I am searching for Jane Pennington, born ca. 1803 in either Virginia or North Carolina. She married Benjamin Crigger (Creager) and later John Sult. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! Mark Pennington

I have been reading all these emails carefully. I have been looking for the family of Edward Pennington b. about 1796 place unknown. Married to Lucinda (maiden name unknown). She must have been born about 1802. I first found in Ashe Cty, NC census for 1820. There is only the couple with a young son 0-9 years of age. Found once more in Watauga Cty in 1850 (it was Ashe Cty earlier). This time he is 54 years of age and a farmer. She is 48. At home, they still have Isaac b about 1827 and Irina b. about 1835. I know they had a daughter named Emeline b about 1833 but she had already married in 1850. I have no idea how many children were born between 1820 and 1827 or so. I have searched diligently for any hint of who his parents could be. Your emails today contained Edwards many times and at least one Isaac. Does anyone have any idea if he may belong to this family you are speaking of? He would be my husband's GGGGgrandfather through his daughter, Irina. Audrey Annable Franklin "Sue H. Gill" wrote: > In response to the collection of emails received today regarding Thomas > and his family: > > > To Thomas Pennington, my eldest son, 150 acres of land with new house built > > on part of it, lying on Mr Stoke's Mill Swamp, near Hamlin's line; to son > > William Pennington 100 acres adjoining the above being part of survey of > > 250 acres; to Edward Pennington, my third son, Plantation I lived on after > > death of my wife Mary; to youngest children, John George Pennington, Mary > > Pennington and James each a Bible; wife to have remainder of estate. > > Wit Wm. Saunders, L.Deloney Wm. Gilbert, Thomas Alltin (Bk. 7-968). > > [Historical Souther Families Vol IV by John Bennett Boddie p 24-29 says Bk > > 7-969] > > The will of Thomas Penenton is located in Surry County, VA. Will and > Deed Book 7, page "772". (This should be used as a proper source, not > Mr. Boddie's book. I recently spoke to a professional genealogist about > Mr. Boddie's book in connection with another line of my own, and she > just shook her head and said that his material was full of mistakes. I > do know that the research done in his books was not all done by him. I > have talked to a lady (about 90 years old, but sharp as a tack!) who > gave him some information, and he put it in the book. I have reason to > think that what she submitted to him is not correct, but it has now been > quoted and put on the Internet, so what does one do????) As for the p. > 969, I don't know where that came from. I found it on page 772, and in a > letter from John French, he also said page 772. > > > My question is: what record shows that this Tho. Pidington ever had a > > wife named SARAH ____, > > Some information has already been sent on this. I can not verify that > there was ONLY one Thomas, who was married to a Sarah, and later to an > Abigail. But, in "Surry Co., VA. Court Orders 1691-1713" Page 163: > July 1696. > The difference between Robert Andrews & wife Ann, daughter of Morgan > Lewis, deceased, Plaintiff, and Tho: Peddenton & Sarah his wife Extx. of > Morgan Lewis, Defendant, is at the Def.'s request referred to the next > Court. > > So, there was a Tho: Peddenton who was married to a Sarah, who had > previously been married to Morgan Lewis. All that information is > obtained from this one source. The same page contains the exact same > information, except that John Griffin & JANE his wife, daughter of > Morgan Lewis, deceased, Plaintiff.... against Tho: Peddenton, etc. So, > Morgan Lewis had at least two daughters, Ann and Jane. > > > Thanks for the synopsis of Thomas Pennington's will. It does not > > mention the date, nor county, but I assume the date is 24 Feb 1726 in > > Surry Co., Va. > > The actual date in the will book says: 24 day of Feb. 1726/7. > The will was presented in court (Surry) Dec. 20, 1727, so he died the > same year that it was written. Are you familiar with the dates like > this? > > > I > > would estimate that his "oldest son Thomas" was born around 1685 ,if he > > was under age in 1701/2 . > > >From the court orders of Surry Co. (1691-1713) p. 230. Nov. 1702. > Thomas Pedington the son of Thomas Pedington, deceased, making it appear > that he is almost twenty years of age.... > > Here, very near the end of 1702 he is still 19 years old. Let's just > assume that his birthday isn't until 1703. That puts a birthdate of > about 1683. If it's actually in Nov. or Dec., b.d. would be 1682. What > should everyone put as his birthdate? 1682-83? Bet. 1682-83? It would > be nice if we could all agree about something as simple as this, and > give a true souce (court order). What should we put? > > > Do we know when Sarah (George)( Lewis) Peddington died. > > Since she is mentioned in the court orders in 1696, it has to be Aft. > 1696. Anyone with a later dated source? > > > Robert Andrews that became the > > guardian of Thomas's two youngest sons Edward and John. This is found in > > Surry Co. VA Court records 1700-1711 Book VI pg 24 #34 and is dated May > > 1703. > > Have not personally seen this source, but it is also seen in Surry > County Court Orders, 1691-1713, page 241. May Court 1703. > Edward and John Pedington the sons of Thomas Pedington deceased, making > choice of Robert Andrews for their guardian.... > > Glad to see discussion about the family, and would like to see all > information documented--I've said this before, haven't I? All > references to Pennington Pedigrees as a source should be thrown out, and > replaced with something that people can actually research for > themselves. > Sue > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > This Pennington mail list is hosted by Rootsweb. > To subscribe to Rootsweb, and show your support of their efforts, see > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

