Sure wish I could help you, but I just have NY, Ohio, Pa. I can tell you how you can get similar maps to those I have for the states you want. They are produced by DeLorme Mapping, PO Box 298, Freeport, Maine 04032. Phone 9207) 865-4171. They are in book form, very large pages (I'm guessing something like 16x 11 maybe), and have very wonderful indexes. I like them because they have every little obscure place name and back road. I would highly recommend them. You might want to look in your local bookstore or Walmart. I see them in places like Borders and Barnes and Nobles, which seem to have them for most states. Walmarts seem to carry ones for their own plus adjoining states. Hope this helps!

In a message dated 09 22 2004 12:01:30 PM, PENNSYLVANIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Could someone please lookup the 1880 Philadelphia Census for a Frederick Helder and family? >> 00000000 The 1880 census is free on line at the LDS site. http://www.familysearch.org/ Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] botwinick@aol.com botwinick@alumni.rowan.edu MEBotwinick@alumni.temple.edu http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html

Thanks for the info...unfortunately I can't get out to them...I was rather hoping they might be on a web site. Maybe Cindi's list will have them. Thanks again. Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dustbunnytoo@aol.com> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [PA] map lookups > Sure wish I could help you, but I just have NY, Ohio, Pa. I can tell you how > you can get similar maps to those I have for the states you want. They are > produced by DeLorme Mapping, PO Box 298, Freeport, Maine 04032. Phone 9207) > 865-4171. They are in book form, very large pages (I'm guessing something like > 16x 11 maybe), and have very wonderful indexes. I like them because they have > every little obscure place name and back road. I would highly recommend them. > You might want to look in your local bookstore or Walmart. I see them in > places like Borders and Barnes and Nobles, which seem to have them for most > states. Walmarts seem to carry ones for their own plus adjoining states. Hope > this helps! > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Dusty: Do you do look ups on other maps besides Pa. I'm interested in very early maps on Va. Tn. and NC.? Thanks you Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dustbunnytoo@aol.com> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [PA] map lookups > I'm the one who posted the map lookup notice. Send along some of those names > and I'll see if they're on my map. If they are, I can tell you how to get > your copy, or I'll do the look ups for you, whichever you prefer. > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > No FLAMING allowed on this list! > We are a gentler kinder genealogy list. > Don't be afraid to ask questions. > There are no dumb questions on this list. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Dear Listers I am looking for my great-uncle Owen Morse Phillips (Owen M Phillips) and I understand he was at Shamokin, Northumberland according to 1800 Census but it is a mystery that there is no information about him after that... I understand that there were no other census with his name found as I am told. I looked up the Ancestry but I am not a member and there are 1900, 1920, and 1930 US Federal Census at Ancestry with Owen M Phillips who born at Wales in 1859/60. I wonder if there is one or not? Would anyone be kind enough to look up for me please? Thank you in advance. Angela Treanor New Zealand

Dear Listers I found that there is newpaper information in the Ancestry for my great-uncle Owen Morse Phillips and so I would be grateful if anyone would be kind enough to look up the Ancestry - Monessen Daily Independent (Monessen, Pennsylvania for me please? Owen Morse Phillips was born in Wales in 1859/60 and possibly emigrated to US in around 1880 according to 1880 US Census. Thank you in advance. Angela Treanor New Zealand

Hi Angela, The only Owen Philips I found that was born in Wales, was in the 1920 census. Don't know if he is the one you are looking for. 1920 US Federal Census, PA, Luzerne County, Edwardsville Borough, ED 39, pg 213B, Ancestry Image 8, line 62, 10 Jan 1920 Philips, Owen, 51, born Wales, parents born Wales, immigrated in 187?, citizen in 1876, laborer in coal mine Rachael, 46, born Wales, parents born Wales, immigrated 188?, citizen in 1892 Winfield, 24, son, married, born PA, laborer in coal mine Mary, 22, daughter-in-law, born PA, parents born PA William, 2/12, grandson, born PA Did not find them in 1910 or 1930. Susan On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 06:05:27 +1200 Angie and Alex <angelatreanor@actrix.co.nz> writes: > Dear Listers > > I am looking for my great-uncle Owen Morse Phillips (Owen M > Phillips) > and I understand he was at Shamokin, Northumberland according to > 1800 > Census but it is a mystery that there is no information about him > after > that... > > I understand that there were no other census with his name found as > I am > told. I looked up the Ancestry but I am not a member and there are > > 1900, 1920, and 1930 US Federal Census at Ancestry with Owen M > Phillips > who born at Wales in 1859/60. I wonder if there is one or not? > Would > anyone be kind enough to look up for me please? > > > Thank you in advance. > > Angela Treanor > New Zealand > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > The OFFICIAL website for this list is: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/pa/ > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today!

