Just to step on in here. Sometimes a name, and especially a middle name, can be a friend or someone in the community that was admired. My gr grandfather Penningtons middle name was Boles, and I ain't found Hide nor Hair of a Boles in the family except that they were a part of their community. So sometimes it was someone that helped the family out or well even delivered the baby. Of course it could be like an in-law in the family. Sometimes that happened. Just thought I'd add that. Thanks ;) [email protected] wrote: > Steve, Do you have the children of John Pennington & do you know if Barry is > a common name in family. My great grandfather was John Barry Pennington born > about 1834 by census in AR. in TN. In his second wife's obituary this is > also sustained & verified. The Barry was passed down in family from him thru > my grandfather, my uncle & brother. Any help would be greatly appreciated, > thank you for your help. > > Your cousin Dick Pennington > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > The Pennington Research Association Web Site > http://penningtonresearch.org > for subscribe and unsub instructions, > follow the links to e-mail group.

Hi everyone, I got my copy of "Pennington Pedigrees" today, Friday, December 10, in Orange, Texas. Thank you, Pam MONTGOMERY Pugh Orange, Texas PRA Group 6 [email protected]

Al, A couple more conflicts here.. I find in "Virginia Marriage Index, 1740-1850" by Jordan Dodd et. al., a marriage between Joseph Pennington and Nancy Pennington on 14 Feb., 1811, in Sussex Co. The same book also lists a marriage between Croshor Graves & Rebecca Pennington on 18 Nov., 1826, also in Sussex Co. As this is a secondary source there may be errors in it.... but it makes me question what you show below. And just to document in the archives for future researchers and anyone else following this, you've agreed that John (1764-1823) was the 6th child of Elizabeth & Joseph Pennington rather than being the 6th child of JG Pennington. Steve P Group 10 jmatth98 wrote: <SNIP> > John Pennington, 1764-1823, of Mecklenburg, VA. was the sixth child of > John George Pennington. > John married (1) in 1786 to Sally Graves and had 8 children: > 1. Patcy, 1788- > 2. Thomas, 1790- > 3. Nancy, 1791- > 4. David, 1793-1832 > 5. Henry, 1795-1849, married Lucy Graves Adkins > 6. William Graves, 1798- > 7. Richard, 1800- > 8. Rebecca J. (Pennington), 1802- , married Joseph L. > Pennington. > John married (2) in 1817 to Temperance Parker and has 2 children: > 9. John Joseph Parker Pennington, ca 1819- > 10. Robert Simpson Pennington, Ca 1819- <SNIP>

On Thu, 09 Dec 1999 22:56:43 -0800, you wrote: > In the past three or four years I have yet to find anyone researching the Isaac Pennington/Agnes Brown (Martindale) line. There was a lady inquiring about the Joseph Pennington/Martindale line a few months back, we didn't make a connection but I did send her what I had gathered on that line. There was also a young lady researching Pennington's in Moniteau Co,MO., a few months back, but we failed to make a connnection. You can probably find both messages in the Archives. It appears to me there are only four maybe five lines that are actively exchanging information. Wanda Pennington Parker Associated with group #23

In a message dated 12/10/1999 10:36:53 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << There are lots of Penningtons buried at the Flag Spring Church cemetery just east of California MO, >> Please forgive terrible format in the email I just sent. Also, I need to correct the location of Flag Spring. It is WEST of California! Debra Claussen

