Dear Mel, Thank you very much for the info in your e-mail 8 Dec. 1999. It fills several holes in my Group 10 Pennington line. There was a large Mathews family in Brunswick County, VA. who we thought were related to my Matthews family in Surry County, VA. Never knew how it came to be. My gr,gr grandparents were Phillip Pennington, ca 1755-1803 and Patty (Floyd) ca 1760-1797 of Mecklenburg County, VA. Both Patty and Phillip were deceased by 1803, as were all their parents. So there was no one close by to relate the family history to Phillip's 6 children. 1. Lt. Drury Pennington, married (1) 1809 Mary Quarles (PP1-4, pg. 20), (2) 1823 Nancy Conner and (3) 1833 to Mary Oslin. After Phillip's estate was closed in 1811, Drury and his oldest sister, Mary, moved to Gibson and Maury County, Tenn. 2. Mary (Pennington) Westmoreland ca 1789- 3. James Pennington, ca 1790- 4, Frances (Pennington) Lett, ca 1791 5. Benjamin Pennington, ca 1792-1834 6. Peggy (Pennington) Hubbard, ca 1793-1835, married Capt. Ralph Hubbard of Mecklenburg County, VA. in 1814. Anything you can add to this data will be greatly appreciated. May I have your permission to publish your 8 Dec. 1999 posting in our Pennington publication? It may bring forth more information. Please send me an e-mail saying so. Thanks, Al Matthews [email protected]

Steve, I do not have either PP 11 or PP 17-2. I have no information. ALM

Dear John, John the publication is wonderful. It is obvious that you did a great deal of work on it. Now that I think we ( my son and I ) know how to the computer and the kind of information that you need, I hope to be of more help to you in the next PP. Best wishes, Al Matthews

My family came from Pennington in Furness. The book, These Are Ours, written by Robyna Ellyn Jackson Robinson gives our Pennington heritage and is available through the Library of Congress and the DAR. Our ancestor is Elijah Pennington. -----Original Message----- From: William Pennington [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 9:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PENNINGTON-L] Muncaster pictures website My thanks to Steve for posting the URL for the photographer of the Muncaster pictures. I had lost it for several months. Since this URL is now available, anyone who wants can check out the pictures and save the ones they want without any sending or receiving of files. The site is excellent with not only beautiful pictures but wonderful descriptions as well. This should be easier for everyone. Enjoy. Here is the URL again for those that missed it when Steve posted it: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Zone/1854/castle/muncaster.html William Pennington Group 3 ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== The Pennington Research Association Web Site http://penningtonresearch.org for subscribe and unsub instructions, follow the links to e-mail group.

Happy holidays and best wishes for a new Millennium! (Did I spell that right?)

Under businesses 1910-1920 Carroll Co, MO: Under Theater it list 1911 - Pennington Opera. Does anyone have anymore information on this? Wanda Pennington Parker

A while ago a friend sent me information about the Pennington School in New Jersey, thinking that I would be interested in a school that had the same name as I have. Apparently, this school was founded in 1838 by the Southern New Jersey Conference of the United Methodist Church. I've only been on this list a few months but have not come across any reference to this school which is located in Pennington, New Jersey. Does anyone have any links to this school? And was it named after any one Pennington. the information I have on the school doesn't elaborate on the founder or founders. I am fascinated by places named after our Pennington ancestors - I'm currently trying to find out more about a place in Natal, South Africa also called Pennington. Regards, Lana Pennington

Hi Folks, Does anyone have any info on a Rhoda Pennington who married William Sparks, Sr. ca 1808 Putnam County, TN? Wm Sparks is said to have died Oct 26, 1871. This is for a request from a friend of mine. Barbara Temple PRA Group 12 Leader Group 32 Member

Steve Privett wrote: >> >Bill and everyone else.. > >Carolyn was NOT removed from this list. She choose to unsubscribe several >months ago. > >You seem to be mistaking this list for the PRAmembers list which she was a >recent subscriber to. Therefore please direct any comments you have on the >subject to the pramembers list. > >Steve P >Pennington listowner Hmmm!! It appears I was also in error with this regard. My apologies for sending my previous message to the wrong list. (It certainly is confusing having two!) Katherine Cochrane

