http://www.pacivilwar.com/bates.html History of the Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-1865 has links to the searchable Bates' volumes. http://www.pacivilwar.com/cwparosters.html has a site search of PA civil war soldiers. Hope this helps Kathi > I think I remember a link to a searchable site for finding your family. > If I am correct, does anyone have the link? > Thanks, Doris > > > ==== PENNSYLVANIA Mailing List ==== > To contact the list administrator, send an e-mail to: PENNSYLVANIA-admin@rootsweb.com Direct any questions or comments of an administrative nature to the admin address and NOT to the list -- the list is for Pennsylvania genealogy discussion. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 9/26/2004 1:13:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, LAFinken@aol.com writes: Joan I saw the link on rootsweb clicked on it many times and it never took me to the pre printed letter as they say it should. Lindsey --- Lindsey- You first have to search on a name, and while viewing the search results you will see a link that says SS-5 Letter on the right side of the entry line. Click on it and you will see a letter that looks like this all ready to print: Date of request: 26 Sep 2004 Social Security Administration OEO FOIA Workgroup 300 N. Green Street P.O. Box 33022 Baltimore, Maryland 21290-3022 Please send me a photocopy of the actual application for a Social Security card (Form SS-5--Social Security Number Record Third Party Request for Photocopy) filed by the person listed below. I obtained this information from the Social Security Death Master file at RootsWeb.com, Inc. who obtained it from the Social Security Death Master file, originally compiled by the Social Security Administration. My understanding is that the fee is $27, when the Social Security number is provided or $29 if the Social Security number is unknown or incorrect. Enclosed is a check or money order for $___________, made payable to the Social Security Administration. Thank you for your assistance. MYERS, ANNA 044-22-0371 Birth: 02 May 1897 Death: Jun 1979 <----this is the name of the person I searched for and clicked on. Sincerely, Address: Daytime Phone Number:

For the most complete explanation of what you will find and what you won't in the Social Security Death Index, try the following link: * http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson10.htm *So far, I've not had a question asked that couldn't be answered here. Beverly -- Mailto:kngsldy@cableone.net Families are Forever!

Joan I saw the link on rootsweb clicked on it many times and it never took me to the pre printed letter as they say it should. Lindsey

In a message dated 9/26/2004 12:30:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, CougarToys@aol.com writes: Also, I just listened to a lecture this week by an archivist in the State Government (a nameless state so they won't be embarrased...LOL) who said the SSDI starts with 1960. So if people died before that, they will not appear. Likewise, I'm sure some of those who died before then never collected social security. --- That isn't entirely true as some people prior to 1960 are listed in the SSDI and but mostly the listings start with those who died 1962 or later when SSA began computerizing the records. A good explanation can be found here in the RootsWeb Guide: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson10.htm Joan

In a message dated 9/25/2004 6:01:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PENNSYLVANIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > If your person died but isn't on the SSDI, but you do have a SS# is it > worth requesting their application from SSA? It is if you think there will be information you don't know on their SS application i.e. Parents names, the address where the person lived when they applied, their date of birth, etc. Also, I just listened to a lecture this week by an archivist in the State Government (a nameless state so they won't be embarrased...LOL) who said the SSDI starts with 1960. So if people died before that, they will not appear. Likewise, I'm sure some of those who died before then never collected social security. Some probably had pensions. Retirement existed before Social Security but sometimes it wasn't very pleasant and sometimes, just like now, the people never really retired. They left this job and went to that one. Beth Cherkowsky eBay id = woadieland My eBay Store My website

In a message dated 9/26/2004 10:32:54 AM Eastern Standard Time, LAFinken@aol.com writes: My question this time is what form do you use to submit to SSA to request the original application of your ancestor. The form I need a copy of is the SS-5. --- Another option, if you find someone on RootsWeb's SSDI listings: http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ There is a link next to the listing where you can print out a letter requesting the SS-5 information. Joan

