I must say some wise and humbling words by Carolyn. But the subject of the Maryland Penningtons brings up my query. Pennington Research Assoc lists as the head of Family Group #2 Robert Pennington b1754 on the Easter Shore of Maryland, who in 1785 moved to Centre Hall, Centre Co PA to be the local Methodist minister. I have obtained a gedcom for my gg-grandmother Hannah Pennington (1846-1888) which lists her parents as Robert Pennington b1806 in Centre Hall Centre Co PA and Hannah Rorabaugh b1809. This marriage is also recorded in Lewis Bunker Rohrbach's book 'Descendants of Hans Georg Rohrbach'. It seems quite likely that the 1806 birth of Robert Pennington was related to the earlier minister of the same name in the same town. I have been unable to this time to find any more information which could link them, or to find any more descendant information. Because Rev Pennington is listed at the head of the Family Group, it would be beleieved that the PRA does not know of the ancestors of Rev Pennington. However, the discussion here came back to the Penningtons of the Eastern Shore, and I was hoping that someone, especially Carolyn who spoke of her desire to create a web page for the Maryland Penningtons, might have some information that I seek. Thanks Brian Cartwright

Anyone know of an ELISHA PENNINGTON? He married my GGGrandmother, NANCY MCMILLAN PUGH after my GGGrandfather died in 1897. Nancy lived until 1930. We wonder if there were children from this marriage; these folks lived in Grayson Co., Va., in the Grassy Creek/Mouth of Wilson vicinity on the NC/VA state line. Any leads will be greatly appreciated. peg@comsource.net Phyll Parker

BRAVO!!! I would be most interested in your web page when it uploads. Please email me at JPennin100@aol.com. Snail mail: Jeanene Pennington 7730 Indian Springs Rd Dallas, TX 75248

Great commentary from Carolyn McDaniel. Discouraging, yes, but maybe people will be more cautious now. I descended from the Lee Co. VA Penningtons. I have run into several discrepancies between descendant trees from from various GEDCOM files, and have wondered just how much of the tree I'm building is based on fact. Thanks Carolyn, for speaking your mind. Linda Koenig

Carolyn, Please send me the details of your e-mail course. Dot

Dear Lori, Will and List Members, The Delaware Penningtons come from the Maryland Penningtons. The South Carolina/ Georgia, etc. Pennington descendants of Abraham come from the Maryland Penningtons. The West Virginia Penningtons come from them. What is needed with Pennington research is concerted, coordinated effort on them. There are a few Pennington researchers who HAVE been making such an effort for a very very long time. My own copying of Maryland information took two years at the archives in Annapolis. Sybil Hampton who has been earnesly working and coordinating the Maryland and Delaware Penningtons unfortunately is not on the internet. (Sybil's address: 1007 Ivy Lane, Waldorf, MD 20602.) Ric Blake publishes a WVA newsletter, and he and Sybil have published a book on their WVA families. The Maryland Penningtons have been so distorted and messed up in computer lists and gedcoms on the internet and in the LDS records I dispair that we can ever untangle them. A great deal of information which was speculative has been taken as fact and inserted into these lists. No evidence, no references, no attempt to research the lines has been done -- just copying and recopying the same mistakes from one list onto another. I just encountered another one on KindredKonnections. Abraham and John Pennington (John who lived near Northeast -- the northern part of Cecil County) were presented as father and son, when Abraham was John's brother as evidenced by John's will. There is no Maryland family group that has not been tainted by this sloppy, speculative, error-ridden, garbage genealogy. It has nothing to do with mistakes. Everybody makes mistakes. It is a matter of presenting something as fact when NOTHING has been done to verify that it is fact. Pluck a name out of a list and put him down as a son. Pluck a wife out of a family and put her down as a sister. It makes no sense. Robert Pennington married Mary RYLAND (Oct 13, 1716) and in 1718 was given a plantation by John Sr. and Alee Ryland "out of natural love for thare daughter of the marriage celebrated between Robert and Mary." (MD deeds, VOL III, p. 187) The ownership of that property and it's passing in the Pennington family continued throughout the 18th century. The subsequent deeds refer to the Rylands and to the relationships and so do the probate records. Yet in these spurious listings Mary HYLAND is given as Robert's wife instead of Mary RYLAND and so I suppose it will continue into eternity. The name Hyland Biddle came into the Pennington family when there was an intermarriage of Biddles/Beadles and Penningtons. It did not come from a marriage of HYLANDS and Penningtons. There are about fifty other things just like this. Next month I will begin teaching a genealogy course for the local college. If anyone is interested in an e-mail course, and how to do real genealogical research, please contact me. Lori, if you want to help solve the Maryland/Delaware puzzles, copy every Pennington, every variant, every allied name -- i.e., Biddle, Savin, Rothwell, Ryland etc., etc., etc. from the records you have, and post them to the list. Another person will then post the DATA he has copied. This is supposed to be what a research project is about. This is how we will overcome, piece by FACTUAL piece. Good genealogy comes out of people working together to compare notes, ideas and insights. This is the essence of what family is about, and the essence of how genealogy promotes networking, interaction and progress. Due to a variety of ills in my life -- financial, medical and computer -- which sometimes seem unending, I am unable to participate to the degree I'd like. I am going to try and set up my own webpage and put the MD info I've collected on it. I have a chronology I've put together along with a summary of each family detailing why I think what I do about each given name (in an effort to distinguish one from another and sort out who is really who.) My problem is that my computer broke down, and I've been unable to access my WordPerfect files since. In addition, I'm using a borrowed monitor. Then I broke my arm. But I do care, I do want to help straighten things, and I would love to participate to the degree I can. Your cousin, Carolyn

Lori, It looks like what you found makes it a great possiblity that the H. B. Penington in the 1850 census is the Hyland B. Penington, who was born 5 March 1777, son of Robert and Mary Penington and that the William Penington living next door was his son. I have Hyland B. Penington marrying Edith Henderickson 1 April 1799 by Jeremiah Cosden, dau of Augustine Hendrickson ( -1800) and Rosamond ( -1804), so that Elizabeth mentioned in the census would I guess be his second (or later) wife; (as you mentioned) Elizabeth Rothwell, who he married in 1816. I am sure you thought of all this. William would be the son of Hyland and Elizabeth. Have you checked the 1860 and 1840 censuses? I wonder of Mary J., William's wife (I assume) was the daughter of William J. Hayes with whom they are living? I would be interested in what sort of merchant H B Penington was. I appears that he had some sort of concern at Cecil Crossrords, Maryland [now Ceciltown] (South east corner), which he rented from Richard Savin. It was lat er sold to him (Penington), I believe, after Savin's death in 1800 (sale was in 1804). Vol XXV 1804-1805 {Land Record ABSTRACT} p. 98 Doctor Richard Savin, son of Augustine of CC, to Hyland Biddle Pennington in cons. $450 currency of USA, lying at Cecil Cross Roads in Sassafrass Neck at corner of Hyland B.'s store, boarding on the road leading to Bohemia Ferry toward Warwick near house now in tenure of John Loftis, willed by Richard Savin, dec. to nephew. Ip John Cox; Jno. Savin. S/Richard Savin; Rec. 27 May 1804 Any information about Mary Penington, sister of Hyland B. Penington, who married Richard Savin, son of Thomas Savin and Ann of Cecil County, Maryland would be appreciated. Or anything about any Savin or Benson of that area as well. Does anyone have the Cecil County, Maryland Peningtons in any kind of order? Mary the wife of Robert Penington who were the father and mother of Hyland, was possibly a Biddle, but have no proof as of yet. I do have some information about the Biddles as well, but unable to connect them directly. Will Brown

Hello List members, I was at the L.D.S. library yesterday and made copies of the Pennington/Penington marriages Prior to 1850 , Film # 6421 Marriage Record index p-s. I will be happy to lookup your marriages just let me know who you are looking for. Lori

Hello, I would value some other opinions on the info I located at the library yesterday. I now believe that there is a connection between my William Hyland Pennington & Hyland Biddle/Beadle Pennington - My William possibly a grandson of Hyland This is why I think so, I found the Hyland living next door to who I believe to be William & his parents in the 1850 Wilmington, De. Census. ( The William H. is shown as 3 years of age) I have recently located my William Hyland Penington' death certificate which told me he was born 20,Jan 1847 This is the census info: minus a couple of columns Dwelling # Fam.# Name Age Sex Occupation Value Place of birth 2077 2139 H.B. Penington 73 M Merchant 33,000 Maryland Elizabeth 60 F Delaware George W. 16 M Delaware Margaret Schofield 19 F Maryland Ann Docerty 20 F Ireland 2078 2140 William J. Hayes ? M Clerk Maryland Wiliam R. (or B.) Penington 28 M Merchant Maryland Mary J. 23 F Delaware Thomas 6 M Delaware William H. 3 M Delaware Hannah Clark 50 F England Unice White 18 F Ireland Harriet Unknown 16 F England I also found the marriages for Hyland B. to Elizabeth Rothwell Jan 10, 1816 , and William R. Pennington to Mary J. Clarke December, 7, 1843 Below is Most of what I had previos to finding this new info , I did not know William Hyland Pennington's parents names. Please let me know what you all think. Thanks Lori ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Name: William Hyland PENINGTON Sex: Male Individual Facts Birth 20 Jan 1847 in Wilmington, Delaware Residence Evanston, Cook County, Illinois (Mar 1864) (age 17) Description Fair Complexion, Hazel eyes, Brown Hair , 5 ft. 6 1/2 heigth, (15 Mar 1864) (age 17) Death 11 Jan 1932 in Washington State Soldiers Home, Orting, Washington (age 84) Burial 13 Jan 1932 in Des Moines, Washington (age 84) AKA Wiliam H. Pennington Military in 39th Illinois Infantry in the Civil War Marriages/Children 1. Augusta MacGregor COUSINS Children Adelaide Rebecca PENNINGTON (1875/76-19 Dec 1959) Mary Emma PENNINGTON (23 Apr 1869-12 Oct 1943) Carlos Alden PENINGTON (-bef 25 Sep 1951) Kenneth PENINGTON (-) Robert PENINGTON (1871-1925) Birth1, 2,3 Description2: Burial: Undertaker:R.D. Borden, Orting, Washington, 3 Military2: William was a member of thr Regimental Band, He was also listed as being the Company Bugler at Bermuda Hundred in Virginia where he was stationed. According to the History the musicians were also stretcher bearers and often served as medics.So William probably did not actually take part in fighting. His unit served at the Siege Of Petersburg, a major battle. The casualties from his unit were significant, particularly after William joined in 1864. Despite the fact that he was a likely medic, being at Petersburge was definitely in great danger as people were often killed simply living in the trenches. Williams Regiment the 39th was one of the lead units blocking Lee's retreat from the Appomattox, they got to witness the Surrender of General Lee. Sources 1. 1920, Washington, Skagit County, Census. 2. Muster Sheet. 3. Washington State Death Certificate

I haven't received a Pennington Digest for days now, is it possible I've been removed from the subscriber list? Linda Koenig

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that my online database for the Adkins and related families has been updated. I now have over 8600 people in my entire database. The other families contained in the database include CHANDLER, HAGER, PENNINGTON, SIAS, STOWERS, WALLS, and YEAGER. To view my database see this homepage: http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jjadkins/genealogy/HTML/surnames.html Let me know if you have any questions or comments. James +----------------------------------------------------------+ | James J. Adkins II jjadkins@hiwaay.net | | GenWeb Volunteer: Lincoln County, WV | | List Owner: ADKINS-L@rootsweb.com | | | | http://fly.hiwaay.net/~jjadkins/genealogy/ | | | | 4015 Apollo Drive Huntsville, AL 35805-5601 | +----------------------------------------------------------+ | Researching: | | Adkins, Burns, Hager, Pennington, Sias, Walls, Yeager | +----------------------------------------------------------+

I am descended from Edward Pennington,Barrow in Furness Lancashire,England, now Cumria Co. Have not made any direct connection to Muncaster Penningtons but looking for whatever info available. My Edward Pennington born about l750. Had a daughter Jane Pennington who married an Edward Stephenson. Would be interested in whatever info you have on the family. Thankyou.

Maxine Friedly wrote: > > Donald, > > Thanks for the reply to our discussion. When I can get away I will try > to go to Frankfort to find the item you mentioned. I live about 16 > miles from downtown Frankfort. I assume it is at the KY Historical > Society's Library at the Old Capitol Annex. The Archives are on a > connector road so I will try the downtown location. > > Quoting what Bud Bolling, our president of the Bolling Family > Association said: "Some of the best researchers in the business > (including the three members of our 'Benjamin Committee') have been > working for years to find authentication regarding the parents of > Benjamin Bolling (1734-1832). Billie Bocetti and her colleagues have > rooms full of documents, but no one has absolute proof of parentage." > > If this group cannot come up with the proof, we may be doomed to never > know for sure. They are working on other lines to see if a link can be > found. > > Are you a descendant of my line of Penningtons? I have information on > them but I do not have proof. It was given to me. > > I have Jesse Bolling's Rev. War record. > > Thanks again for the information. > > Maxine I will try this again. Wrong address the first time. mf

Donald, Thanks for the reply to our discussion. When I can get away I will try to go to Frankfort to find the item you mentioned. I live about 16 miles from downtown Frankfort. I assume it is at the KY Historical Society's Library at the Old Capitol Annex. The Archives are on a connector road so I will try the downtown location. Quoting what Bud Bolling, our president of the Bolling Family Association said: "Some of the best researchers in the business (including the three members of our 'Benjamin Committee') have been working for years to find authentication regarding the parents of Benjamin Bolling (1734-1832). Billie Bocetti and her colleagues have rooms full of documents, but no one has absolute proof of parentage." If this group cannot come up with the proof, we may be doomed to never know for sure. They are working on other lines to see if a link can be found. Are you a descendant of my line of Penningtons? I have information on them but I do not have proof. It was given to me. I have Jesse Bolling's Rev. War record. Thanks again for the information. Maxine

A question - From Marvin Jones' book Some Descendents of Ephraim Pennington, he lists my ancestor, Joshua Pennington, on the muster rolls of Capt. Enoch Osborne's militia company from (I believe) Montgomery Co., Virginia for the years 1777, 1781 and 1785. As this was during the years of the Revolutionary War, am I to assume then that Joshua was a veteran of the war? Does anyone know how I can find out if Osborne's company saw any action? Would he, as a member of a militia and not the continental army, be recorded in National Archive pension records? Just curious. I have not gone this far back with any ancestor, save one, but information on that Rev. war record was supplied by another researcher. Wilfred Pennington unclwil@midwest.net

Thank you!!!!!!! I'll check there :-) LauraDee

---------- > > Hello Maxine, > I have been following the discussion on this subject and > mentioned it to a researcher in NC. She is a descendant of > Micajah and said there is a professional, certified gen. report > in Frankfort,KY. , downtown that discusses the link between > Mary Pennington,Jesse Bolling and Pocahontas. She says > that Jesse first signed up for the Rev. War in Wilkes Co. NC. > Hope this points things in the right direction. > > > Donald > Pennington I had found this gedcom about two years ago on Compuserve, but lost it when swithing computers. It now appears on Kay Livermore's user page at Family Tree Maker, www.familytreemaker.com/users/l/i/v Brian Cartwright

Hello Maxine, I have been following the discussion on this subject and mentioned it to a researcher in NC. She is a descendant of Micajah and said there is a professional, certified gen. report in Frankfort,KY. , downtown that discusses the link between Mary Pennington,Jesse Bolling and Pocahontas. She says that Jesse first signed up for the Rev. War in Wilkes Co. NC. Hope this points things in the right direction. Donald Pennington

I'm relatively new to genealogy so I'll start with my great grandfather, Levi Talbot Pennington. I know that he lived in Indiana, possibly Spiceland, and was with the Quaker faith. I also now the names of his children: Elgar, Everett, Leslie, Agnes and Irene. Any info concerning this line would be appreciated. Thanks! William Pennington(bpboston@mindspring.com)

In regards to Paul Pennington's post: How many children have been attributed to Ephraim (V, born 1725)? I know from Marvin Jones' book that Richard (of Hannah Boone fame) and Timothy are listed in a tax record of some sort as his sons. Further, in Capt. Osborne's militia rolls, there is a Joshua (this is my line) and a Robert that are also suspected as being sons of this Ephraim. Are there more. William, yes?no? Wilfred Pennington unclwil@midwest.net