I am looking for information for John James Flickinger Sr. ( Fleckenner,Fleckenger) b. 1802 in Conneaut Twp., Crawford Co, PA between 1810 and 1840. Where would the county seat be? Are there online information sites in PA I can use to search for him? He married Mary Bevelheimer b. 1799 in Lehigh , Northampton Co, PA. They married bef 1827 (no confirmation yet) . The many spellings of this name makes searching hard. I am not sure of his parentage. How do I proceed as I am looking from IL? Bev

Hello again all, Does anyone know anything about this Southwark, Philadelphia, PA John RUTTER (cordwainer...shoemaker) and family? I am trying to find out if my Southwark, Philadelphia, PA born John RUTTER (rope maker), born about 1790, was his son or other relation. I found this at rootsweb.com... RUTTER, JOHN. Southwark. Cordwainer. December 13, 1809. March 30, 1810. 3.76. All estate real and personal to wife Sarah Rutter during widowhood, if she marries, he gives same to his children: Jane, Elizabeth, John, Maria, William, Robert and child with which wife is now pregnant. Sd. wife to be guardian of children, after her decease or second marriage appoints his trustees Wm. T. Donaldson of Southwark sheriff and Jacob Kean of Northern Liberties, tanner as guardians. Execs: Sd. wife Sarah Rutter, friends Sd. William T. Donaldson, Jacob Kean. Wit: Samuel Barclay, Benjamin Morton, Rich. Renshaw. Thank you and good luck, Ella

the Barbara Landis site is hugh but I loved it.especially the B movies.this is carlisle indian schoolthank you keep on-keeping on-never quit. Roger

Hello, I am looking for informatin on this family: Eli Klein born 1895 in Russia plumber wife: Eva (went by Reva also) children: Sara born 1918 in PA Sol born 1925 in PA They lived in Philadelphia, PA. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks Robin

Hi, Phil: Here's the info that is on wwiimemorial.com : T SG Harry J. Newkirk ID: 7028874 Branch of Service: U.S. Army Hometown: Allegheny County, PA Status: KIA It says that the source of the info was the National Archives. Good luck with your search! Debra On Wednesday, Jul 28, 2004, at 13:22 US/Eastern, Phil Stevens wrote: > Hello list etal , Many of you have looked at various websites for my > Harry , which I appreciate , BUT < The Harry you say is listed as > being of > Allegheny County is NOT him , OR is Erroneously listed there , The > Family > WAS NEVER In that area , Harrys parents Benjamin Newkirk and Mary > Stevens/Stephens were married in Hollidaysburg Blair Co August 4 1919 > , > Harry was born in Blair Co July 28 1921 , at some time after that the > family > moved to New Castle , Lawrence Co , Both parents are buried in the > Graceland Cemetary , New Castle > The National Archives Military Site has it right !!!!! , > " http://aad.archives.gov/aad/title_list.jsp " > Harry J Newkirk ser # 07028874 , Resident state of Penn, , resident > Co of > Lawrence , Inlisted US Army June 28 1940 > I therefore can only Assume that Someone has made a FAULTY Data > Entry in > the sites you visited , Phil > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > If your Pennsylvania ancestor was German or Swiss, check out the > Pennsylvania Dutch Family History website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hello list etal , Many of you have looked at various websites for my Harry , which I appreciate , BUT < The Harry you say is listed as being of Allegheny County is NOT him , OR is Erroneously listed there , The Family WAS NEVER In that area , Harrys parents Benjamin Newkirk and Mary Stevens/Stephens were married in Hollidaysburg Blair Co August 4 1919 , Harry was born in Blair Co July 28 1921 , at some time after that the family moved to New Castle , Lawrence Co , Both parents are buried in the Graceland Cemetary , New Castle The National Archives Military Site has it right !!!!! , " http://aad.archives.gov/aad/title_list.jsp " Harry J Newkirk ser # 07028874 , Resident state of Penn, , resident Co of Lawrence , Inlisted US Army June 28 1940 I therefore can only Assume that Someone has made a FAULTY Data Entry in the sites you visited , Phil

Hello list , In my family is an ' Uncle ' , 22 year old , US Army soldier Died in Normandy France , June 8 1944 , I would like to know where he is Buried , So , if you have cemetery records could you check them for him ? , Harry James Newkirk born July 1921 Lawrence Co Penn I have checked the American Battle Monument site and the NARA grave locator site , Not listed !! , Phil