Dear Pennington cousins, Let's step back a little bit and examine the facts as objectively as possible. This list was started and is still maintained by Steve Privett, who also posted the first PRA website at his own expense and continues as the major technical and a frequent content contributor to both. The PRA basically "took over" both of them, with Steve's compliance and only a minor amount of friction that was resolved privately. Since they were both established to support PRA, of which Steve is a long-time member and strong supporter, and since they both clearly appeared to be official or unofficial publications of the PRA, having PRA Board oversight is probably appropriate. By working within the organization, in a (hate this word, but here it is anyway) proactive way, Steve has made a major contribution both to the PRA and to the researchers who use the facilities he has provided. Carolyn has also made some positive contributions, especially in raising the issues of what genealogical scholarship entails (although she is not the only person who has done that), but instead of working with the organization, she chose to try to destroy it, and she has made repeated vituperative attacks against, among others, Steve Privett. She was invited to be a member of the Research Committee, but when it appeared that she was not going to run the show, and she was not going to be the only "expert" around, she quit, and has persisted in also making repeated public verbal attacks against the Research Director, Gene Pennington, who tried to persuade her to stay on and work with us. She apparently prefers to criticize instead. There is no rational reason to suppose that Carolyn will change her abusive ways. She has promised to do so, and has broken those promises. Furthermore, her obvious attempts to persuade people to leave PRA and start another group (with her as the leader, presumably) and to intimidate those who disagree with her and say so out loud, as well as the fact that many people who do not know all the facts take her accusations at face value, make it apparent that if she was continued to be given a public forum on this list, she would use it to do whatever she could to destroy the very organization that provides that forum. For PRA to do that would be self-destructive. The organization has a right to protect itself from someone who only wants to hurt it. Carolyn is free to start her own group and email list if she likes, and no one in the PRA will try to prevent it. Her previous posts to this list were never censored, even when they were inflammatory and abusive. Part of being a list owner includes having to make tough decisions to prevent abusive behaviour by some list members against others on the list, and the PRA Board appropriately removed Carolyn only after repeated warnings in order to prevent a complete breakdown of civility here. This statement is my own personal opinion, and does not represent the Research Committee or the PRA. Katherine Cochrane

I'm sorry! I didn't know that Steve, but wouldn't this be of interest to all Pennington researchers, not only members of the PRA. Steve Privett wrote: > William Pennington wrote: > > > Bill and everyone else.. > > Carolyn was NOT removed from this list. She choose to unsubscribe several > months ago. > > You seem to be mistaking this list for the PRAmembers list which she was a > recent subscriber to. Therefore please direct any comments you have on the > subject to the pramembers list. > > Steve P > Pennington listowner > > > Hi Cousins, > > When I first discovered the Pennington list 3 years ago and began > > the search for my ancestors, I submitted a query to the list. One of > > the first that responded was Carolyn. Her response not only broke down > > my brick wall but had many inspiring things to say about genealogy. > > Although I'm descended from the well documented Group 3, her words kept > > me interested. With the rest of my family thinking me a "nut" for this > > interest, its safe to say that without her input I would probably not be > > on the list still or have joined the PRA just this year. I think > > Carolyn was unjustly removed from the list. I do not like her "rants" > > at times. Also I have disagreed with her at times. Is this a valid > > reason for censorship? I think not. I only wish that I could put as > > much into the hobby as she does. To those who don't want her on the > > list, use your delete button and just don't read her messages. > > > > William Pennington > > Group 3 > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > This Pennington mail list is hosted by Rootsweb. > To subscribe to Rootsweb, and show your support of their efforts, see > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

William Pennington wrote: > Bill and everyone else.. Carolyn was NOT removed from this list. She choose to unsubscribe several months ago. You seem to be mistaking this list for the PRAmembers list which she was a recent subscriber to. Therefore please direct any comments you have on the subject to the pramembers list. Steve P Pennington listowner > Hi Cousins, > When I first discovered the Pennington list 3 years ago and began > the search for my ancestors, I submitted a query to the list. One of > the first that responded was Carolyn. Her response not only broke down > my brick wall but had many inspiring things to say about genealogy. > Although I'm descended from the well documented Group 3, her words kept > me interested. With the rest of my family thinking me a "nut" for this > interest, its safe to say that without her input I would probably not be > on the list still or have joined the PRA just this year. I think > Carolyn was unjustly removed from the list. I do not like her "rants" > at times. Also I have disagreed with her at times. Is this a valid > reason for censorship? I think not. I only wish that I could put as > much into the hobby as she does. To those who don't want her on the > list, use your delete button and just don't read her messages. > > William Pennington > Group 3

