If it will make you feel better, I too have received double messages for days plus as of noon Monday could not connect at all. It looks to me like they could give their customers advance warning when they shut us down---I'm a novice at this and do not know quite what to do when I get absolutely nothing for hours. I too, heard the recorded messages but the time was much longer than they indicated. Maybe we're back for awhile. Brenda ------ Original Message ----- From: ginjonb46 Sent: Tue, Jul 31, 2001 2:56am To: <PENNINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [Pennington-L] Undeliverable Mail Please do not remove me from your list. I have been receiving less than 10 messages a day since July 26. It seems that MSN's servers probably have been flooded with mail, possibly from a virus or worm getting into subscribers' address books. I am fortunately not one of those people. My system is clean. When I spoke with an MSN technician earlier today I was told they are aware of the problem and are working hard on solving it and restoring full service. They are documenting reports of trouble called in by subscribers and forwarding them immediately to the supervisors to help in identifying the problem and hopefully to achieve a restoration of service. I had two messages which I sent yesterday and the day before.returned to me with the message "Undeliverable. The server is full." Today the 8 messages I received consisted of 4 messages and 4 duplicates of those messages! Please do not unsubscribe me. And please attempt delivery of my mail. Service may be restored at any moment. Thanks for your assistance in this frustrating time! Sincerely, Virginia Brown ginjonb46@msn.com ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== Please respect people's copyright protection and only repost or publish their info after getting their written approval.

I've received a few inquiries lately regarding the threaded archives... Rootsweb, our host, is upgrading the server and restoring the messages. We all hope this will be complete soon as the project has had the threaded archives down for about a month now. I'll keep you posted when they are again available. In the mean time, you can still search the archives by pointing your browser to http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/ Just enter Pennington as the name of the list, and away you goooooo... Steve P

Hi Barb, This is Cari of group 30. My husband is in group 9. Abel (1768-1847) and Christiana (late marriage to Sarah "Sally" Sanders also) Hampton Pennington & Nancy Winnett Prather Dent Minatree Pennington & Nancy Ann Wall James Charles Pennington & Louceneth "Sena" Waters Harley Lee Pennington & Zola Goldsmith (my G. grands) P.S. Barb (and others) I've been away from PC most of the time for 3 months. I'm trying to get back to all I owe notes to. Barb weren't you asking about Sizemore and Begley connections? I do have some in my line. Will try to dig through info soon. Cari & Bob in CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <keenebj@juno.com> To: <PENNINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: [Pennington-L] Had crash, need addresses. > If I have already sent this message to the Pennington list, please ignore > and delete. If not, I need a favor. > I had a kind of crash and lost over 2000 saved messages which contained > the addresses and Pennington research focus of many of the folks I've > talked with for the past couple of years. Would any folks I talk with > about our various lines, please send me a brief message just so I'll have > your address back? Thanks and sorry for the off-topic > message. > > Barb T > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives can now be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/pennington > or for a search engine try > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

If anyone is able to communicate with Virginia or any other msn Pennington researcher that uses MSN, let them know that they will not be unsubscribed automatically. I've tried responding to Virginia privately the last few days, when she first became aware of this problem, but all mail keeps being returned. There are a couple of other msn people on the list and I also get error messages regarding their service. Steve P Pennington listowner ginjonb46 wrote: >Please do not remove me from your list. I have been receiving less than 10 >messages a day since July 26. It seems that MSN's servers probably have >been flooded with mail, possibly from a virus or worm getting into >subscribers' address books. I am fortunately not one of those people. My >system is clean.<SNIP> >

Please do not remove me from your list. I have been receiving less than 10 messages a day since July 26. It seems that MSN's servers probably have been flooded with mail, possibly from a virus or worm getting into subscribers' address books. I am fortunately not one of those people. My system is clean. When I spoke with an MSN technician earlier today I was told they are aware of the problem and are working hard on solving it and restoring full service. They are documenting reports of trouble called in by subscribers and forwarding them immediately to the supervisors to help in identifying the problem and hopefully to achieve a restoration of service. I had two messages which I sent yesterday and the day before.returned to me with the message "Undeliverable. The server is full." Today the 8 messages I received consisted of 4 messages and 4 duplicates of those messages! Please do not unsubscribe me. And please attempt delivery of my mail. Service may be restored at any moment. Thanks for your assistance in this frustrating time! Sincerely, Virginia Brown ginjonb46@msn.com

If I have already sent this message to the Pennington list, please ignore and delete. If not, I need a favor. I had a kind of crash and lost over 2000 saved messages which contained the addresses and Pennington research focus of many of the folks I've talked with for the past couple of years. Would any folks I talk with about our various lines, please send me a brief message just so I'll have your address back? Thanks and sorry for the off-topic message. Barb T

New address: cher2001@inreach.com Old: cheraj@northcoast.com will be discontinued after today. Thanks, Cher Working on the Andrew Franklin Pennington/Martha Bradford line of NW AR. B. 1853, AR. Died April 22,1914 in Huntington,Sebastian County. Father said to be Andrew Pennington, Mother unknown. Hers: James Bradford, Mother Martha Unknown. Anyone know about this particular line?? Please write or post. Tks again. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PENNINGTON-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <PENNINGTON-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 3:01 PM Subject: PENNINGTON-D Digest V01 #126

Hello folks... I got a few new pics that I am sure everyone will be interested in. There is a pic of the Levi Pennington who married Rachel Cornett Combs. He is the son of Abel Pennington III (Group 30) and Elizabeth Bowling. In addition, there is a pic of his gravestone and that of his mother's as well. Check it out at http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/photographs.htm Let me know what you think....and as always...I would be happy to add more...hint, hint! :) Carmen Johnson Carmen Johnson PRA Associate Research Director - JFMF www.penningtonresearch.org PRA Group 7 Family Group Leader http://carmenj.my100megs.com/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm

Looking for information on any of these PENNINGTON'S out of TN to AR to I.T. to TX. 1850 Harden Co. TN. Samuel 38 Unk Emily P 36 Unk William A 12 TN Charles S 8 TN Sarah C 7 TN Mary J 5 TN James T 3 TN Samuel N 1 ½ TN 1870 Scott Co. AR William A 32 TN married an Elizabeth Thorn whos father was Hubard Thorn NC Living Wayne Co. TN Elizabeth 30 TN Nancy J 10 AR Charles M 8 AR Mary Ann 5 AR Emily E 1 AR 1880 Grayson Co. TX William A. 42 TN Elizabeth 40 TN Charles 18 AR Mary A (Mollie) 15 AR Married a David Finley, Grayson Co. TX 1885 and moved to Picken's Co. Chickasaw Nation, Woodville Dist. in 1887, supposed to have lived there for 14 years. Emily 12 AR James 10 AR Martha 7 AR Mattie 4 I.T. Thank you for any information on any person and on the location of family in I.T. Keith Walker, pokieoakie@aol.com.

At 04:35 AM 7/25/01 -0500, cnt1986 scribbled: >I am sorry to bother the list with this, but it does concern a hereditary >disorder. (snip background) >Does one have right to a medical record after the individual is deceased? i do believe that one is able to access medical records of deceased family members. i would imagine that you'd need to go through your current doctor to accomplish this. i know there are some weird pregnancy things that happened w/my mother (and her father's ancestors), as well as some neurological problems and clinical depression that ran through her pennington line as well. >Does anyone else on this list have a kidney/urinary tract problem in their >Pennington line? as far as i know...my penningtons are ok on that front. (penningtons decendant of edmund pennington of the soo line railroad in minneapolis minnesota, prior to that of ontario canada, and originally of chester, england.) julia horvath.

I don't know what group you belong to, but my brother passed away from kidney disease. It has been a few years and I would have to look up dates. I am having problems with kidneys now.

I am sorry to bother the list with this, but it does concern a hereditary disorder. I am curious about a kidney disease in my Pennington line. I do not know the name of the disease, this I am hoping someone can help. I know my great grandfather Cothern Pennington died of urinary tract infections. He had them most of his life if not all of it. I do not know if anyone prior to him had the problem. I know also that medical testing was not adequate during the early 1900s even into the 1970's. Two of Cothern's children had this problem. One, my grandmother Hattie. She had to have a kidney removed. Another, her brother Elmer also had to have a kidney removed. I have had problems all of my 32 years with kidney/urinary tract infections/stones and yes even my left kidney failing a few times. I still have my kidney though, as it does work more than it doesn't. I also have white patches on my right kidney, strange as I have never had problems with it only my left. I only learned recently that this problem was in our Pennington line. I have not seen my urologist since finding out but plan to as I feel he should know this information. However, I was hoping to know more about this disease before going to him. I know he would want a name. Does one have right to a medical record after the individual is deceased? Does anyone else on this list have a kidney/urinary tract problem in their Pennington line? Thank you Kristie

Gene, I watched and recorded your recent appearance on TechTV/Call For Help program. Your presentation was very interesting and informative. Congratulations! Virginia Brown ginjonb46@msn.com Ruth PENNINGTON, Levi PENNINGTON

Hi Groupies, I know it has been awhile since hearing from me and I apologize. I thought that you should be aware of a problem I encountered. So you will know what can happen. I have brought many books from Willow Book Company. Their service is great as well as the selection. I received mail from them regarding some books I was interested in. The mail, when it was opened was blank. I could not delete and further more it locked up my computer forever, nor could I receive or send mail. I could not go to start to close it down the computer nor get into my files at all. The only thing I was able to do was go on line. So after about a week of thinking. I did not have the 5.5 version of Outlook Express, I went to the site, downloaded the new version and Lord and Behold - it moved that message (off of the first to open line) and I was able to receive back messages. If I have any LUCK- it seems to be BAD. The day before this happened, I purchased a Zip Drive to take care of the large family files I have. Well, needless to say, My same LUCK, it was defective and was sent back to the manufacturer. I have yet to hear from them and it has been over two weeks. Soooo, I have many messages from a number of you that I need to get back on. My large files are making me panic and it has not been a nice few weeks. I thought I would share this with you so you are aware that a legitimate message can lock up your computer and the only other way I know of getting rid of it is-- to save your files and reinstall the software. Renee Group 9

Thought I'd share something I'd forgotten until I ran across it this evening....Lois DEEDS -- This very interesting tidbit was passed along to me from taken from the "Minnesota Genealogical Society Newsletter - "In the lower left hand corner of most old deeds, you will find signatures of two to four witnesses. The first one is always from the husband's side. The next one is always from the wife's side. That is to protect her 1/2 dower right under the law. Nothing you will ever use will give greater clues to maiden names than witnesses on old deeds."

have u all been to this site for researching PEN's in England....Cheshire BDM site- there are lots of us there. http://cheshirebmd.org.uk/births.html

http://www.cwgc.org/cwgchome.htm Sorry its too early in the morning .....The other site will get u there as well but that was one of my individuals....Just click on search or click or debt of honour register..The site is receiving 250,000 hits a week so sometimes access is slow or not at all..... cheers Julie

http://yard.ccta.gov.uk/ Sorry I forgot..... cheers julie

I have visited this site many times, but having the flu and a bit bored at home I looked through the site in a different way... I have only ever looked for people I knew the names of... Try looking through the site doing it in alphabetical order (it will take some time ) a page a day etc and the info that is on there for PENNINGTON researchers is incredible..There maybe sons or civilians that you didn't know about but you can piece in with the parents names on some ..have a look at this special one. The one under this was under PENNINGTON Australian nationality but proves Cheshire was his birth place Hope this can help someone... cheers Julie In Memory of T PENNINGTON Private 19288 2nd Bn., Border Regiment who died on Friday, 7th July 1916. Age 24. Additional Information: Son of Mr. and Mrs Thomas Pennington, of 22, Station Rd., Haydock, Lancs. His Majesty the King visited his grave and took his helmet in his hand which had a hole shot through it. Native of Lamberhead Green, Orrell, Lancs. In Memory of EDWARD PENNINGTON Private 3098 3rd, Australian Pioneers who died on Friday, 6th September 1918. Age 39. Additional Information: Son of Jonathan and Elizabeth Pennington. Born at Bowdon, Cheshire, England. . .

I'm not Julie, but typing "war graves site" into Google gives: http://www.cwgc.org/ which appears to be the site in question. Paul Pennington Augusta, Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Pennington" <jtp927@localnet.com> To: <PENNINGTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [Pennington-L] comm war graves site > > Hi, Julie; Did you forget the"URL"? Thanks, Tom