I sent a link that shows all the children that attended Carlisle Indian School on to the person that posted. Joy From: d longo <pagardengal@yahoo.com> Date: 2004/07/27 Tue PM 12:42:22 PDT To: PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PA] Carlisle Indian School Hi I located a webpage that I thought might be of interest. I have taken the tour and really liked it. There is a small graveyard in front of the school which is still visited. Apparently there is a custom of leaving items on the gravestones and that is how I know it is still visited. regards debi http://home.epix.net/~landis/tour.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== If you wish to contact the list administrator, send an e-mail to: PENNSYLVANIA-admin@rootsweb.com Direct any questions or comments of an administrative nature to the admin address and NOT to the list -- the list is for Pennsylvania genealogy discussion. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi I located a webpage that I thought might be of interest. I have taken the tour and really liked it. There is a small graveyard in front of the school which is still visited. Apparently there is a custom of leaving items on the gravestones and that is how I know it is still visited. regards debi http://home.epix.net/~landis/tour.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Peter RIGHTER (d.1819) was married to Elizabeth TINUS on October 30, 1759...Peter was the son of Bartholomew RIGHTER and Elizabeth. Bartholomew was a brother to Michael RIGHTER who's will and family info I sent earlier. Here is his Peter RIGHTER's will that I found at rootsweb.com... Peter RIGHTER, Roxborough Township. Phila. Co. Yeoman. October 2, 1817. June 26, 1819. Book 7, Page.30. To my wife, Elizabeth RIGHTER, and after her decease, estate to be sold and proceeds to my nine grandchildren, the children of my son, John RIGHTER, deceased, son, Joseph RIGHTER, granddaughter, Hannah JONES, daughter of my daughter, Mary JONES, deceased, granddaughter, Elizabeth RIGHTER, daughter of son, Anthony RIGHTER, deceased, daughter-in-law, Rebecca RIGHTER, widow of son, Anthony, daughter-in-law, ____, widow of son John RIGHTER. Exec: Friend, John LIVEZEY of Roxborough Township, Phila. Co., miller. Witnesses: Joseph LIVEZEY, Thomas LIVEZEY. Notice the surnames LIVEZEY and JONES.... Now providing that the information that I have pieced together from the internet is correct... 1. I do have a Thomas LIVEZEY in my family info. He was married to Martha KNOWLES born April 23, 1723. Martha was the daughter of John KNOWLES and Ann PAUL. Thomas LIVEZEY and Martha had a daughter Martha who was born June 03, 1755 in 'Glen Fern', Roxboro, Philadelphia Co., PA. Martha (the daughter) married Peter ROBESON who was born in Philadelphia, PA on November 30, 1748. Peter is of the same ROBESON family that married into the POTTS family. 2. I have an Evan JONES that was married to Elizabeth KNOWLES. Elizabeth was Martha (KNOWLES) LIVEZEY's sister. I really do think that the RIGHTERs are connected somehow to the RUTTERs and POTTS of Colebrookdale, PA. These surnames are all intertwining. I have a few JONESes and LIVEZEYs in my family tree that connect to the ROBESON/RUTTER/RAMBO/POTTS families in some way. Any thoughts? Ella

Thank you very much Joan! I will make any necessary corrections to my information. Take care, Ella

