Albert's cousin. I am hoping to find out also if there were any children from that marriage. Many many thanks Pat in England.

Was Joseph born in England? What was his wife's name? I may have found Albert, but would need to know where he was born as well. If he was born in PA and his parents were born in England, then there is one living with his wife's parents in Beaver County in 1930 who is aged 21 years. His wife is Elva Kelly, and he's living with Rose Kelly, head of house, aged 46, and a couple of lodgers. The only other possible Albert Turley in PA is a 19 yo in Nanticoke, Luzerne, who's living at home and whose father's name is also Albert. If you want details on the first Albert, let me know. If you could supply approximate age and birthplace for Joseph, that could help me find him. I have a Leonard Turley, aged 44, living with his wife May, 42 in Wilkinsburg, Allegheny. Let me know if you want details on this one. He's born in England. Cheers, Elysia ----- Original Message ----- From: <MOUSENGROUSE@aol.com> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 3:54 AM Subject: [PA] (no subject) > > Hello to all listers > > Could some kind person with access to the 1930 census do a look up for me for > Joseph TURLEY and his brother Leonard TURLEY. The last address I have been > given for them is on the 1920 census and is 336 Meade Street, Wilkinsburg, > Allegheny Co., P.A. > I am not sure if Joseph's two children will be with them, but suspect they > may have left home by then. Their names are Albert TURLEY and May TURLEY, but > she may have married. I not sure of May's age, but I think Albert was born > about 1907 which would make him aged about 23. > > Any help appreciated in finding the families of these Turleys. > > Best wishes > > Pat in England. > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > Help your fellow researcher out when you can... You may be surprised > by how they may help you. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello to all listers Could some kind person with access to the 1930 census do a look up for me for Joseph TURLEY and his brother Leonard TURLEY. The last address I have been given for them is on the 1920 census and is 336 Meade Street, Wilkinsburg, Allegheny Co., P.A. I am not sure if Joseph's two children will be with them, but suspect they may have left home by then. Their names are Albert TURLEY and May TURLEY, but she may have married. I not sure of May's age, but I think Albert was born about 1907 which would make him aged about 23. Any help appreciated in finding the families of these Turleys. Best wishes Pat in England.

Hi Jean Just to wish you success with your searching. I also have relatives who ended up in Allegheny, at some point in their lives. Mine are called Turley, and are my grandmother's brothers. If you find any other way of getting information on descendants, please let me know as I am struggling with what to do next also. Best wishes Pat in England.

Hello Charles Thanks for your good wishes. Was your teacher a Miss or a Mrs? I think the lady I am looking for was called Maggie, but not 100% positive. I do have a picture of her with her husband Leonard. I don't have a clue where she was from. Once again, many thanks. Pat in England.

Looking for descendents of: John Ulrich and Mary Amer Charlotte Amer McNulty Henry & Ann Amer Elizabeth Amer McComsey William & Mary Amer Cecilia Amer Mein Henrietta Amer & John G. Deal All of above lived in Philadelphia early 1800s Thank you Marie

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I had a great Teacher by the name of Turley before the 1930- from Morrisdale, Pa, She was great and after all these years I still remember her. Good luck in your search for the Turley line and maybe the teacher will fit into it some day. Charles

Hi All, I am a new to the list researching 3/4?members of my family who emigrated to Pittsburgh PA and California in the early 1900's I was delighted to receive information re- Peter Conway who was living in Allegheny PA with his family [1930] The info. i received stated that his details were on the Ellis Island Data Base 1892-1920. I am a member of the above foundation but could not find any reference on how to retrieve/access any of this info., am i on the wrong track? Apart from using /browsing various message boards + the IGI/Mormon data, i am unfamiliar on how to continue with my research in the U.S.A. with regard to this matter I would be very grateful for any help I must say i was very impressed by the prompt reply i received, and if the above Peter Conway is ours!! wow what a bonus Regards Jean [in the U.K.]

In a message dated 7/9/2004 9:56:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jeanquinn@btinternet.com writes: The info. i received stated that his details were on the Ellis Island Data Base 1892-1920. I am a member of the above foundation but could not find any reference on how to retrieve/access any of this info., am i on the wrong track? Go to the Dr Morse search engine thru Jewishgen which has kindly agreeded to host this VALUABLE resource _http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/intro.html_ (http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/intro.html) Then google for Dr Stephen Morse he has some really great searches set up for census eds and other goodies. Eliz

Thanks so much for the note and offer to ask about my Osencope/Osincup/Ozencoup etc. family! They are a complete mystery. I did just discovered there are a lot of this family in my home town (Vestal, NY)!! The family branch connected to the Barnes must be all part of this same family. I recently found a reference to Jacob Osincup (Sr.?) being in the Revol. War as a Hessian soldier captured at Valley Forge (Trenton). Any info greatly appreciated - Diane * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * * http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/ -----Original Message----- From: Mdre007@aol.com [mailto:Mdre007@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 11:34 PM To: PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PA] Margaret Barnes Diane, I saw your request for some information on Betsy Osencope, but I have not heard that name before. This Saturday our family is having a big reunion, I can ask someone who will be there if they have come across that name. There will be several of us who are researching our family that are coming. Hope I will be able to let you know something! Mdre007@aol.com ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== No FLAMING allowed on this list! We are a gentler kinder genealogy list. Don't be afraid to ask questions. There are no dumb questions on this list. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237