Hi Eliz: Thank you so much for your interest & input re my dilemma (& it sure is just that !!!) In as much as my man was b mid-census yrs (1896)& the extra problem of it being *possibly* an out-of- wedlock b plus not knowing the surname the b is entered under (i.e. Mother's - nee; step Father shown on 1900 census or biological Father) *I'm abt lost !! I have been doing family research for 20+ yrs & have never run into such a mystery as this one. Thanks a million for responding to me. Bev

I have a question, my gggrandmother died at age 30, in 1884. Everywhere I look you cant get records that far back, they start at 1902. Thats one question, She was buried in a pauper grave in Trinity cemetery in Erie pa. There is no Obit, there is no death record or funeral record, nothing, nothing in the Historical societys, genealogy societys, or librarys. Now someone somewhere had to at least prepare her body, and somehow she got in that grave, where do you look for such records? In PA. Also 31 years later her husband died in the Erie Co Poorhouse, are there patient records anywhere? I know the history of the Almshouse I need to learn a little something about the people there. Any information would be helpful lindadougan47@worldconnx.net

Hello Linda , I wonder , Have you asked for help on the Poorhouse List ??? , You might find the answer there !! , Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Dougan" <lindadougan47@worldconnx.net> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 3:41 PM Subject: [PA] Records > I have a question, my gggrandmother died at age 30, in 1884. Everywhere I look you cant get records that far back, they start at 1902. Thats one question, She was buried in a pauper grave in Trinity cemetery in Erie pa. There is no Obit, there is no death record or funeral record, nothing, nothing in the Historical societys, genealogy societys, or librarys. Now someone somewhere had to at least prepare her body, and somehow she got in that grave, where do you look for such records? In PA. Also 31 years later her husband died in the Erie Co Poorhouse, are there patient records anywhere? I know the history of the Almshouse I need to learn a little something about the people there. Any information would be helpful lindadougan47@worldconnx.net > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Http://www.amazon.com has Russel Neal Smith's Reconstructed Passenger List for 1851. It costs about $19.00. They claim a limited supply. > Reconstructed Passenger Lists for 1851 Via Hamburg > Source Publication Code 8660.1 > By Smith,Clifford Neal > Westland Publications in McNeal AZ printed 1986 > I checked books stores on line and used books, unable to > find one > Any help appreciate > If any one has a copy I would like a look up. Or if any > one knows where I could get the Book > Thank you > Nancy > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new > Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to > learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Vote for the stars of Yahoo!'s next ad campaign! http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/yahoo/votelifeengine/

In a message dated 7/18/2004 9:41:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, b18627t@catskill.net writes: have *desperate* need for b cert. ca 1896. Are records re 1896 era held in State repository or only in County where b took place Counties should have something, but birth certs might not be avaliable for that time, a 1900 Census should do the trick for you tho. Eliz

HiBev----The address for PA B.& D. and other records is---- Commonwealth of Pennsylvaniia, Dept. of Health, Division of Vital Records,----PO Box 1528 New Castle, PA 16103-1528 also effective Jan. 2004 Birth cert. are $ 10.00 and Death $ 9.00 Just received mail from them yesterday and i keep everything like that I get as proof positive including the envelopes. Hope this elps good luck ... you can also go to Pa Vital records on internet for a form to fill out but remember that these are the prices they sent me some forms say 3.00. ---- Original Message ----- From: "Bev Thomson" <b18627t@catskill.net> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 9:46 AM Subject: [PA] RE: Pa. VRs > Hi All: > Will someone please send me the s-mail add. of the > office where all *State of Pa.* VR's are held. > I have *desperate* need for b cert. ca 1896. Are > records re 1896 era held in State repository or only > in County where b took place? > I really need some input here. If I cannot find the > b documentation I will be @ a complete standstill w/no > place to turn. > PLEASE help me find a way out of this mystery. > Many thanks, in advance, for *any* info. > Bev > > > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

You're quite welcome. Are you interested in or do you need census material? If you want, I'll see if I can find him in the census. I would need names... Debra On Sunday, Jul 18, 2004, at 11:51 US/Eastern, Bev Thomson wrote: > My sincere thanks for your response to my *scream* > for help. Have checked the site that you sent & > have d'loaded a form to submit to St. Dept. of Health > in New Castle. > You asked what county my person was b in - he was b 1896 > in Wellsboro, Tioga Co. I now have the s-mail add. for > that place also (taken from the site)& will write to them. > The man that I am searching for seems next to impossible > to find. > Thank you, again, for your help. > Bev > > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > Help your fellow researcher out when you can... You may be surprised > by how they may help you. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

My sincere thanks for your response to my *scream* for help. Have checked the site that you sent & have d'loaded a form to submit to St. Dept. of Health in New Castle. You asked what county my person was b in - he was b 1896 in Wellsboro, Tioga Co. I now have the s-mail add. for that place also (taken from the site)& will write to them. The man that I am searching for seems next to impossible to find. Thank you, again, for your help. Bev