Hi Cousins, When I first discovered the Pennington list 3 years ago and began the search for my ancestors, I submitted a query to the list. One of the first that responded was Carolyn. Her response not only broke down my brick wall but had many inspiring things to say about genealogy. Although I'm descended from the well documented Group 3, her words kept me interested. With the rest of my family thinking me a "nut" for this interest, its safe to say that without her input I would probably not be on the list still or have joined the PRA just this year. I think Carolyn was unjustly removed from the list. I do not like her "rants" at times. Also I have disagreed with her at times. Is this a valid reason for censorship? I think not. I only wish that I could put as much into the hobby as she does. To those who don't want her on the list, use your delete button and just don't read her messages. William Pennington Group 3

Well, [giggle] I've always heard the story about an Uncle of mine in the Pennington line that kept a gun either strapped to his hip or a rifle nearby, and yes it was in this near defunct century. It seems there was a man that liked to ride his horse into the women's parlors in the community and so my uncle took care of it. And the deceaseds (sp?) family said they'd get my gr gr Uncle. Later two nephews of his went to visit him and he was plowing and before they could identify theirselves he had the draw on them. They had to quickly talk I must say! So, oh yea, the feudin' did exist. -----Original Message----- From: CHUCK PENNINGTON [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 8:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PENNINGTON-L] Druken, feuding Pennington's from Leslie County KY. Here is a little tid bit I came up with recently from the newspaper Mt. Echo in Leslie County Kentucky. Does anyone know the rest of the story. Excerpts from the Mt. Echo JULY 19, 1901 LESLIE COUNTY There was a double killing Saturday night about eight miles from here at a dance highly flavored with bourbon whisky. Finley Cornett, son of James Cornett, and Elhannan Pennington's son Alex were killed. Jonathan Pennington is now in jail charged with the killing of Cornett and further trouble is expected, as both sides are of large families and excitement is high. Chuck Pennington Decedent of Timothy and Mary Fullen Pennington ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== Do not post virus warnings on this list. Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you are expecting For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or http://www.mcafee.com/

Here is a little tid bit I came up with recently from the newspaper Mt. Echo in Leslie County Kentucky. Does anyone know the rest of the story. Excerpts from the Mt. Echo JULY 19, 1901 LESLIE COUNTY There was a double killing Saturday night about eight miles from here at a dance highly flavored with bourbon whisky. Finley Cornett, son of James Cornett, and Elhannan Pennington's son Alex were killed. Jonathan Pennington is now in jail charged with the killing of Cornett and further trouble is expected, as both sides are of large families and excitement is high. Chuck Pennington Decedent of Timothy and Mary Fullen Pennington ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Mary, I have William Thomas Pennington married to E.L."Lula" Greer on September 28, 1889. William was born in Monroe Co. TN or VA (?) and Lula in GA. Lula was the daughter of John Nathaniel Greer and Nancy Callahan, William is the son of William Thomas Pennington. I have quite a few generations of Lula's line, but of course have hit the old wall with my Penningtons. Tammi (Pennington) Pickens [email protected] wrote: > Hi: > Is there any Penningtons out there that has a John Pennington born 1855 KY, > that married Martha Greer born 1859 KY? thank you for any information you may > have on them.~~Mary > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > The Pennington Research Association Web Site > http://penningtonresearch.org > for subscribe and unsub instructions, > follow the links to e-mail group.

Debra thank you: At this point I am not sure of any thing on John Pennington, except that he is my grandfather's brother, and that is all the information I have on him. It's like searching for a needle in a hay stack. My grandfather is Levi Jackson Pennington he went by the name Jack. In the census of Leflore County, Oklahoma it has him as Jack Pennington. Thank you again. Mary

In a message dated 12/11/1999 10:28:36 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Is there any Penningtons out there that has a John Pennington born 1855 KY, that married Martha Greer born 1859 KY? thank you for any information you may have on them.~~Mary >> Dear Mary, I have a John Robinson Pennington, b.30 May 1825 KY who married Martha Ann ____, born about 1833. They had a son, "J.E. Pennington", born 1850. If you're sure about your dates, it's not a match, but thought I would send you this info, just in case. Debra Fox Claussen

Hi: Is there any Penningtons out there that has a John Pennington born 1855 KY, that married Martha Greer born 1859 KY? thank you for any information you may have on them.~~Mary

In Pope County Arkansas book, my great grandfather John Barry Pennington & Benjamin appear, but no indication they were related. I wonder?