In response to the collection of emails received today regarding Thomas and his family: > To Thomas Pennington, my eldest son, 150 acres of land with new house built > on part of it, lying on Mr Stoke's Mill Swamp, near Hamlin's line; to son > William Pennington 100 acres adjoining the above being part of survey of > 250 acres; to Edward Pennington, my third son, Plantation I lived on after > death of my wife Mary; to youngest children, John George Pennington, Mary > Pennington and James each a Bible; wife to have remainder of estate. > Wit Wm. Saunders, L.Deloney Wm. Gilbert, Thomas Alltin (Bk. 7-968). > [Historical Souther Families Vol IV by John Bennett Boddie p 24-29 says Bk > 7-969] The will of Thomas Penenton is located in Surry County, VA. Will and Deed Book 7, page "772". (This should be used as a proper source, not Mr. Boddie's book. I recently spoke to a professional genealogist about Mr. Boddie's book in connection with another line of my own, and she just shook her head and said that his material was full of mistakes. I do know that the research done in his books was not all done by him. I have talked to a lady (about 90 years old, but sharp as a tack!) who gave him some information, and he put it in the book. I have reason to think that what she submitted to him is not correct, but it has now been quoted and put on the Internet, so what does one do????) As for the p. 969, I don't know where that came from. I found it on page 772, and in a letter from John French, he also said page 772. > My question is: what record shows that this Tho. Pidington ever had a > wife named SARAH ____, Some information has already been sent on this. I can not verify that there was ONLY one Thomas, who was married to a Sarah, and later to an Abigail. But, in "Surry Co., VA. Court Orders 1691-1713" Page 163: July 1696. The difference between Robert Andrews & wife Ann, daughter of Morgan Lewis, deceased, Plaintiff, and Tho: Peddenton & Sarah his wife Extx. of Morgan Lewis, Defendant, is at the Def.'s request referred to the next Court. So, there was a Tho: Peddenton who was married to a Sarah, who had previously been married to Morgan Lewis. All that information is obtained from this one source. The same page contains the exact same information, except that John Griffin & JANE his wife, daughter of Morgan Lewis, deceased, Plaintiff.... against Tho: Peddenton, etc. So, Morgan Lewis had at least two daughters, Ann and Jane. > Thanks for the synopsis of Thomas Pennington's will. It does not > mention the date, nor county, but I assume the date is 24 Feb 1726 in > Surry Co., Va. The actual date in the will book says: 24 day of Feb. 1726/7. The will was presented in court (Surry) Dec. 20, 1727, so he died the same year that it was written. Are you familiar with the dates like this? > I > would estimate that his "oldest son Thomas" was born around 1685 ,if he > was under age in 1701/2 . >From the court orders of Surry Co. (1691-1713) p. 230. Nov. 1702. Thomas Pedington the son of Thomas Pedington, deceased, making it appear that he is almost twenty years of age.... Here, very near the end of 1702 he is still 19 years old. Let's just assume that his birthday isn't until 1703. That puts a birthdate of about 1683. If it's actually in Nov. or Dec., b.d. would be 1682. What should everyone put as his birthdate? 1682-83? Bet. 1682-83? It would be nice if we could all agree about something as simple as this, and give a true souce (court order). What should we put? > Do we know when Sarah (George)( Lewis) Peddington died. Since she is mentioned in the court orders in 1696, it has to be Aft. 1696. Anyone with a later dated source? > Robert Andrews that became the > guardian of Thomas's two youngest sons Edward and John. This is found in > Surry Co. VA Court records 1700-1711 Book VI pg 24 #34 and is dated May > 1703. Have not personally seen this source, but it is also seen in Surry County Court Orders, 1691-1713, page 241. May Court 1703. Edward and John Pedington the sons of Thomas Pedington deceased, making choice of Robert Andrews for their guardian.... Glad to see discussion about the family, and would like to see all information documented--I've said this before, haven't I? All references to Pennington Pedigrees as a source should be thrown out, and replaced with something that people can actually research for themselves. Sue