In a message dated 12/10/1999 9:25:32 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << There was also a young lady researching Pennington's in Moniteau Co,MO >> Well, I'm not a YOUNG lady by any stretch, but I *AM* researching Penningtons in Moniteau Co MO ;-) My line is: 1) Levi Pennington (b.abt 1758 Rowan Co NC d.12 Aug 1808 Spartanburg SC). Married Elizabeth Beeson abt 1780. 2) John Pennington (b.abt 1789 Randolph Co NC d.abt 1859 Simpson Co, KY). 3) Levi Pennington (b.1829 Simpson Co, KY d.1900 Moniteau Co, MO). Married Sarah J Smith-Beard on 01 Jun 1852 in Simpson Co KY. 4) Little Berry Pennington (b.16 Sep 1865 Moniteau Co MO d.31 Jul 1955 KCMO). Berry married Bertha Steinhauer Abt. 1889. 5) Virgie Minnie Pennington (b.28 Jun 1891 Moniteau Co MO d.Aug 1975 New Mkt MO). Virgie married Elmo T. Nelson 14 Apr 1909 in Clarksburg MO. 6) Emma Lucille Nelson 7) Jo Ann Crawford (my MOM) This is not a very prolific line. Many babies lost at birth and in 1st year. Virgie Minnie was only surviving child of Little Berry. Emma Lucille was only child of Virgie. And my Mom was the only child of Emma Lucille to have any children. There are lots of Penningtons buried at the Flag Spring Church cemetery just east of California MO, including some I haven't connected with yet. Have found lots of surviving Crawford cousins in Moniteau County (mainly in California MO), but nary a single Pennington cousin. If you're out there, PLEASE give a holler! Debra Claussen

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B31DD5EE9CF69722DEE61D01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Wanda, Gotcha; Our GGgrandfather was Jefferson B. Pennington was born in 18 05 according to his death certificate . Still searching for Isaac Pennington & Agnes Brown ( matindale) but Sorry no luck. vigeo --------------B31DD5EE9CF69722DEE61D01 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vigeo.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for George & Viola Ell Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vigeo.vcf" begin:vcard adr;dom:;;2121 Erlon St.;Adelanto, El Mirage;CA;92301; n:;Viola ELL x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:VIGEO version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] x-mozilla-cpt:;0 tel;home:760 388 4922 fn:Viola ELL end:vcard --------------B31DD5EE9CF69722DEE61D01--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------417CBA0696370F7969B0435B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am searching for any rcords on Isaac Pennington @ Agnes Brown ( Martindale) . Agnes @ Martindale had two children that I know of William & one female grave ,charmichel. Second she md. Isaac pennington had two Children, Isaac brown Pennington md Sally Childress 1829, Mary Freeman in 1818 or vis versa.. Thank you vigeo --------------417CBA0696370F7969B0435B Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vigeo.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for George & Viola Ell Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vigeo.vcf" begin:vcard adr;dom:;;2121 Erlon St.;Adelanto, El Mirage;CA;92301; n:;Viola ELL x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:VIGEO version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] x-mozilla-cpt:;0 tel;home:760 388 4922 fn:Viola ELL end:vcard --------------417CBA0696370F7969B0435B--

Just a quick note. I have fixed the Census info on the Group 7 page so everyone can read it. Hopefully I'll be adding more info soon. If you would like to look at the info for Group 7 go to the Pennington page below and then click Pennington Data. You will have a choice be NC and VA. If you have info that I can add...let me know and I will do so. I've made it so those who do not have Excel 2000 can read the data. Let me know what you think. Carmen PRA Group 7 Leader Pennington Page: http://members.xoom.com/carmenj/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm Home Page: http://members.xoom.com/carmenj Genealogy Page: http://users.lewiston.com/carmenj

