Thanks, that is a good idea. Jan who hasn't even considered the scientific way in OK [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 10/9/06 9:43:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > I have a puzzle for all of you. It has to do with two CARNEY men that > I have yet to definitely connect, but who are very likely to be related > in some manner. > Find living male descendants of each Carney and test their yDNA is your most > promising strategy. > > Mel Bowman > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PENNSYLVANIA > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
I have a puzzle for all of you. It has to do with two CARNEY men that I have yet to definitely connect, but who are very likely to be related in some manner. Starting with Jacob SCOTT he had two lovely daughters (he had more, but for this scenario we are only going to discuss two of them). Those girls were Martha Ann SCOTT b. April 01, 1848 in Putnam Co., IN d. January 12, 1929 in AR. and her younger sister Malinda SCOTT b. April 28, 1850 in probably IN d. November 13, 1930 Milton-Freewater, Umatilla County, Oregon. 1. Martha married Jonathan (John) L. POYNER and they had a son named Jesse James POYNER who married Galeenah CARNEY. Galeenah's father's name was Chesterfield Monroe Carney b. March 1849 Port Royal, Montgomery County, Tennessee d. December 29, 1928 Ft. Smith, Sebastian Co., AR he was s/o Harry D. CARNEY and Sarah MURPHY. At age ll Chesterfield had disappeared from the face of the earth and didn't surface again for 32 years when he married my great grandmother Columbia Porter BRANHAM in 1892, Crawford County, Arkansas. In trying to figure out where he was I and other researchers have found his name mutilated in many ways, ranging from Carny, Corny,Carey, Corney, etc. On ancestry for the 1900 census the index shows him as Cluster F. Corny. I've found him as CM and CF as well, not to mention the possibility of the variations of Monroe (his middle name). One researcher recently showed up a Ches. Carey born PA (not TN) on the soldier's site on ancestry that is the right age to be my Chesterfield Carney, married to a Louisa Vickery in MO. Could he have gone to his northern relatives as a Union Sympathizer? He once told a grandchild that asked what he did in the Civil War that they put young boys in prison for stealing the horse's corn to eat. Was he imprisoned? That would be a long stretch, but Jacob SCOTT was in MO at one time. In that afore mentioned 1900 census Cluster F.(Chesterfield) is listed in the home of Mary ALEXANDER. Jacob Scott's second wife was Ellenore Ellen (ALEXANDER) COUCH/KUTCH. Yet another long stretch, but a similarity. 2. Malinda Scott married Samuel VANCIL, they had a daughter Anna Genetta who married Uzal Wesley CARNEY on October 12, 1898 in probably OR. He was b. 1874 in possibly IL or KY and died 1939 in OR. Uzal was the s/o Francis S. CARNEY and Martha Sophronia Perry d/o Uzal Perry. The Apr 1910 census lists Uzal as born in IL. It says his father was Ire-English, and his mother was born in IL. Sam and Malinda VANCIL were living with Uzal and Anna in Apr 1910 in South Milton Pct., Umatilla, OR Apr 1910 census South Milton Pct., Umatilla, OR family 210, Farmer, wheat farm The name Uzal has been found mutilated to Usual and the Hebrew spelling of it is Uziel or Uzeil (forget which ds said when he looked it up for me). Both Uzal and Chesterfield married the same generation of Jacob SCOTT's offspring (gdaughters). That's the tale I have so far. I feel these two men are related in some way, but where do I look next? Anyone have any suggestions? Jan who just knows that all of this ties together in a neat package some how in OK
Searching for info on this family, seems the name is German and sp several ways, however there are none of the names on any rootsweb boards so must be also another way to spell it too. If someone is searching this name prehaps they can help. Heres what I am looking for and info I have. Christian Smathers and Sarah Callihan [several ways seen to sp that too] Children of Christian Smathers jr & Mary Polliard [1 kid] Christian Smathers b Dec 21 1817 PA d Jan 12 1864 Christian Smathers jr was a soldier in the Civil War, 63rd PA, typhoid fever cause of death. buried Alexandria Nat'l Cemetery in Virginia + Sarah Callihan Strattanville, Clarion Co Jan. 14, 1841 b 1822 d May 13 1908 Parker Pa daughter of Thomas & Isabella McCreary Callihan. Sarah Callihan Strattanville, Clarion Co Jan. 14, 1841 b 1822 d May 13 1908 Parker Pa daughter of Thomas & Isabella McCreary Callihan. +2Dan Overheim ? maybe 1864? 