Hi Steve, Edward Pennington in his will dated 16 May 1752 did not name a Thomas Pennington as a brother, but his father in his will dated 24 Feb 1726/27(the date is probably correct) did name "Thomas Pennington, my eldest son". I would say Thomas Pennington was Edward Pennington brother. The father did not name Benjamin Pennington as a son, but Edward Pennington did named Benjamin Pennington as a brother. Wonder if the son/brother was named Thomas Benjamin Pennington.? Edward Pennington also left is sister Mary Pennington out of his will, but his father named Mary Pennington in his will. Reg vassar

Interesting idea, but I have the w/o Thomas as Rebecca Pair (Pare) and Lucy Baily as the wife of Benjamin and kids from each union overlapping each other in dob.... So I think it would be a stretch... Steve P REGINALD L VASSAR wrote: <SNIP> > Wonder if > the son/brother was named Thomas Benjamin Pennington.? <SNIP>

Hi Jemima, What was the date of the court order "Thomas Pennington,Heir at Law of the Testor, should be summoned to appear in the next court to be held in the said county and contest the validity thereof if he thinks fit". There was another Edward Pennington ,the brother of Thomas Pennington both sons of Thomas Pennington d.- 1701/2. Could this court order be dated before Edawrd Pennington's will dated 16 May 1752. Maybe the order is for the Thomas Pennington, son of Thomas Pennington d.-1701/2. Sincerely, REGINALD L. VASSAR 3950 DAUPHIN PKWY ERIE, PA 16506 E-MAIL: [email protected] Web Site: http://www.angelfire.com/va/eriehome/index.html

I show the order is dated the 24th day of June 1752 and I was under the impression that if someone didn't marry, the Heir at Law was the oldest living brother. The only thing this doesn't explain is why Edward did not mention his oldest brother... family fued? Steve P REGINALD L VASSAR wrote: > > Hi Jemima, > What was the date of the court order "Thomas Pennington,Heir at Law of > the Testor, should be summoned to appear in the next court to be held in > the said county and contest the validity thereof if he thinks fit". > There was another Edward Pennington ,the brother of Thomas Pennington > both sons of Thomas Pennington d.- 1701/2. Could this court order be > dated before Edawrd Pennington's will dated 16 May 1752. Maybe the > order is for the Thomas Pennington, son of Thomas Pennington d.-1701/2. > > Sincerely, > > REGINALD L. VASSAR

Hi Steve, I really do not understand the information you sent. Is it an abstract from Col. John George's will written 2 Aug ?1678. if so how do you interpret the part " children of my dght Sarah Peddington which she had by my son Morgon Lewis". Does this mean that his daughter Sarah (George)(Lewis) Peddington had children son-in law Morgan Lewis? If so we need a record that show the name on the Peddington that Sarah George maried. According to this extract Sarah married Morgan Lewis ,and must have married a Peddington, but who. Thomas Pennington in his will written 23 years later (1701/2), names his wife as Abigail, and states that his three children were under age. I would estimate that his "oldest son Thomas" was born around 1685 ,if he was under age in 1701/2 . Do we know when Sarah (George)( Lewis) Peddington died. Sincerely, REGINALD L. VASSAR 3950 DAUPHIN PKWY ERIE, PA 16506 E-MAIL: [email protected] Web Site: http://www.angelfire.com/va/eriehome/index.html

Yes Sarah George had 3 children with Morgan Lewis. Joyce, John and Ann. Ann married Robert Andrews and it is Robert Andrews that became the guardian of Thomas's two youngest sons Edward and John. This is found in Surry Co. VA Court records 1700-1711 Book VI pg 24 #34 and is dated May 1703. Steve P. REGINALD L VASSAR wrote: > > Hi Steve, > I really do not understand the information you sent. Is it an abstract > from Col. John George's will written 2 Aug ?1678. if so how do you > interpret the part " children of my dght Sarah Peddington which she had > by my son Morgon Lewis". Does this mean that his daughter Sarah > (George)(Lewis) Peddington had children son-in law Morgan Lewis? If so > we need a record that show the name on the Peddington that Sarah George > maried. According to this extract Sarah married Morgan Lewis ,and must > have married a Peddington, but who. > Thomas Pennington in his will written 23 years later (1701/2), names his > wife as Abigail, and states that his three children were under age. I > would estimate that his "oldest son Thomas" was born around 1685 ,if he > was under age in 1701/2 . > Do we know when Sarah (George)( Lewis) Peddington died. > > Sincerely, > > REGINALD L. VASSAR