Hi, I have this same group of Penningtons and Harpers. I have a few things I can add. > 4. John George, 1722-after 1797 John George Pennington definitely died in 1797. His will is dated 2 Jan 1797. Will was admitted to Court 10 April 1797. John George Pennington's will only mentions a daughter, Martha. I did gather enough information to prove that this is Martha Harper if anyone is interested. Martha Pennington, according to my records, was born 1768. She is listed as age 82 on the 1850 census. On the 1860 Mortality Census, she was listed as 92. According to that census, she died March, 1860. Reginald, I also have John Harper (m. to Frances) having sons Wyatt and John ( married to Martha Pennington). Question: Did you ever find a source for giving that John (m. to Frances) the middle name of Peterson? I still find nothing to indicate that fact. The first time I see a John Peterson Harper is the son of John Harper (m. to Martha Pennington). I'm thinking that the child, John Peterson Harper, may have been an adult before the father, John Harper, died. In county records, to keep them straight, the youngest would be called Jr., not matter if the middle names were the same. As long as they both went by "John" they would be Sr. and Jr. I have a lot of information, but no middle name Peterson for the oldest John Harper. Regarding the William Pennington that married Celia Smithson. Mecklenburg Co. Deed Book 20, p. 447 shows Drury & Benjamin Pennington acting as Commissioners for the Court to sell the Estate of William Pennington, dec'd, which was lately held in dower by Druselly Murrell, lately Druselly Pennington. This was in 1824. The Mecklenburg co. marriage records show that Celia Pennington married William Murrell 6 Feb. 1811. This would give us a death date for William Pennington, before Feb. 1811. (I just didn't see anything definite as for a death date for him in going through records quickly). I, too, am interested in information regarding the maiden names of some of the wives: John George Pennington, m. to Mary ??? Thomas Penenton m. Mary (Allen?) John Harper m. Frances ??? Hope we can all find some answers. Sue

Hi Al, Your Genealogy of Thomas Pennigton II descendants was interesting to me. I have a few comments and questions. My 3G Grandfather was WYATT HARPER who married MARY M. PENNINGTON. Wyatt Harper was the son of John Peterson Harper and Francis (Peterson?). MY RECORDS SHOW THAT HE WAS THE BROTHER OF JOHN HARPER WHO MARRIED MARTHA PENNINGTON? (Martha Pennington was the Aunt of Mary M. Pennington) Pennington Information sent me from Steve Privett, has Mary M. Pennington as tthe daughter of William M. Pennington and Drusilla Smithson. William M. Pennington was the son of John George Pennington. These records show the children of William M. Pennington and Drusilla Smithson (Pennington) to be: John Pennington Benjamin Pennington Charles S. Pennington Clement S. Pennington Nathaniel Pennington (married 24 Aug 1824 Martha Lucy Overton) MARY M. PENNINGTON (married 30 Jul 1799 Wyatt Harper) Nancy Pennington Patsy Pennington (married Henry Lester) Sarah (Sally) Pennington (married 22 Dec 1812 John Cook) Elizabeth Pennington married march 1808 Ephrim Drum wright) Your records show that William Pennington, Sr and Celia Smithson had a son WILLIAM PENNINGTON JR and Two daughters. The record from Steve Privett did not have a son named William. DO YOU KNOW WHAT RECORDS SHOW A SON NAMED WILLIAM PENNINGTON, JR?. I see that your ancestor was JAMES PENNINGTON the son of Thomas Pennington II and MARY (ALLEN?), and the brother of John George Pennington. Your records also show that the wife of John George Pennington was MARY PARE. The Pennington web site http://www.penningtonresearch.org/researchaids/famgroups/fg10.html suggests that his wife's name was MARY SMITH. However in the same web page Mrs. Lillian Stamp, a descendant of John George Pennington, states that a correction should be made because MARY SMITh, the daughter of John and Paulina Smith ,was the wife of James Pennington, SR, the brother of John George Pennington. However Mrs Stamp did not indicate what Mary's maiden name might be. SINCE THIS JAMES PENNINGTON IS YOUR ANCESTROR, HAVE YOU FOUND MARY SMITH TO BE THE WIFE OF JAMES PENNINGTON? DO YOU KNOW WHAT RECORDS SHOW JOHN GEORGE PENNINGTON'S WIFE WAS MARY PARE? I would appreciate your comments on the differences between these records. Sincerely, REGINALD L. VASSAR 3950 DAUPHIN PKWY ERIE, PA 16506 E-MAIL: [email protected] Web Site: http://www.angelfire.com/va/eriehome/index.html

Al, Thanks for replying. First off, I don't know if Im related to Gertrude Green!! I can only trace my Greens to my 4th grgrandfather, John Green of NC, he died in TN, and his descendants moved on to MO, where they have been ever since. Secondly, I have been in contact with a researcher in Sussex Co, who has researched the Pennington family. I went to Sussex to see a distant cousin of mine, MOSS family, this researcher has done most of the research for my cousin. My cousin is descended from JOSHUA MOSS m. SARAH PENNINGTON. Joshua's father was Henry MOSS, and Henry's father was JOHN MOSS (d.1765) m. MARY??? This researcher told me that MARY's (d. 1775) maiden name was Pennington, and that she was the daughter of John Pennington, and Mary Pare. Well I went over and spent 3hrs with her and we worked and worked on the problem, and she couldnt find where she had gotten the info that Mary's maiden name was PENNINGTON. She is 85 yrs old, and is one sharp lady! But she couldnt remember where she found it. She conceded that she may be wrong! So I came to the conclusion that MARY's name is still ??!! It could be Pennington, and it might not be! But we figured out dates and John Pennington and Mary Pare were too late to be the parents of Mary ?? that married JOHN MOSS. But it could be another Pennington girl. We found one born in 1736, but that would make her only make her 39 when she died, and she quite a good number of children, its not entirely impossible, but heck, I dont know!!! Justin

Al, Have you been able to confirm the info from PP 1 & PP3 that you posted? It seems that many of the dates differ by a couple a years in PP11 which isn't a major concern. But an issue that I'm curious to resolve is the apparent conflict with John b abt 1764 who married Graves and Parker. In PP11, I believe it states that this John was the s/o Elizabeth and Joseph Pennington rather than John George Pennington and Mary Pair (Pare) The same article in PP11 says that David, s/o John George "probably never married". I also show that in PP11, John George's wife is listed as Mary Smith yet in PP17 there is some evidence to support Mary Pare as his wife. I've not seen the PP17v2 article. Could you share what that evidence is, or anything else you know on the subject. I've not worked much in this area to get more concrete sources other than PP, but it's these types of conflicts in the PRA publications I'd like to see work out. I'm still reviewing the rest , but these are some good issues to get resolved if we can. Steve P

Hi, all, I just realized I made a statement in my last message that should have been prefaced by "probably" instead of presented as fact. IN THEORY, Ephraim of NC, progenitor of Group IV, is PROBABLY or MAY BE the 5th generation descendant of Ephraim of CT, but it hasn't been accepted by PRA, and is not documented, and very well may not be the case at all. Sorry! Cheers, Katherine