In a message dated 7/26/2004 7:39:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ella12866@aol.com writes: Does that macth what you have? I'm sorry but it just confused me a bit. Descendants of Christopher Geiger 1 Christopher Geiger 1722 - 1805 .. +Mary Robeson 1746/47 - 1808 ... 2 Anthony Geiger ... 2 Jacob Geiger ... 2 Henry Geiger ... 2 Catherine Geiger ....... +? Lewis ... 2 Elizabeth Geiger ....... +? Dick ... 2 John Geiger ... 2 Sarah Geiger ....... +? Hinkle ... 2 Christina Geiger ... 2 Elisha Geiger *2nd Wife of Christopher Geiger: .. +? ? ... 2 Mary Magdalena Geiger ....... +Joseph Kendel Thanks again! Ella ---- Ella- I have the 7 children of the first marriage between Christopher GEIGER and Mary Barbara GEIGER, nee GEIGER as: 1) Anthony born 26 April 1754, bapt. at Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading, PA. Anthony married Christianna Durst and settled in VA where his name evolved to KIGER. Anthony's son Benjamin KIGER had a son William Wiekle KIGER who was an Oregon Trail pioneer about 1860 who settled in Corvallis, OR. Kiger Gorge and Kiger Creek in Harney County, OR are named for this family as is Kiger Island in Corvallis. The famous wild Kiger mustangs are named for Kiger Gorge. 2) Jacob, born about 1755 in Douglassville, PA. Jacob served in the Rev. Jacob settled in Fayette Co., PA. He married and had at least one daughter, Sarah--probably other children. This family name also evolved into KIGER. 3) Henry, born Douglassville, PA -- was married and had two daughters but was decd. by 1805 as listed in his father's will. 4) Catherine born 9 July 1757, Douglassville, died 18 Sept. 1783 in York PA. She married William LEWIS of Berks County, PA. Their three children are named in her father's will. 5) Mary Magdalena born 17 Dec. 1763 in Douglassville, bapt. at Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading. Married Joseph KENDAL. 6) Margaret born about 1766, Douglassville, died 13 May 1767. Buried St. John's Lutheran, Gibraltar, Berks Co., PA. 7) Elizabeth born 2 May 1772, Douglassville. Bapt. 23 Oct. 1779, Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading, PA. died about 1803. Married Nicholas DICK. The 7 children of the second marriage of Christopher GEIGER and Mary ROBESON are: 8) Sarah, born about 1775 or later, near Gibraltar, Berks Co., PA. Married prior to 1800 to Philip Hinkle, Jr. [Note: The Henckel book lists Sarah as a child of the first marriage but she is not listed as a child of Barbara GEIGER, deceased, in Berks County Orphans Court records--so I believe she is a child of the second marriage.] 9) Elisha born 2 May 1776, Gibraltar, Berks Co., PA, died 12 Nov. 1821, Gibraltar. Married 16 Dec. 1798 (Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading) to Mary JONES. Both are buried at St. John's Lutheran, Gibraltar. 10) Barbara (twin) born about 1778, Gibraltar, Berks Co. died 12 May 1778. Buried St. John's Lutheran, Gibraltar. 11) Christina (twin) born about 1778, Gibraltar, Berks Co., died 20 May 1778. Buried St. John's Lutheran, Gibraltar. 12) Charles born 1783, Gibraltar, Berks Co., PA. died 25 July 1792, age 9 years. Buried St. John's Lutheran, Gibraltar. 13) John born 12 Oct. 1784, Robeson Twp., Berks Co., PA. bapt. 29 May 1785 at Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading. died 13 July 1823, Philadelphia, PA. He married 16 March 1815, Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading to Charlotte HARRISON of Union Twp., Berks Co. They had two children. 14) Christina II, born 13 July 1789, Gibraltar, Berks Co., bapt. 14 Nov. 1789 at Trinity Lutheran Church, Reading, PA. She married to John VANEDI on 27 March 1810 at Reading, PA. Joan

In a message dated 7/26/2004 7:30:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, JYoung6180@a ol.com writes: Answering my own question--I assume you are referring to the PARENTS of Valentine GEIGER, the immigrant--but they didn't marry in 1730 as their 13 children were born between 1685 and 1711. I've seen Maria Barbara's maiden name listed as BAUER but have not seen any proof of this. Do you have a source for her maiden name? No this is what I found online so far and thought it was interesting to think about at the very least. I am in the process of seeing what I can find that is verified on this. I'll also add that I looked over what I have recorded so far and with my deepest apologies I have no clue where I even found that 1730 marriage info! Thanks again! Ella

Hi Joan, Thank you for the confirmation on what I found! Yes! I did find Johann Valentine GEIGER Jr. born about 1685, the son of Johann Valentine GEIGER and Maria Barbara BAUER (BOWER), married to Johanna Frederica HENCKEL. Yes I do have Valentine GEIGER and Fredericka HENKEL's son Christopher, born 1722, married to Mary ROBESON. I found that they had 9 children though. Also, I have another marriage for Christopher GEIGER but to an unknown person and they had a daughter Mary Magdalena who married Joseph KENDEL. Does that macth what you have? I'm sorry but it just confused me a bit. Descendants of Christopher Geiger 1 Christopher Geiger 1722 - 1805 .. +Mary Robeson 1746/47 - 1808 ... 2 Anthony Geiger ... 2 Jacob Geiger ... 2 Henry Geiger ... 2 Catherine Geiger ....... +? Lewis ... 2 Elizabeth Geiger ....... +? Dick ... 2 John Geiger ... 2 Sarah Geiger ....... +? Hinkle ... 2 Christina Geiger ... 2 Elisha Geiger *2nd Wife of Christopher Geiger: .. +? ? ... 2 Mary Magdalena Geiger ....... +Joseph Kendel Thanks again! Ella