Hi Angela, Unfortunately Ancestry Newspapers do not search for a full name as you would want to. It searches for each individual name (first name, then surname as 2 separate entries) everything on "Owen" and everything on "Phillips", but not necessarily together. I found a Mrs. Owen in one article and a Dr. E.C. Phillips in another. Sorry. Susan On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 05:44:58 +1200 Angie and Alex <angelatreanor@actrix.co.nz> writes: > Dear Listers > > I found that there is newpaper information in the Ancestry for my > great-uncle Owen Morse Phillips and so I would be grateful if anyone > > would be kind enough to look up the Ancestry - Monessen Daily > Independent (Monessen, Pennsylvania for me please? > > Owen Morse Phillips was born in Wales in 1859/60 and possibly > emigrated > to US in around 1880 according to 1880 US Census. > > Thank you in advance. > > Angela Treanor > New Zealand > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > No FLAMING allowed on this list! > We are a gentler kinder genealogy list. > Don't be afraid to ask questions. > There are no dumb questions on this list. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today!

Index>Year:1880,Twp:Philadelphia,Co:Philadelphia,State:PA,Roll:T9_1184, ED:538,Page:318B,Image:0635 Frederick Helder,White,Male,21,Married,Wagon driver,b.PA,Father b.Germany, Mother b.PA. Josephine,White,Female,21,Wife,Married,Keeping house, b.PA, Parents b.PA. Kate,White,Female,9/12,Daughter,Single,b.PA,Parents b.PA. Emma McLane,White,Female,16,Half sister,Single,Housework,b.PA, Parents b.PA. SMOKELESS93@aol.com wrote: Could someone please lookup the 1880 Philadelphia Census for a Frederick Helder and family? Frederick would have been around 21 years old. thank You Ron Elliott ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== Have you seen the new Mid-Atlantic Roots Network at: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/ ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!

Hi, Ron: This was on familysearch.org :   Household: 1880  Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace  Frederick HELDER   Self   M   Male   W   21   PA   Wagon Driver   GER   PA   Josephine HELDER   Wife   M   Female   W   21   PA   Keeping House   PA   PA   Kate HELDER   Dau   S   Female   W   9M   PA      PA   PA   Emma MCLANE   HSister   S   Female   W   16   PA   Housework   PA   PA  ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Source Information:   Census Place 25th Ward, District 22, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania   Family History Library Film   1255184   NA Film Number   T9-1184   Page Number   318B   Debra On Tuesday, Sep 21, 2004, at 13:43 US/Eastern, SMOKELESS93@aol.com wrote: > Could someone please lookup the 1880 Philadelphia Census for a > Frederick > Helder and family? Frederick would have been around 21 years old. > thank You > Ron Elliott > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the new Mid-Atlantic Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ >

Couldn't find your Fred. There is a Fred Heller and son of the same name in Philly, but the ages are way wrong.You can access this census yourself for free at Family Search, if you want to poke around some more. _http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp_ (http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp)

I'm the one who posted the map lookup notice. Send along some of those names and I'll see if they're on my map. If they are, I can tell you how to get your copy, or I'll do the look ups for you, whichever you prefer.

Hi , Just read your info.. about mas. Do you know where you can find old maps of central pa. or even all of it say from the 1800's. Would be interested in finding what some of those counties and TWP's were named then. When doing old census, etc. there are names of places where they are living that no one now has heard of. Thanks in advance Peggy Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dustbunnytoo@aol.com> To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [PA] map lookups > If you want a good detailed map that shows every old little crossroads, I > would recommend DeLorme's one on Pa. You can find them at bookstores, Walmart > has ones for states close by, etc. Or write DeLorme Mapping, PO Box 298, > Freeport, Maine 04032. I don't know of anything that shows lost graves. > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > If your Pennsylvania ancestor was German or Swiss, check out the > Pennsylvania Dutch Family History website at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

Could someone please lookup the 1880 Philadelphia Census for a Frederick Helder and family? Frederick would have been around 21 years old. thank You Ron Elliott

My thanks to everyone for trying to read that census page. :>) >From: "D. Kohler" <dkohlerx2@adelphia.net> >Reply-To: PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com >To: PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PA] 1900 Luzerne CO- Help >Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:59:42 -0400 > >Hi, Tori: > >This is what I think I see: > >Series: T623  Roll: 1436  Page: 199 (Heritage Quest) >1900 - Dagobert St., 15-WD Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne Co., PA - 6/16 & 18/1900 >Carey, Alfred E. - head - w - m - 8/1866 - 33 - married 11 yrs. - PA/PA/PA >- laborer (colliery) >------- Christiana - wife - w - f - 6/18?? - 28 - married 11 yrs. - 1 >child/1 living - PA/PA/PA >------- Archie W. - son - w - m - 7/1890 - 9 - single - PA/PA/PA >Loveland, William - father-in-law - w - m - 11/1840 - 59 - married 35 yrs. >- PA/CT/PA >------------ Angeline - mother-in-law - w - f - 9/1845 - 54 - married 35 >yrs. - 7 children/5 living - PA/PA/PA > >Hope this is helpful. > >Debra > > >On Saturday, Sep 18, 2004, at 22:19 US/Eastern, tori counts wrote: > >>Hi everyone, >> I am hoping someone may have a place to view the 1900 census who has >>better visibility of the census page, than ancestry! I can't read what I >>want to see >> >> 1900, Pennsylvania, Luzerne County, other townships, ED# 184 page >>19B bottom of the page >> Carey, Alfred and household >> >>Many Many thanks! And anyone wanting help on ancestry, I can do :>D >> >> >>Tioraidh an drasda, >>Tori - shyfyre@msn.com >> >>Searching- COUNTS-(Coates, Crouch, Sartain, Pendergraf, Williams,Raper, >>Martin, McNiel), (Tn, AL, Ok, Ark, CA) >> >>HANCOCK-(Adams, Abbott, Allen, Burnett, Clifford, Counts, Fisher, Hoskins, >>Louden, Shepperd, Leach, Mitchel, Imel, Speaks, Speck, Sprunger, Tharp, >>Wheeler, Wright) (VA, KY, IN, CA) >> >>MCNIEL(Coates,Counts,Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon) (NC, TN, OK, Ark, CA) >> >>CAREY(Hancock,Catterton,Gibson,Dodder, Leach) (MD, PA, IN, CA) >>and any family connections. >> >> >> >>==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== >>Help your fellow researcher out when you can... You may be surprised >>by how they may help you. >> >>============================== >>Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >>Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >>http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >> > > >==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== >If your Pennsylvania ancestor was German or Swiss, check out the >Pennsylvania Dutch Family History website at: >http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/padutch/ > >============================== >You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from >http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > Tioraidh an drasda, Tori - shyfyre@msn.com Searching- COUNTS-(Coates, Crouch, Sartain, Pendergraf, Williams,Raper, Martin, McNiel), (Tn, AL, Ok, Ark, CA) HANCOCK-(Adams, Abbott, Allen, Burnett, Clifford, Counts, Fisher, Hoskins, Louden, Shepperd, Leach, Mitchel, Imel, Speaks, Speck, Sprunger, Tharp, Wheeler, Wright) (VA, KY, IN, CA) MCNIEL(Coates,Counts,Gaddy,Brown,Lindsey,Mason,Moon) (NC, TN, OK, Ark, CA) CAREY(Hancock,Catterton,Gibson,Dodder, Leach) (MD, PA, IN, CA) and any family connections.

One of the most helpful mapsites I have found on line is the US GNIS program at: http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form It uses maps "produced from the U.S. Census Bureau's Tiger Map Serv." In many ways its maps are superior to highway maps. To speed up searching, it categorizes over 60 "feature types." For example, villages, towns and cities are searched under the category "populated places." If you know the name of a graveyard, enter that in the first blank (but do not include the word 'graveyard' or 'cemetery'). Click on "feature type," and on the menu that comes up click on cemetery. Nelson R. Sulouff //////////////////////////////////////////////// ----- Original Message ----- From: MLINGENFELTER2@aol.com To: PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [PA] map lookups Could you tell me where I can find one on Pa. as I want to go to Cambria Co and it all the little places that used to be. Does your map show them, Lost graves of Allegheny for one, Appreciate what ever you can give me on find a map. Thanks Marge MLINGENFELTER2@aol.com

If you want a good detailed map that shows every old little crossroads, I would recommend DeLorme's one on Pa. You can find them at bookstores, Walmart has ones for states close by, etc. Or write DeLorme Mapping, PO Box 298, Freeport, Maine 04032. I don't know of anything that shows lost graves.

Could you tell me where I can find one on Pa. as I want to go to Cambria Co and it all the little places that used to be. Does your map show them, Lost graves of Allegheny for one, Appreciate what ever you can give me on find a map. Thanks Marge MLINGENFELTER2@aol.com

Someone asked me to find a little town for them on my map. I have three good maps (Ohio, New York, and Penna) that show every little tiny crossroads place imagineable. I would be happy to do lookups for anyone in these areas. Contact _dustbunnytoo@aol.com_ (mailto:dustbunnytoo@aol.com) .

_http://home.alltel.net/yoset/CCo/vital.html_ (http://home.alltel.net/yoset/CCo/vital.html) Try this site for birth info for Crawford Co. I have a Pa. map with every little tiny crossroads town name on in,and saw no Striansville.