1850 Farmington, Clarion, PA Christian Smethers 32 Sarah Smethers 28 Dewit Smethers 8 1842 Eliza Jane Smethers 5 1844 Delila Smethers 3 1847 Albert 1 1849 Thomas Callehan 62 1860 Cristean Sweathers 43 Sarah Sweathers 38 Clinton Sweathers 18 Eliza J Sweathers 16 Pelila Sweathers 14 Pelila is Pelila on the census but it is definitely Smathers Mary E Sweathers 9 James R Sweathers 7 Miles Sweathers 5 Sarah Sweathers 2 Issabel Sweathers 4.12 This could be son of Christian and Sarah Smathers he is living in Clarion Limestone PA Thomas Allison 67y md Barbara wife 52 md [Harriger] Sarah Harriger 25y housemaid S W Pa [not their dau] James Smathers 18y S W M Pa farm hand ** James Albert ========================================= Children Christian Smathers Jr & Sarah Callihan [four boys and 6 girls] 1Dewitt Clinton Smathers b abt 1842 Pa md Mary Haskett. 2 Albert Galliton Smathers b Sep 3 1844 twin d Dec 30 1861 3 Eliza Jane Smathers b Sept 3 1844 twin md Lafayette Fulton of Strattonville. 4 Delila Smathers died young. b Jan 15 1847 d. Aug 5 1861 5 Mary Ellen Smathers b Apr 6 1851 Pa D: 29 Sep 1920 Burial: Strattanville Cemetery md George Mifflin Dallas Johnson 10 Aug 1870 Strattonville PA b 4 Dec 1844 Clarion Co Pa Kate Smathers Pittsburgh Ward 4, Allegheny, PA ABT 1849 Pennsylvania White Female Bella and Lauretta both in same orphanage Kate close by working as a domestic 6 James Albert Patton Smathers b Feb 1852 living 1870 Thomas Allison also Sarah Harriger 25y 7June Rose Smathers b 1853 this is Kate? or died young 8Miles Leslie Smathers Nov 3 1855 might be him 1880 CENSUS Porter, Richardson, Nebraska Juleus ELMORE Self M Male W 29 IL Farmer TN KY Lidia ELMORE Wife M Female W 23 OH Keeping House VA PA Mertile ELMORE Dau S Female W 3 NE IL OH William ELMORE Son S Male W 10M NE IL OH H. W. WOLF Other S Male W 34 PA Farmer PA PA Leslie SMITHERS Other S Male W 24 PA Farm Hand PA PA 9 Sarah Lorette Smathers b 1858 in an orphanage 1870 Lauretta Smathers Allegheny Ward 1, Allegheny, PA ABT 1858 Pennsylvania White Female 10 Belle Smathers b Apr 22 1860 in orphanage w/ sis Lorette 1870 Bella Smathers Allegheny Ward 1, Allegheny, PA ABT 1861 Pennsylvania White Female This could be son of Christian and Sarah Smathers he is living in Clarion Limestone PA Thomas Allison 67y md md a Harriger related to Sarah Barbara wife 52 md Sarah Harriger 25y housemaid S W Pa dau/o Jacob Harriger & Elizabeth Smithers, dau/o Jacob James Smathers 18y S W M Pa farm hand [James Albert] the Leader Times newspaper from New Bethlehem, PA posted an article on the Soliders and Sailors Orphans Home in Dayton, PA. Listed were the following: Mary E. Mary Ellen Smathers b. 6 Apr 1851; admitted 31 Oct 1866 from Phillipsburg, PA; discharged 6 Apr 1867 to family home in Strattonville, PA (married to George Johnston), Mile L. Miles Leslie Smathers B 3 Nov 1855; admitted 31 Oct 1866 from Phillipsburg, PA; discharged 3 Nov 1874 to family home in Strattonville, PA, Isabelle Belle Smathers b 22 Apr 1860; admitted 1 Sep 1873 from P. & A.O. Asy(?); discharged to home in Parker City. According to my records, their father died of typhoid while serving in the Union Army, Civil War, in Alexandria, VA and is buried in the National Cemetery there 1864. After his death, their mother, Sarah, married Dan Overheim from Parker (City), PA. 1870 Sarah was living in Pithole, Venango, PA and the girls were placed in Clarion County, Strattonville [Dan and lst wife] 1860 Strattanville, Clarion, Pennsylvania Gender: Male Post Office: Clarion V Household Members: Name Age David Overheim 43 Catharin Overheim 37 lst wife Elezabeth Overheim 17 Susanna Overheim 14 Mary C Overheim 9 Sarah F Overheim 8 Daniel Overheim 5 Charles Overheim 3 << so we know Charles belongs to lst wife and by 1870 they had another son William born abt 1861 so Dan still md to lst wife 1861 ============================= acc/to this record Christian died in 1864, so looks like probably John in 1870-80 is Sarah's & Dan's son? 1870 Pithole, Venango, PA Daniel Overham Pithole, Venango, PA abt 1817 Deutschland White Male Sarah Overham Pithole, Venango, PA abt 1822 Pennsylvania White Female Sarah F Overham Pithole, Venango, PA abt 1852 Pennsylvania White Female Daniel Overham Pithole, Venango, PA abt 1855 Pennsylvania White Male Charles Overham Pithole, Venango, PA abt 1856 Pennsylvania White Male William Overham Pithole, Venango, PA abt 1861 Pennsylvania White Male John Overham Pithole, Venango, PA abt 1864 Pennsylvania White Male >> could be Sarah's ? Sarah Callihan Smathers m2 Dan L Overhine of Parker PA after Christian's death she died in Parker PA 1880 CENSUS Parker, Armstrong, Pennsylvania Dan L Overheim,self,63,born GER,blacksmith,father & mother born GER Sarah Overheim,wife,58,born PA,keeps house,father & mother born PA Charles Overheim,son,23,born PA,blacksmith Wm Overheim,son,19,born PA,retail grocer John Overheim,son,15,born PA ============================ After reading thru all that info........what I am searching for is Why did Sarah put these kids in the orphanage when she probably was already md to her 2nd husband? if any desc know? or anyone else familiar w/this family. Also trying to find out if John b abt 1865 is Sarah's son with Dan Overheim ?? I dont have a 1900 census for them. Looking for a marr rec for Sarah and Dan Overheim/Overhine Anyone familiar w/her parents Thomas Overheim, he was living with them in the 1850 census as 62y, prob wife was dec'd.