In a message dated 7/26/2004 7:21:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: In a message dated 7/26/2004 6:50:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ella12866@aol.com writes: Now I don't have Catherine GEIGER in my tree but I do have GEIGERs from PA. My earliest GEIGER and family is Johann Valentine GEIGER born 1661 in Daudenzell, Mosbach, Baden married in 1730 to Maria Barbara BAUER (BOWER) of Ittlingen, Kraichgau, Germany. My GEIGERs marrried into the ROBESON family which was married into the POTTS of Colebrookdale, PA. Which of course bring us to more RUTTERs. Now, does anyone else out there think that Michael RIGHTER and his families connect to the RUTTERs and POTTS of Colebrookdale, PA? Good luck, Ella --- Hi, Ella- You just said the magic word--GEIGER. <g> Something doesn't look quite right about the lineage you show above. --- Answering my own question--I assume you are referring to the PARENTS of Valentine GEIGER, the immigrant--but they didn't marry in 1730 as their 13 children were born between 1685 and 1711. I've seen Maria Barbara's maiden name listed as BAUER but have not seen any proof of this. Do you have a source for her maiden name? Joan

In a message dated 7/26/2004 6:50:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ella12866@aol.com writes: Now I don't have Catherine GEIGER in my tree but I do have GEIGERs from PA. My earliest GEIGER and family is Johann Valentine GEIGER born 1661 in Daudenzell, Mosbach, Baden married in 1730 to Maria Barbara BAUER (BOWER) of Ittlingen, Kraichgau, Germany. My GEIGERs marrried into the ROBESON family which was married into the POTTS of Colebrookdale, PA. Which of course bring us to more RUTTERs. Now, does anyone else out there think that Michael RIGHTER and his families connect to the RUTTERs and POTTS of Colebrookdale, PA? Good luck, Ella --- Hi, Ella- You just said the magic word--GEIGER. <g> Something doesn't look quite right about the lineage you show above. Valentine GEIGER of Ittlingen, Northern Kraichgau, Germany, emigrated to America/Philadelphia in 1717 on one of the "three little ships" mentioned in the introduction to Pennsylvania German Pioneers by Strassburger and Hinke, along with his father-in-law, Rev. Anthony Jacob HENCKEL. Valentine GEIGER was married to Johanna Frederica HENCKEL and had 7 children with her and then married second Maria Elizabeth SCHMIDT after his first wife's death. The connection to the ROBESON family, is that Valentine GEIGER's son Christopher (from his first marriage) married second (after the death of his first wife Mary Barbara GEIGER, nee GEIGER, widow of his older brother Anthony GEIGER), Mary/Maria ROBESON (1747-1808). Christopher GEIGER had 7 children from his first marriage and another 7 children from the second marriage. Joan

Follow me... Michael RIGHTER was married to Catherine GEIGER. Here is Michael RIGHTER's will... RIGHTER, MICHAEL. Roxbury, Co. of Phila. January 29, 1783. July 18, 1786. T.345. Wife: Caterena. Children: John, Casper, George, Peter, Michael, Daniel, Catherine, Margaret, Mary. Grandchildren: Five Children of Daughter Elizabeth, decd. [No names given]. Exec: Michael and John Righter. Wit: Charles Bower, Conrad (his mark) Markle. Codicil: Signed June 29, 1786. Children: John, Margaret. Wife: Catharine. Wit: Charles Bower, Matthew Holget Now I don't have Catherine GEIGER in my tree but I do have GEIGERs from PA. My earliest GEIGER and family is Johann Valentine GEIGER born 1661 in Daudenzell, Mosbach, Baden married in 1730 to Maria Barbara BAUER (BOWER) of Ittlingen, Kraichgau, Germany. My GEIGERs marrried into the ROBESON family which was married into the POTTS of Colebrookdale, PA. Which of course bring us to more RUTTERs. Now, does anyone else out there think that Michael RIGHTER and his families connect to the RUTTERs and POTTS of Colebrookdale, PA? Good luck, Ella

Crystal, I am to far away but have a super time please. Susi

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i dont know, i come from the Stadtmiller-schuda line, other side Irish, I schould know where Germntown is, but dont, we have one in Erie Pa. My cousin says there is a site, and he does all the research. just www. germantownpa.com I couldent find it, hopw you can. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Luzzi" <treqtrital@att.net> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 2:18 PM Subject: [PA] help Germantown > Dear Folks, > Could someone please tell me what churches are in the Germantown Ave. area > in 1860 > Thanks > donna luzzi > Va. Bch., Va. > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > No FLAMING allowed on this list! > We are a gentler kinder genealogy list. > Don't be afraid to ask questions. > There are no dumb questions on this list. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >