----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Pellegrino" <joyce.pellegrino2@verizon.net> To: <lafinken@aol.com> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 1:49 PM Subject: Fw: [PA] Social Security question > My father died in 1963 at the age of 59. He cannot be found on the SS > INDEX, because I was told by SS he never collected. > My mother died in 1996 at the age of 87 and can be found, because she > collected SS. > Joyce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <LAFinken@aol.com> > To: <PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 7:01 AM > Subject: [PA] Social Security question > > > > If your person died but isn't on the SSDI, but you do have a SS# is it > worth requesting their application from SSA? > > > > She was born in 1867 died 1960. Filed sometime in the 1930's for a > number but wasn't on the SSDI index. > > > > > > Thanks for the input. > > > > Lindsey > > > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > > Keep informed of the latest news and new databases, webpages and mailing > lists at RootsWeb. Subscribe to the weekly RootsWeb Review. To subscribe, > start here: http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > >

In a message dated 9/25/2004 6:02:43 AM Central Daylight Time, LAFinken@aol.com writes: If your person died but isn't on the SSDI, but you do have a SS# is it worth requesting their application from SSA? She was born in 1867 died 1960. Filed sometime in the 1930's for a number but wasn't on the SSDI index. Absolutely! Not everyone with a number is on the SSDI list. Nor is everyone who received benefits. Since your person had a SSN, she applied for it, and it is that application you are after. Considering your person's age when SSA went into effect in the mid-1930's, she likely received something called Special J Benefits. SSA set a retirement age for the first time. Before that, there was no such thing as retirement, and a person worked until they died or became unable to work, in which case their families or their County took care of them. When SS began, there were many working people who were already at, near, or beyond, the designated retirement age of 65. These people were granted Special J Benefits, which were, in effect, Social Security for those already 65 and never contributed, or were too old/disabled to work the required quarters before retirement. My paternal grandparents received these benefits. It is interesting to note that the retirement age of 65 was set at a time when the average age at death was 64. Susan in Louisiana

If your person died but isn't on the SSDI, but you do have a SS# is it worth requesting their application from SSA? She was born in 1867 died 1960. Filed sometime in the 1930's for a number but wasn't on the SSDI index. Thanks for the input. Lindsey

Hi, Marlaina: When I entered the search terms (unionville bald eagle valley pennsylvania) onto Google's search engine, I found: http://county.centreconnect.org/locator/ default.asp?searchterm=Unionville+Borough This shows an Upper Bald Eagle Valley planning commission; Bald Eagle school district; in Unionville Boro., in Centre Co., PA. Hope this is of some help. Debra On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 12:43 7:11, Marlaina Fritz Barr wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to locate a place from my great Uncle's autobiography. He > wrote > that in 1867 the family moved to PA, Unionville, Baldeagle Valley. > I found > a Baldeagle in Clinton Co (they went to Clinton later) and a > Unionville in > Centre Co (they went to Centre also). Another Unionville in Union Co > (one > spouse is from Union Co). I'd sure appreciate finding the county so > that I > can find marriage records and census for the spouses my family married > during > that time. > > Thanks for any help, > Marlaina Fritz Barr > > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > Help your fellow researcher out when you can... You may be surprised > by how they may help you. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hello, I am trying to locate a place from my great Uncle's autobiography. He wrote that in 1867 the family moved to PA, Unionville, Baldeagle Valley. I found a Baldeagle in Clinton Co (they went to Clinton later) and a Unionville in Centre Co (they went to Centre also). Another Unionville in Union Co (one spouse is from Union Co). I'd sure appreciate finding the county so that I can find marriage records and census for the spouses my family married during that time. Thanks for any help, Marlaina Fritz Barr

I found some of the index and a lot of other great Philadelphia, PA information online for free... http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/ You can click on any Philadelphia, PA files from there. For all other counties in Pennsylvania you can go here and then click on the files you wish to see. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/ Good luck, Ella

Ella, I see you have a reference to Orphan' s Court- Philadelphia Marriage License Index 1885 to 1916. I was wondering if you could check for the names: George Duetsch and Catherine Galster (approx. 1885 to 1887) Could be spelled Dutsch and Catherine with a K also. Truly, Robin

Orphans Court - Philadelphia Marriage License Index, 1885 - 1916 BECHTEL, Maude F (ALBURGER) 1900 F 127765 I wonder if the above named are related in anyway to the following... I have an Adam William MARKER, born about 1849 in Philadelphia, married to Sarah RUTTER/RITTER born about 1851 in Philadelphia..daughter of my great great grandparents George and Emma RUTTER who were both born circa 1830 in Philadelphia, PA. Adam MARKERs parents were Robert MARKER and Mary ALBURGER. Robert's parents were Conrad MARKER and Martha Margaret ? possibly SMITH. Conrad's parents were Gottfried MARKER and Marie Magdalena SCHMID. Gottfried had a brother Johann Andreas (Andrew) MARKER who was married to Elizabeth KIELHAUER/KILLHOWER who married Samuel RAMBO, a direct descendent of the Swedish RAMBO Pennsylvania family, after Johann's death. If anyone has a connection or info I would love to hear from you. Good luck, Ella

The Chariton Leader, Chariton, Iowa thursday, December 21, 1905 MR. and MRS. A.J. PALMER and daughter, MISS MARY, returned Wednesday from Pennsylvania, where they had been visiting for the past three weeks among friends and relatives. Among the different places visited was Indiana County, Pennsylvania, which was the home of the father, grandfather and great grandfather of MR. PALMER. Near Blairstown, they visited a country school, pupils of which were all relatives of the PALMER family. One relative was living on a farm which has been in continuous possession of the family since 1709, and on which are bearing apple trees planted in 1800. MR. and MRS. PALMER visited Johnstown of notable flood history, and also crossed the Allegheny Mountains. This is their third visit, and perhaps the most enjoyable of any. -- ALBIA NEWS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Copied by Nancee(McMurtrey)Seifert September 23, 2004 http://www.rootsweb.com/~ialucas/Main.htm posted at this site with Nancee's permission.

Dear Folks, Sent for my relatives death record which I received and also is a list of names of interments made to the Registrar ending Sat. Dec 25,1869 Ann Kennedy30 yrs Ireland Ward 19 Ascitis Rosanna O'Neill 54 yrs Ireland Ward 19 Typhoid Joseph Donohue 2 yrs, 4 mo. 8 days Scarlatina born Phila. ward 26 Frank Donohue 4 yrs born Phila Scarlatina ward 26 Maggie Danagh 14 yrs typhoid fever born Phil 2 ward Mary O'Neill 23 yrs Pulmonary Consumption born Phila 19 ward Mrs. McNally 44 burns born Ireland 17th ward William Mcgarvey no age Phthisis born England this is all that I have on these names hope it helps someone regards donna luzzi

Does anyone have any more info on Frederick Neuhofer who lived at least part of his life in Pennsylvania? He was born in Germany in about 1842 and married Alice Eckert in Danville, Pa, . Their daughter Caroline was born in Danville in 1875. There was another daughter who is mentioned in her mother's obituary as Mrs. C. Platt. (If anyone knows more about her, she's another brick wall for me.) She shows up on a census as Lisy and was born in Cleveland about 1878. I have found a reference in FamilySearch for a Frederick/Frank Neuhofer born to Frederick and Alice Neuhofer in Cleveland in 1878. The name is so rare, I have to believe it is the same family. However no mention of this son appears in the mother's obit, so I presume he died young. Perhaps little Fred and Lisy were twins? I also presume Fred, Sr, died young (or they were divorced) for Alice later married Ernst Clausing. Fred and Alice are in the 1880 Cuyahoga census as Newhofer, but that is the only mention I have seen. There is an intriguing census entry for a Fred Newhoffer in Lorain in 1910, but there is a 5 year difference in the ages with Fred, Sr. There is also a Florence Kitsteiner mentioned in Alice's obit as a granddaughter. I do not believe this is Carrie's child, so she probably belongs to Lisy. Florence was born in 1900 in Ohio and died in Miami in 1975. I believe her husband's name was William. Can you help?

To the person looking for maps showing town names on old maps try this site: http://www.oldmapsetc.com/ John Patton

In a message dated 9/23/2004 6:55:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, lanelson@execpc.com writes: First you must have the actual date that the census was taken. This is an the top of the census page. Then the child would have been 10 months old on that date. Lafe --- Actually no--each census has an enumeration date and the data listed is supposed to be whatever was true on the official census date and not the date the census taker actually came around to the house. Joan

Is there a site to do marriage look-ups? I could use one also. If anyone can help out, John SHANE mar Norah MYERS. before 1885. His first<?> born was born 1886. Just a guess here. Thanks for any help, Doris

First you must have the actual date that the census was taken. This is an the top of the census page. Then the child would have been 10 months old on that date. Lafe > Linda, > > 10/12 means 10 months old out of 12 > > Robin > >

Linda, 10/12 means 10 months old out of 12 Robin

How would I, or is there someone who has access to older records who could tell me how to find a marrage ceticate for my gggrandparents, Im not sure how this was done then. My gggrandfather, came here in 1860, he was 21, in 1870 there is one child listed, in 1880 the son is listed as ten. The 1870 date I cant figure out, its 10/12 for the same boy. My gggrandmother died in 1884. So perhaps they were maried in 1869-1870....maybe 1868, my gggrandmother is listed as being 18 in 1870, so I guess Id guess 1868-69. There are different ages listed for every record for her. Its anna Burns to James Doyle, the family all belonged to St Anns Parish, but I dont know about her because she died so many years before hand. She died of TB, and I wondered if there would be any records on her with PA communicable disease if they recorded them, at that time. There are no records on her at all, anywhere and her grave is unmarked as well. Thank You. Linda Dougan. This all took place in Erie Pa.! They lived on Newman St, and E 5th st. Thanks again.

Good evening.........was wondering if someone could do a marriage lookup? Thomas Black age approx 26 (?) Mary Ann Cutshall (Cutchall) age approx 26 Marriage may have occured in the early 1840's. This family's first child was born in OH in 1842. Have check OH for their marriage....but are not found. Any help that you can provide would greatly be appreciated! Thank you, Linda

You can also order them directly from DeLorme's website. They have atlases and gazetteers for all 50 states. www.delorme.com Susan On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:03:44 EDT Dustbunnytoo@aol.com writes: > Sure wish I could help you, but I just have NY, Ohio, Pa. I can tell > you how > you can get similar maps to those I have for the states you want. > They are > produced by DeLorme Mapping, PO Box 298, Freeport, Maine 04032. > Phone 9207) > 865-4171. They are in book form, very large pages (I'm guessing > something like > 16x 11 maybe), and have very wonderful indexes. I like them because > they have > every little obscure place name and back road. I would highly > recommend them. > You might want to look in your local bookstore or Walmart. I see > them in > places like Borders and Barnes and Nobles, which seem to have them > for most > states. Walmarts seem to carry ones for their own plus adjoining > states. Hope > this helps! > ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today!

Anyone have a Mary Moyer married Samuel Mack, PA., 1846 by: Wm. Pawley, Minister. I have them listed in the: Penn., 12 July 1860 Census, page 97 Ruscombmanor in Berks Co., Post Office of Kutztown, PA. 756 756;Mack, Samuel 35 M laborer Mary 32 F Adrias 12 M Yessiah 10 M Samuel 6 M Elizabeth 4 F Franklin 2 M Lucy 1 F I need Moyer info, if anyone finds this familiar. Thanks. Lanice Green