Hi all Emma Povah emigrated to Philadelphia, from Liverpool, England, she arrived on the 22 June 1914, and then i lost her. can any one help, she must of got married, are there any record on line ?. Emma was born in 1892 in Liverpool, her parents were Charles and margaret Povah. Any help would be very much apprciated i know it's a long shot. Regards Sue
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My Friends in Pennsylvania, With deep sympathy in this time of sorrow of this great tragedy in my former state, my heart and soul weeps with sadness. To your beautiful neighbors of Amish families, may you find solace and God's love guide you in His care during this time of pain. Sincerely, Lori in Arizona formally from Pa. Sent 10/2/06
HI Liz, I believe that I sent those Condolances to the beautiful Amish people and their neighbors. Sincerely, Lori in Arizona formally from Washingeon, Pa.
Check out www.cnn.com if you want to know about this terrible tragedy. Maureen, formerly from the Pittsburgh, PA area, now residing in Minnnesota -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paula Picken Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PA] LANCASTER TRAGEDY Jim, Yesterday a gunman took hostages in an Amish school in the town of Nickel Mines, killing five children and himself. Paula Lewis Picken On 10/3/06, Jim Stehr <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ok this is the second one that came threw, can you let us know what happen > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PENNSYLVANIA > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PENNSYLVANIA ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In a message dated 10/3/2006 7:58:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: To your beautiful neighbors of Amish families, may you find solace and God's love guide you in His care during this time of pain. How kind Nell, I live very near the site of the tragedy and have been looking to buy up there. It has been heart breaking, all of the school shootings are but to target the pacifists among us is bad. Eliz
Just go to Channel 60, they are having a complete up to date coverage of the Lancaster tragedy. In a message dated 10/3/2006 10:06:44 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Jim, Yesterday a gunman took hostages in an Amish school in the town of Nickel Mines, killing five children and himself. Paula Lewis Picken On 10/3/06, Jim Stehr <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ok this is the second one that came threw, can you let us know what happen > >
You can also go to CNN.com. They update through out the day everyday as changes occur. ---- Sidney Dreese <[email protected]> wrote: > There was a shooting at an Amish school. The Lancaster TV station has the > story. > http://www.wgal.com/index.html > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Stehr > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:54 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PA] LANCASTER TRAGEDY > > Ok this is the second one that came threw, can you let us know what happen > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PENNSYLVANIA > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PENNSYLVANIA > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
There was a shooting at an Amish school. The Lancaster TV station has the story. http://www.wgal.com/index.html -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Stehr Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 10:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PA] LANCASTER TRAGEDY Ok this is the second one that came threw, can you let us know what happen ********* Visit the threaded archives of this list: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PENNSYLVANIA ********* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Jim, Yesterday a gunman took hostages in an Amish school in the town of Nickel Mines, killing five children and himself. Paula Lewis Picken On 10/3/06, Jim Stehr <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ok this is the second one that came threw, can you let us know what happen > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PENNSYLVANIA > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
My Friends in Pennsylvania, With deep sympathy in this time of sorrow of this great tragedy in the Colonial state of my ancestors, my heart and soul weeps with sadness. To your beautiful neighbors of Amish families, may you find solace and God's love guide you in His care during this time of pain. Nell J. Nell Beck Truitt Oklahoma
Ok this is the second one that came threw, can you let us know what happen
My Friends in Pennsylvania, With deep sympathy in this time of sorrow of this great tragedy in my former state, my heart and soul weeps with sadness. To your beautiful neighbors of Amish families, may you find solace and God's love guide you in His care during this time of pain. Sincerely, Lori in Arizona formally from Pa.
Have any of your male Anderson's done the DNA test? My Anderson's are from Indiana and don't think we have a connection, but hoping that more male Anderson's would get the test so we can find more family connections. Thanks Eileen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Tom Baker Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 12:22 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Baker, Tom Subject: [PA] Anderson of York County, Pennsylvania I am pretty sure of the following lineage, but researching older census records gets hairy so I am wondering if anyone else is working on this line and wants to share information. I am especially interested in verifying lineage of the two John Anderson grandfathers. Any help anyone? Eva Irene Anderson b.Oct 18, 1900 d. May 10, 1975 (Lewisberry, York County, PA) Daughter of: Robert Gardner Anderson b. April 27, 1874 d. February 23, 1941 (Fairview Township, York County, PA) Alverna May Fencil b. April 4, 1873 d. July 13, 1936 Son of: Henry An
I am pretty sure of the following lineage, but researching older census records gets hairy so I am wondering if anyone else is working on this line and wants to share information. I am especially interested in verifying lineage of the two John Anderson grandfathers. Any help anyone? Eva Irene Anderson b.Oct 18, 1900 d. May 10, 1975 (Lewisberry, York County, PA) Daughter of: Robert Gardner Anderson b. April 27, 1874 d. February 23, 1941 (Fairview Township, York County, PA) Alverna May Fencil b. April 4, 1873 d. July 13, 1936 Son of: Henry Anderson b. about 1835 (Fairview and Monaghan Township, York County,PA) Possibly born in Adams County wife: Lydia Gardner Son of: John Anderson b. about 1811 (I think he was born in Franklin Township, York County, PA and then moved to Fairview and Monaghan Township, York County, PA) Son of: John Anderson b. between 1770-1780 (Monaghan and Franklin Township, York County, PA) Son of: Graham Anderson or James Anderson ??? (Monaghan and Franklin Township, York County, PA)
Hello All, I came across a couple of interesting items recently that I though might be useful to some of you. First a nice color map of PA showing all of the counties and the other was a book on Chambersburg in Franklin Co. that, near the beginning, lists all of the members of the PA Historical Society as of 1856. I found one possible ancestor of my own on the list (Chambers), now I just have to figure where, or if, he fits in! I scanned the first part of the book and the map and placed them on my web site at http://www.midatlanticarchives.com if anyone is interested in viewing them - the book is listed simple as "Chambersburg". Alan -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 9/29/2006
Thank you, Cassie Kate Ross --- [email protected] wrote: > Fort Reed > (1775 - 1778), Lock Haven > A settlers' fort evacuated during the "Big Runaway" > of 1778. > A few miles south of the present location of Fort > Indiantown Gap, in 1755, the house of Adam Reed, > Esquire, was turned into a fort. Reed used this > fort to protect the people of the countryside from > sudden Indian attacks. One might say that Adam Reed > was the first âCommanderâ of Fort Indiantown > Gap. > Ft. Indiantown Gap. Location: Annville, PA > > Kassie > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:15 AM > Subject: [PA] Request , please: where was Fort Reed? > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of > free safety and security tools, free access to > millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > free AOL Mail and more. > > > ********* > Visit the threaded archives of this list: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PENNSYLVANIA > ********* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com