Hi, Bev: This site might be helpful: http://www.vitalrec.com/pa.html Do you know what county they were born in? Good luck with your search! On Sunday, Jul 18, 2004, at 09:46 US/Eastern, Bev Thomson wrote: > Hi All: > Will someone please send me the s-mail add. of the > office where all *State of Pa.* VR's are held. > I have *desperate* need for b cert. ca 1896. Are > records re 1896 era held in State repository or only > in County where b took place? > I really need some input here. If I cannot find the > b documentation I will be @ a complete standstill w/no > place to turn. > PLEASE help me find a way out of this mystery. > Many thanks, in advance, for *any* info. > Bev > > > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and > mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. > To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi All: Will someone please send me the s-mail add. of the office where all *State of Pa.* VR's are held. I have *desperate* need for b cert. ca 1896. Are records re 1896 era held in State repository or only in County where b took place? I really need some input here. If I cannot find the b documentation I will be @ a complete standstill w/no place to turn. PLEASE help me find a way out of this mystery. Many thanks, in advance, for *any* info. Bev

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I feel like I just found a goldmine. Thankyou for all the web sites you sent. I'm quite new at this and even was discouraged for a while but this has given me new hope. I will certainly try them all. I was able to get a lot of information from Rootsweb and Ancestry.com when I first started and from some web friends I have met that helped a lot. I felt like I was at a standstill until now.Thankyou. I'm sure you will hear from me again. Bev

I'm sorry. I didn't answer your question about the date of Leo Fisher. I'm not sure about it because my Dad just wrote his name and no date when he visited the cemetery. Bev

My Grandfather and Grandmother and Dad all moved to Cleveland Ohio about 1916. Leo Fisher Tobias is buried in the cemetery in Millheim PA. near where other family members are buried. I have not run across Leo Fisher Tobias before and don't know where he fits into the family. I don't know who Mary T. Fisher is either. I am sure there is a connection with our Family because my Grandfather George Fisher Tobias also carries the Fisher name And George was an only child. Thankyou again!!!

In a message dated 7/16/2004 12:02:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, EHRNREITER@aol.com writes: My TOBIAS relatives moved from Redding, PA to Cleveland, Ohio about 1916. How would I go about continuing my research in Cleveland or just Ohio? Reading and Berks Co have a lot of resources online - Cleveland has more <G> I am not too sure how good they are for more modern times but you must visit The Necrology at _www.cpl.org_ (http://www.cpl.org) and look up your family members there are marriages and births online and do join the Cuyahoga list at Rootsweb. Do you know about the Ohio historical society list of deaths from 191?? to 1937 _http://ohiohistory.org/_ (http://ohiohistory.org/) Resources/deathindex _http://ohiohistory.org/_ (http://ohiohistory.org/) _http://probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ml/_ (http://probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ml/) _http://members.aol.com/aimeevz/CuyOhMarIndx.html_ (http://members.aol.com/aimeevz/CuyOhMarIndx.html) Have fun! Eliz

Is anyone searching surname CAMERON in/around Tioga Co., Pa. ca late 1800s? I am looking for John Clarence CAMERON Sr. He had a son: John C. CAMERON Jr. b 3 Feb. 1896 - Pa. Hope someone can connect to this family. Would also like info re where to obtain copy of John Jr's b. Thanks, in advance, for your help. Bev

Hello List, I'm new to the list and I'm Researching the MOORE family of Somerset County, PA. John E. MOORE Son of James C. Moore, married Emma NEWMAN Daughter of Samuel NEWMAN & Rhonda RUTHERFORD in PA Children are: James Moore Bertha Moore Charles Moore John N. Moore Harry Moore Myrtle Moore Martha Moore Carla Moore George Norman Moore Clarence Moore Esther Moore Fredrick Moore Mrs.L.Reilly Lee@neo.rr.com Northern, OH

Hi, Bev: In your earlier email you mentioned a Tobias family moving from PA to OH about 1916...am I confused or was your Leo F. Tobias born in the early 1900's? Debra On Friday, Jul 16, 2004, at 00:09 US/Eastern, EHRNREITER@aol.com wrote: > I am searching for LEO FISHER TOBIAS possibly born around the early > 1800's > and a Mary T. Fisher b. Feb 2, 1846- d. March 13, 1897. Thank you! > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and > mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. > To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

I am searching for LEO FISHER TOBIAS possibly born around the early 1800's and a Mary T. Fisher b. Feb 2, 1846- d. March 13, 1897. Thank you!

My TOBIAS relatives moved from Redding, PA to Cleveland, Ohio about 1916. How would I go about continuing my research in Cleveland or just Ohio? Thanks for any help. I am so grateful to all you researchers willing to help others. Bev