on 8/22/01 6:03 AM, PENNINGTON-D-request@rootsweb.com at PENNINGTON-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > John Alan Pennington here. Eleanor, I don't think that Elmira (Elmina) Pennington, b. 22 June 1829, IL, was the dau. of Joel Warner Pennington and Elizabeth Smith. Joel and Elizabeth were my 3G-grandparents. I show 10 children for them. David A. was born 8 Oct 1828, and Mary Samantha was born in 1830. Elmira's birthdate is right in the middle of those two. While Elmira's birth in that time is possible, it seems unlikely, especially since the other kids were born two or more years apart. My sources for this information are not flawless, but those I have found appear to be in agreement. Regards, John