Group 10's Thomas Pennington, II, ca 1682-1728, of Southwark Parish in Surry County, VA. married Mary (Allen?) and had 7 children: 1. Thomas Pennington, III, 1713-1772 2. William, 1715-1784 3. Edward, 1717-1752 4. John George, 1722-after 1797 5. Mary (Pennington) Walker, ca 1723- 6. James, 1725-1803, Mecklenburg, VA, my ancestor 7. Benjamin, ca 1727-after 1793, Harrison County, Indiana, Modell Burt's ancestor. Thomas Pennington III, 1713-1772, of Albemarle Parish in Sussex County, VA. married Rebecca (Pare) or Parr, daughter of William and Rebecca Pare. PP2-3, pg. 3 They had 6 children listed in the Parish register: 1. Faithey, 17344-1797 2. Mary, 1736- 3. Howell, 1742-1819 4. Joel, 1744- 5. (Rebecca?), 1747- 6. William Thomas, 1753-1810 Rebecca Pare, Charles Williams and Nathaniel Holt were Godparents in 1758 for James Pare, son of William Pare, Jr. and wife Jane. Thomas III was a good friend of my ancestor, Matthew Hubbard. They were Godparents for each other's children in Surry and then in Brunswick County, VA. John George Pennington, 1722-1797, of Mecklenburg County, VA married Mary (Pare) daughter of John and Mary Pare. Eight children were: 1. William, 1759- , married Celia Smithson 2. Jane, ca 1761- , married James Connell 3. Martha ca 1763- , married John Harper 4. Sukey, ca 1765- , married James Nash, ca 1785 5. David, ca 1767-1807/08, married Mary Smith, daughter of John and Paulina Smith (also my ancestors). 6. John, 1764- , married (1) Sally Graves (2) Temperance Parker 7. Ann Marshall (Pennington) Oslin, 1771- , married Isaac Oslin PP1-1, pg. 59 PP3--2, pg. 52 John George Pennington was surety for wedding of Martha Pennington to John Harper in 1810 Mecklenburg. I think Wyatt Harper may be a son of John Harper. There are Clements in our family. John Pennington, 1713-1766, called "The Carpenter" of Sussex County, VA. son of Edward Pennington, Sr. and wife Tabitha (Rowland?) lived in Hunting Quarter Swamp on today's Sussex-Surry County line. John married Mary, daughter of William Pare, SR. and wife Rebecca. They had five children: 1. Agnes (Pennington) Johnson, 1739-1810 2. Joshua, 1741-1768 3. Marcus, 1744-1772 4. Sarah, 1750- , married Joshua Moss PP1-3, pg. 19 5. Rebeckah (Pennington) Waddell, 1753- , married Benjamin Waddell. This family moved to North Carolina in particular Warren County. Sussex Will Book B, page 77. Edmon Pennington, 1715-after 1741, of Surry was the third son of Edward and Tabitha Pennington. He married Sarah (Bird?) ca 1740 and had a son William Pennington, 1741- . William Cocke, Mrs. Elizabeth Willie and Timothy Ezell, Jr. were Godparents for William Pennington, 1742, in Albemarle Parish. Edmon Pennington, Hannah Pennington and Sarah Bird were Godparents for Hannah Hancock. This family was related to Hannah (Boone) Stewart Pennington of Group 4/8. PP1-3, pg. 37. John Pennington, Jr. ca 1721-1764, of Sussex, VA. was the eldest son of John Pennington and Phyllis (Forte?) of Albemarle Parish. John Jr. married Anne and had 8 children: 1. Joseph, ca 1739- 2. Jesse, 1740- , whose Godparents were Hannah Pennington, Robert Hancock & Thomas Wrenn. 3. Lucy, 1741- 4. Lewis or "Aris", 1743- , Godparents Thomas Pennington, Thomas Brewer and Mary Bailey. 5. Sarah, 1746- , Godparents were David Stokes, Mary Hubbard, my ancestor, and Rebecca Pennington. 6. Mary, 1748- 7. Frederick, 1751- 8. Lucretia or Ceclia, 1755- whose Godparents were Moss Pennington, Elizabeth Pennington and Anne Dansey. Of special interest is John Pennington, Jr.'s will- PP2-3, pg. 3 and Sussex Will Book B, pg. 78. Apparently 3 Pare girls married Pennington men, all brothers, cousins and sons, etc. PP1-4, pg. 55 Sarah (Pennington) Moss, ca 1725-after 1773, of Surry married 1769 to Joshua Moss and moved to North Carolina. Five children: 1. Peggy (Moss) Harrison, 1793- 2. Monroe Moss 3. Edmund Moss, 1779-1827 4. Polly (Moss) Hawthorne, 1800- 5. Susannah (Moss) Loftin, 1802- William Pennington, Sr., 1759- , eldest son of John George Pennington and wife Mary, listed in 1782 Mecklenburg County, VA. census. PP1-3, pg. 19. William, Sr. married Celia smithson and had a son William, Jr. and two daughters. John Pennington, 1764-1823, of Mecklenburg, VA. was the sixth child of John George Pennington. John married (1) in 1786 to Sally Graves and had 8 children: 1. Patcy, 1788- 2. Thomas, 1790- 3. Nancy, 1791- 4. David, 1793-1832 5. Henry, 1795-1849, married Lucy Graves Adkins 6. William Graves, 1798- 7. Richard, 1800- 8. Rebecca J. (Pennington), 1802- , married Joseph L. Pennington. John married (2) in 1817 to Temperance Parker and has 2 children: 9. John Joseph Parker Pennington, ca 1819- 10. Robert Simpson Pennington, Ca 1819- DAR application papers for Belle Winfree Moss Gatewood. PP1-4, pg. 56 1810 Sussex census. Justin, are you related to Mrs. Gertrude Green? Need your permission to publish queries in Pennington publications. Please reply by e-mail. Al Matthews

Chuck, With this family, I wouldn't rule out the X Files theory if I were you. <G> I agree that the Timothy-Ephraim naming pattern is certainly suggestive. However, as I have said many times, I don't have any "real" hard data on the family before Riggs Pennington (son of Timothy of Group IV). I think the 1759 date of birth for your Timothy seems awfully similar to "ca. 1749" which I have for "my" Timothy. I have no idea where that figure came from originally, and why it isn't rounded off to 1750 or 1745, for instance. It looks suspiciously like one of those "must have been" dates you see in WFT, which can be so misleading at times. If Ephraim of NC was born in 1725, and if he removed from PA to NC ca 1750, and if Timothy was born in PA (as my family tradition holds), then certainly 1749 seems reasonable. I've seen the date "ca. 1748" for Richard's birth, too, so if Richard was the eldest and all the other "ifs" are accepted, then 1749 it is by default. (Looks like I talked myself into that, doesn't it?) In my database there's a Joshua b. ca 1755 (probably in NC or VA) as a possible son of Ephraim of NC (father of Timothy & Richard of Group IV, who actually was probably born in NJ, and moved first across the border to eastern PA and then to NC/VA ca 1750). And then I show a son named Timothy (among others, including another Ephraim) listed for Joshua. Does this strike a bell? These names came from a pretty reliable source -- Marvin Jones' book "Some Descendants of Ephraim Pennington of NC..." which is highly regarded, but putting them in Ephraim's family might have been a leap on my part. Marvin was rather conservative in his book about stating that Joshua was a son of Ephraim and brother to Timothy & Richard because he didn't have strong enough evidence to state it as more than a "probably" I think. (It would be best to refer to the book itself, but it's late and I've got a busy day tomorrow, sorry.) However, in a recent email to me Marvin said he's currently investigating the Ephraims again after a hiatus, so maybe he'll turn something up soon. *** caution - speculation ahead *** My own theory of the origin of Ephraim of NC is that he is descended from the Ephraims of New Haven, CT & Newark, NJ, and that the first American Ephraim ("Ephraim of CT" who was a founding member of the New Haven Colony) was related to Sir Isaac Pennington, the Puritan Lord Mayor of London, father of Isaac "the Quaker" -- possibly his cousin, son or grandson of Sir Isaac's uncle William. I think it's possible that Sir Isaac was connected to the Muncaster Penningtons, but I don't know if there's any proof of that. Sir Isaac's grandfather William lived in London, as did his (Sir Isaac's) father, Robert Pennington. *** end total speculation *** My opinion is that your Timothy is in fact a different person from Group IV Timothy, but they may well both be descendants of Ephraim of CT. Ephraim of NC was the 5th Ephraim in that line, and there were probably other cousins that we haven't tracked down yet, possibly because they moved south to VA before E. of NC did. Incidently, a son of my gggg grandfather Riggs Pennington (Group IV Timothy's youngest son) married a McAllister, too. That was Elijah Pennington who m. Ellen McAllister in Hot Springs, AR after meeting her on the way from IL to TX with their caravan. Their youngest son, Robert Elijah Pennington, is the author of one of the letters my grandmother acquired now in my posession, and the recepient of the other one written by his cousin, Stephen Austin Hackworth. These letters have a lot of family history in them that has been some of the basis for my speculations, including the notion that Timothy was born in PA and either he or his son Riggs spent time as a boy with relatives in NJ. Katherine

>Dear Group, > Please allow me to introduce myself. I am Charles B, >Pennington III and am a new subscriber to this list. > >I am from the Pennington Line of Timothy Pennington and Mary Fullen >Pennington of Lincoln County Kentucky. They are my gr,gr,gr,gr grandparents. > >Their son Ephraim owned the Whitley House in Crab Orchard Kentucky, which >today is a Kentucky State Shrine. > >I am interested in trying to attach myself to an established Pennington >Group but it appears that our branch is groupless at the moment. > >I would be most interested in corresponding with any other descendents of >this line of Penningtons. > >Sincerely >Charles Pennington Ah, ha! The "other" Timothy in KY! I'm very happy to hear from someone with info on this family. As you may know, there was a Timothy Pennington who lived in Barren Co., KY who is thought to be the son of Ephraim of NC and brother of Richard P. who married Hannah Boone Stewart, but there have been "rumors" of another Timothy in the same time and nearby, so it's sometimes difficult to sort out who was who, or even if they were different people or not. With the name Ephraim appearing among your Timothy's descendants it's tempting to think that maybe, just maybe, there was a close relationship or even identity between the two Timothy's in late 18th cent. KY. Or it's even possible that your Timothy is the one who was Richard's brother, and not mine, although that's not very likely given the fact that children of "my" Timothy and Richard kept in touch for a generation or two, and some moved around in each other's footsteps as they migrated north and west. Timothy & Richard who were sons of Ephraim are thought to have been born in PA, moved to Rowan Co., NC with father Ephraim, then after the Revolution (when they were both in Capt. Enoch Osborne's militia company, along with other Penningtons), Timothy and later Richard moved their families to south central KY. The next generation in my line (Timothy's son, Riggs) moved to Crawford Co., IN, several counties in IL (Franklin, Knox & McDonough) and finally to Washington Co., TX, spending about a year on the road in that final trek. The 12-wagonsful of pioneers stopped in MO and Hot Springs, Arkansas on the way for varying periods in 1836-37. Family tradition says they arrived in Washington Co., TX, near Independence, a week or two after the Battle of San Jacinto. The letter I have from one grandson of Riggs to another talks about Timothy, and that he was born in PA, but doesn't mention his wife's name. I've been told he was married to Susannah "Nancy" Riggs, but aside from a court record in KY with the names of Timothy & Susannah Pennington that I've only heard about, I don't know where the information about Timothy's wife's name is documented. Do you have dates and places for your Timothy family you'd care to share with us? What about other children besides Ephraim? Cheers, Katherine http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~kwc <-- NEW location genealogy/family history http://www.cd-info.com <-- The CD Information Center http://www.cd-webstore.com <-- Information products about CD Technology Listowner of HACKWORTH-L, BOYNTON-L & CASHION-L surname discussion lists at http://www.rootsweb.com (list subscribe/unsubscribe forms available in genealogy website) Glad to be a Rootsweb Donor

On Wednesday, December 08, 1999 Kathern Cochrane [email protected] wrote "Ah, ha! The "other" Timothy in KY! I'm very happy to hear from someonewith info on this family. As you may know, there was a Timothy Penningtonwho lived in Barren Co., KY who is thought to be the son of Ephraim of NCand brother of Richard P. who married Hannah Boone Stewart, but there havebeen "rumors" of another Timothy in the same time and nearby, so it's sometimes difficult to sort out who was who, or even if they were different people or not. With the name Ephraim appearing among your Timothy'sdescendants it's tempting to think that maybe, just maybe, there was aclose relationship or even identity between the two Timothy's in late 18thcent. KY." ………… ect ect ect Dear Katherine, the earliest ancestor of my line is an Ephraim Pennington born about 1740 who lived in Montgomery County Va. He married a girl named McAlister whose given name is thought to be Sallie. She bore him one son and died shortly after his birth. This son's name was Timothy Pennington He was born in 1759 and died in 1801 at the age of 41. This Timothy married Mart Fullen of Rockbridge County Virginia on Nov. 10 1785. Mary Fullen was the sister in law of Col. William Whitley the Semi- Famous Frontiersman as her sister Esther had married him at the age of 15 some years before. Timothy and Mary migrated to Lincoln County Kentucky in the late 1700's where Col. William Whitley had established a fort known as Whitley Station There they raised a large family of seven children including an Ephraim who became a Judge. and James whose son, John, had Pennington, California named after him. I have a pretty complete history of this family from this point up to the early 1900's if anyone out there is interested. The strange habit of naming boys Ephraim and Timothy has continued up until today, as my own favorite uncle is Timothy Pennington of Frankfort Kentucky who is alive and well as I write this. The point that I am trying to research is who was Ephraim's (the Ephraim born about 1740 mentioned above) father. The family history as set down by Ephraim Pennington "The Judge" states that his Grandfather Ephraim (the 1740 guy) was supposedly the son of a English Sea Captain named Joseph Pennington who was a younger son of The Lord Muncaster of Muncaster Castle. This Joseph was supposed to have migrated to Pennsylvania It actually says the word supposedly in our family history, I guess this is sort of like being Virtually Positive. To be honest with you I don’t know how much stock to put into this English Seas Captain Story. It is recorded in our family history as mentioned above and Ephraim "The Judges" Son, Timothy M. Pennington, did in fact correspond with the last Baron Muncaster around the turn of the century and they were trying to figure out if they were related Ephraim Pennington was a Judge and I can't imagine that he would make this up or that he would have even have known that there was such a place as Muncaster Castle unless members of his family had told him so. This was early 1800's when just owning a book was a big deal, hardly like today when you can just web surf over to Muncaster.Com ( actually http://www.muncastercastle.co.uk ) and check things out. Personally I believe that my Pennington line is related to the Group 4 Ephraims and Timothy's who are in turn related to the group 1 Ephrams and Timothy's from New Jersey. I find it hard to believe that people from four or five different States with the same last name would just spontaneously start to name there children Ephraim and Timothy, like something out of an X Files episode unless they were related. I wait someone's hopefully enlightened response Sincerely Yours Charles B. Pennington III [email protected] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dick, I don't have any info on the descendants of John Pennington I referenced as s/o William M Pennington and Drusilla Smithson. Nor do I have anything concrete that shows the Group 10 Penningtons of Sussex Co moving into TN or AR even though there are some suspicions that are being further researched. I checked the Group 10 Penningtons which are my group and were from Sussex, and I don't find Barry as a common family name. I do have however 28 John Penningtons in the file. Further review of my master index of Penningtons, that include many other groups, only shows one Barry and no John Barrys. There are over 300 Johns in this index which include 10 John Bs. The closest John B was born abt 1837 and was married to Mary Glenwaters. My master index doesn't include much more than b, d, and spouse, but if this is a possibility, let me know and I'll dig out the file and she what else is there on this John B Pennington. [email protected] wrote: > > Steve, Do you have the children of John Pennington & do you know if Barry is > a common name in family. My great grandfather was John Barry Pennington born > about 1834 by census in AR. in TN. In his second wife's obituary this is > also sustained & verified. The Barry was passed down in family from him thru > my grandfather, my uncle & brother. Any help would be greatly appreciated, > thank you for your help. > > Your cousin Dick Pennington > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > The Pennington Research Association Web Site > http://penningtonresearch.org > for subscribe and unsub instructions, > follow the links to e-mail group.

I just received my copy of the Pennington Pedigrees today, 7 December 1999, in Kettering, Ohio. Just a note to say thanks for all the effort and hard work put into this organization. I know we aren't perfect, but at least we are trying. Flo Warner