Hi Steve, Thanks for the synopsis of Thomas Pennington's will. It does not mention the date, nor county, but I assume the date is 24 Feb 1726 in Surry Co., Va. I notice that Benjamin Pennington is not mentioned. He named Thomas, the eldest son; William; Edward, the third son; and his youngest children John George, Mary, and James. He also named his wife Mary . Edward Pennington in his 16 May 1752 will, named his mother Mary Pennington; brothers BENJAMIN; John George; James; William; and Benjamin's son Edward Pennington. Edward did not name his sister Mary. Maybe Benjamin was not born when his father wrote his will in 1726? These two wills prove that Thomas Pennington had a wife named Mary and 7 children; 6 sons and one daughter. Sincerely, REGINALD L. VASSAR 3950 DAUPHIN PKWY ERIE, PA 16506 E-MAIL: [email protected] Web Site: http://www.angelfire.com/va/eriehome/index.html

I just thought it was probably a son that was disinherited. A son would be a natural Heir by law or heir at law. Audrey Jemima Gee Morse wrote: > Who is Thomas? > > "THOMAS PENNINGTON Heir at Law (?) of the Testator should be > summoned to appear at the next Court > to be held for the said County and contest the validity thereof > if he should think fit." > > Edward Pennington in his 1752 will names his mother, MARY, his > brothers: BENJAMIN, JOHN GEORGE, JAMES, and WILLIAM, and his > nephew, EDWARD PENNINGTON, son of BENJAMIN. > > Is Thomas also a brother? > > Thanks, > Jemima Gee Morse > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > This Pennington mail list is hosted by Rootsweb. > To subscribe to Rootsweb, and show your support of their efforts, see > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html

Hi Steve, WHAT RECORD PROVES THAT THOMAS PENNINGTON d.-1701/02 HAD A FIRST WIFE SARAH GEORGE, daughter of Col John George and his wife Ann. The will of Tho Pidington dated 13 Feb 1701/02 in Surry Co., Va certainly indicates that this Tho. Pidington had a wife Abigail and three children under age in 1701/2, one being named Tho. Piddington. Of course he could have been married before and had just recently married Abigail. >From this will you can only guess who the mother of his ghildren was. A copy of this will was sent to our group yesterday by Jemima Gee Morse. Maybe the above is another Thomas Pennington who lived in Surry Co and had an oldest son named Thomas is not the progenitor of our line. Sincerely, REGINALD L. VASSAR 3950 DAUPHIN PKWY ERIE, PA 16506 E-MAIL: [email protected] Web Site: http://www.angelfire.com/va/eriehome/index.html

HI. Jamima Gee Morse sent to the group, a transcript of EDWAD PENNINGTON"S will dated17 May 1752in Brunswick Co., Va. He did not name any of his children nor the name of a wife, you would assume he was unmarried. He did name his mother MARY PENNINGTON, brother Benjamin Pennington, nephew Edward Pennington, brother John George Pennington, brother James Pennington, brother William Pennington. He did not name any sisters. Does any one have the will of Thomas Pennington II? I have seen that it is in Surry Co.,Va dated 24 Feb 1726/27, recorded 20 Dec 1727. Does this will name his children? Sincerely, REGINALD L. VASSAR 3950 DAUPHIN PKWY ERIE, PA 16506 E-MAIL: [email protected] Web Site: http://www.angelfire.com/va/eriehome/index.html