Hi Listers I belong to the OSU-NY obits list. The paper is The Times-Herald-Record of Middletown, Orange County, New York Hope these will be of some help for a researcher. = = = == = = = = = CATHY L. HERMAN Clearfield, Pa. Cathy L. Herman of Clearfield, Pa., died on Thursday, September 23, 2004 at Clearfield Hospital. She was 43. She was born on March 4, 1961 in Port Jervis, a daughter of Hazel (Hegarty) Coon of Clearfield Pa. and the late Glenn D. Coon. Ms. Herman was a private duty nurse's aide having worked with many families within the area during the past 7 years. In addition to her mother, she is survived by a son, Travis Herman at home; two brothers, Kim T. Coon and wife, Vickie of Mechanicsburg, and Kevin G. Coon of Clearfield, Pa.; a sister, Cindy J. Kozykowski of Clearfield, Pa., a fiance, Melvin Gosnell of Clearfield, Pa.; and several nieces and nephews. In addition to her father, she was predeceased by her husband, Larry Herman in 1989. Funeral services will be held at the Kevin A. Beardsley Funeral Home, Clearfield on Monday at 10 a.m. with Dr. Duane A. White officiating. Interment will follow in the Beulah Cemetery, Ramey. Friends will be received at the funeral home on Sunday from 2 to 4 and 6 to 8 p.m. and on Monday from 9 to 10 a.m. The family suggests that memorial contributions be made to Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, RD#3, Box 86, Philipsburg, PA 16866. On-line condolences or memory tributes may be sent to www.beardsleyfuneralhome.com. = = = = = = ---- MR. ANTHONY G. "TONY" KRUPOVCHIN Godeffroy, N.Y. Mr. Anthony G. "Tony" Krupovchin of Godeffroy, NY, a 39 year resident of the area, died Thurdsday, September 23rd at Bon Secours Community Hospital, Port Jervis with his family by his side. He was 89. He was born February 22, 1915 in Coaldale, PA the son of the late Anton and the late Mary Draczek Krupovchin. Tony retired from the Town of Deerpark and also worked for Channel Master in Huguenot. Before moving to this area he worked for 25 years at Woolworth's in Manhattan. An Army Veteran of World War II, he served as a S/Sgt. in the Fighting 45th Division, and was a member of the Milford American Legion Post, No. 139. He was also a member of the Leisure Seniors of Deerpark and the Deerpark Seniors. Surviving are his wife of 59 years Mary I. Ferrari Krupovchin whom he married on August 16th, 1945 in Blackstone, Virginia at home; daughter Erica Morrison-Brazitis & her husband Frank Brazitis of Belchertown, MA; two grandchidren: Lynne Raymer and her husband John of Belchertown, MA, and Robert G. Morrison, III of Belchertown, MA; a niece, Barbara Wlassek of Henderson, NV; also several other nieces & nephews. His good friend Ronnie Galletly & her husband Ron of Montgomery, NY also survive. Friends may call at the Gray-Parker Funeral Home, 100 E. Main St., Port Jervis on Friday, September 24th from 2 to 4 pm & 7 to 9pm. Funeral services will be held privately at the convenience of the family. Burial will be at St. Mary's Cemetery, Port Jervis, NY. Memorial contributions may be made to American Legion Post No. 139, Milford, Pa 18337 or Humane Society Of Port Jervis/Deerpark, 202 Route 209, Port Jervis, N.Y. 12771. Funeral arrangements are by the Gray-Parker Funeral Home, 100 E. Main St., Port Jervis. For information, directions or to send a condolence note to the family, visit www.grayparkerfuneralhome.com = = = = = = = Incoming/outgoing mail scanned by Norton 2004 = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

I think I remember a link to a searchable site for finding your family. If I am correct, does anyone have the link? Thanks, Doris

Lindsey, You can get a copy of the form off the internet. Just print it and fill it out. I did and got applications for 3 individuals

My question this time is what form do you use to submit to SSA to request the original application of your ancestor. The form I need a copy of is the SS-5. An article on the rootsweb site written by George Morgan in 1998 says request from SSA form L-997. When you go to the SSA website and type in form L-997 says not found. Anyone know the number of the correct form? Lindsey

Marg Appreciate your offer of help. I used to live in Lansdale and North Wales, so hi Neighbor. = = = = = = = = = = = = Pat C., BHCD Quakertown, PA US BLUROC1@worldnet.att.net = = = = = = = = = = = = = Incoming/outgoing mail scanned by Norton 2004 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ----- Original Message ----- From: MLINGENFELTER2@aol.com To: PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [PA] STEINER/SECHTAL/STROMP/MESSER/CROUL Pat, I will try, I live in Montgomery Co.[not far from you] It used to be Philadelphia Co. so see what ever o.k. Marge mlinger11@juno.com ______________________________

Thanks to all who answered in response to the Social Security question. Lindsey

One way of notification to SSA that someone has died is for the survivor to apply for the $250 lump-sum death benefit. Mary Ann Lubinsky

Pat, I will try, I live in Montgomery Co.[not far from you] It used to be Philadelphia Co. so see what ever o.k. Marge mlinger11@juno.com

In a message dated 9/25/2004 8:44:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, BLUROC1@worldnet.att.net writes: The SSDI list only carries the names of people who received payments from SS, i.e. retirement, disability, etc. See SSDI at familysearch --- Pat- The SSDI includes ANY death reported to the Social Security Admin and NOT just those people who had been receiving benefits. Joan

Hi again listers I am back for some information for a neighbor. I cannot vouch for the information but hope you will be able to help. Will give parents names and their children. I do not have dates for some, so help someone recognizes the names. The place is probably Philadelphia and surrounds. Many thanks in advance for any help. 1. Frederick STEINER, b.?-d.? married 1783 to Mary ?. 2. Samuel STEINER, b. 1784 Elizabeth STEINER, b. 1787 Mary STEINER, b. 1789 Jacob STEINER, b. 1792 John STEINER, b. 1794 married 1821 to Sarah SECHTAL, b. 1795 - d. 1843 Philadelphia Sarah STEINER, b. 1796 John STEINER, b. 1794 married 1821 to Sarah SECHTAL, b. 1795 - d. 1843 Philadelphia 3. Charles STEINER, b. 1822 John STEINER, b. 1829 Agustus STEINER, b. 1829 Henry STEINER, b. 1832 Jacob STEINER, b. 1836 - d. 1872 Married Amanda STROMP 1855 Edwin STEINER, b. 1837 Jacob STEINER, b. 1836 - d. 1872 Married Amanda STROMP 1855 4. Henry Fillmore STEINER, b. 1856 George Washington STEINER, b. 1856 - d. 1924 married 1890 to Catherine STROMP b. 1858 - d. 1924 Daniel STEINER, b. 1860 John Thomas STEINER, b. 1862 Charles Edwin STEINER, b.1871 George Washington STEINER, b. 1856 - d. 1924 married 1890 toCatherine STROMP b. 1858 - d. 1924 5. Robert STEINER, b. 1891 Flora STEINER, b. 1893 - d. 1947 married William MESSER Catherine STEINER, b. 1895 - d. 1950 Harry STEINER, b. 1899 - d. 1964 Anna STEINER, b. 1900 - d. 1952 Margaret STEINER, b. 1902 - d. 1966 George STEINER, b. 1902 - d. 1966 Mary STEINER, b. 1907 - d. 1979 Lillian STEINER, b. 1909 Thomas STEINER, b. 1911 - d. 1977 Edna STEINER, b. 1913 Jeanne STEINER, b. 1914 Flora STEINER, b. 1893 - d. 1947 married William MESSER 6. Merle MESSER, stillborn Edna MESSER, stillborn Ruth MESSER, stillborn Jessie MESSER, b. 1918 - 1981 married 1937 William Martin b. ? - d. 2004 Flora MESSER, b. 1923 married 1943 Herman CROUL Molly MESSER, b. 1925 married? Thomas MONAHAN I thank you all for reading this long email and hope you can supply my neighbor's son with some information. = = = = = = = = = = = = Pat C., BHCD Quakertown, PA US BLUROC1@worldnet.att.net = = = = = = = = = = = = = Incoming/outgoing mail scanned by Norton 2004 = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

That is why my Grandfather and Grandmother are not on it. Grandfather was 55 and Grandmother was 50 when died. = = = = = = = = = = = = Pat C., BHCD Quakertown, PA US BLUROC1@worldnet.att.net = = = = = = = = = = = = = Incoming/outgoing mail scanned by Norton 2004 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ----- Original Message ----- From: PENNSYLVANIA-D-request@rootsweb.com To: PENNSYLVANIA-D@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 6:00 PM Subject: PENNSYLVANIA-D Digest V04 #431

The SSDI list only carries the names of people who received payments from SS, i.e. retirement, disability, etc. See SSDI at familysearch = = = = = = = = = = = = Pat C., BHCD Quakertown, PA US BLUROC1@worldnet.att.net = = = = = = = = = = = = = Incoming/outgoing mail scanned by Norton 2004 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ----- Original Message ----- From: LAFinken@aol.com To: PENNSYLVANIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 7:01 AM Subject: Social Security question If your person died but isn't on the SSDI, but you do have a SS# is it worth requesting their application from SSA? She was born in 1867 died 1960. Filed sometime in the 1930's for a number but wasn't on the SSDI index. Thanks for the input. Lindsey ______________________________

In a message dated 9/25/2004 1:00:05 PM Central Daylight Time, joyce.pellegrino2@verizon.net writes: My father died in 1963 at the age of 59. He cannot be found on the SS INDEX, because I was told by SS he never collected. My mother died in 1996 at the age of 87 and can be found, because she collected SS. My paternal grandfather died in 1963, after having collected SSA for years, yet he is not on the list. His widow, who collected until her death in 1969 is on the list. My maternal grandmother was employed after her husband died in 1942, and she collected SSA benefits from her retirement until she died in 1960, but she is not on the list. Yet my great great uncle, who died in 1940, IS on the list. Go figure. Frankly, I think the reason people are omitted on-line has more to do with SSA having to manually input early data, than anything else. They haven't finished inputting the years prior to SSA computerization. Susan in Louisiana