Hi-- WHO WAS THE WIFE OF THOMAS PENNINGTON, GRANDFATHER OF JOHN GEORGE PENNINGTON? Jemima Gee Morse sent to our group a will of "THO. PIDINGTON", dated 1701/2 in Surry County. Doris Y. Stone, Geneologist notes that she copied it verbatim. If you read this will, Tho. Pidington states that in 1701/2 his wife was ABIGAIL and he had three sons that were under age (since he writes "itt is my desire that my children may live with my wife till they come to age and I make my Loveing wif Abigail ---" We know his "Eldest Sonn" was Tho: Piddington" but he does not name his other two sons. My question is: what record shows that this Tho. Pidington ever had a wife named SARAH ____, and what indicate her maiden name was GEORGE. In 1701/2 his children were under age, and you would think they were Abigail's natural children, of course he could have been previously married. Sincerely, REGINALD L. VASSAR 3950 DAUPHIN PKWY ERIE, PA 16506 E-MAIL: [email protected] Web Site: http://www.angelfire.com/va/eriehome/index.html

Just in case I missed someone, GeneTree info is located at: http://www.geneticcounselors.com/ Bobby Pennington Group VI http://www.members.home.net/bobpenn1/

Col John George's will is the source I have. While I don't have the will in electronic form, it may be in a large packet of info I have on John George... But here is what I have in electronic form... an abstract from his will.. Thomas Piddington married Sarah George Lewis She had been married to Morgan Lewis ie; will of her father John George mentions: written 2 Aug. ?1678 son Isack, grandson John George(son of Isack), dgts. Rebecca and Sarah grandchildren John, Joyce Lewis children of Philip Pardoe children of my dght Sarah Peddington shich she had by my son Morgan Lewis kinswoman Mary Baugh wife Ann Est. wife and overseers Major James Powell and Thomas Taberer rec. 9 jan ?1678 Wit. Robert Parker, Thomas Taberer and Edward Bechi_? and George Branch Isle of Whight Co VA Willand Deed book 2, pg 170 REGINALD L VASSAR wrote: > > Hi Steve, > WHAT RECORD PROVES THAT THOMAS PENNINGTON d.-1701/02 HAD A FIRST WIFE > SARAH GEORGE, daughter of Col John George and his wife Ann. > The will of Tho Pidington dated 13 Feb 1701/02 in Surry Co., Va > certainly indicates that this Tho. Pidington had a wife Abigail and three > children under age in 1701/2, one being named Tho. Piddington. Of course > he could have been married before and had just recently married Abigail. > >From this will you can only guess who the mother of his ghildren was. A > copy of this will was sent to our group yesterday by Jemima Gee Morse. > Maybe the above is another Thomas Pennington who lived in Surry Co and > had an oldest son named Thomas is not the progenitor of our line. > > Sincerely, > > REGINALD L. VASSAR

To Thomas Pennington, my eldest son, 150 acres of land with new house built on part of it, lying on Mr Stoke's Mill Swamp, near Hamlin's line; to son William Pennington 100 acres adjoining the above being part of survey of 250 acres; to Edward Pennington, my third son, Plantation I lived on after death of my wife Mary; to youngest children, John George Pennington, Mary Pennington and James each a Bible; wife to have remainder of estate. Wit Wm. Saunders, L.Deloney Wm. Gilbert, Thomas Alltin (Bk. 7-968). [Historical Souther Families Vol IV by John Bennett Boddie p 24-29 says Bk 7-969] REGINALD L VASSAR wrote: <SNIP> > Does any one have the will of Thomas Pennington II? I have seen that it > is in Surry Co.,Va dated 24 Feb 1726/27, recorded 20 Dec 1727. Does this > will name his children? <SNIP>

Thomas's first wife was Sarah George d/o Ann & Col. John George. Sarah was previously married to Morgan Lewis who died in 1677. Steve P REGINALD L VASSAR wrote: > > Hi-- > WHO WAS THE WIFE OF THOMAS PENNINGTON, GRANDFATHER OF JOHN GEORGE > PENNINGTON? <SNIP>

LUCAS GEE WILL 25 OCTOBER 1817 LUNENBURG COUNTY, VIRGINIA Will Book 8, p. 75 I LUCAS GEE of the County of Lunenburg and state of Virginia do hereby make my last will and testament in manner and format -----that is to say 1st I leave the whole of my estate both legal and personal & perishable(?) to be kept together by my wife for the benefit of my children during her life or widowhood if either of my children leave my wife and not be as one of her family working for the benefit of the whole they shall not have any part of the -----so long as they remain so but if either of my children should need any part of my estate after they go from the family and are of age they may have a part of my estate such part as my wife may think proper but not more than their proper proportionable part according to the act of this state directing the distribution of interstates estate and if my wife dies my widow my wish is that the whole of my estate be equally divided between my children and their representatives and they that have received any part before her death except the profits arising that is assumed(?) in the family for support and education shall be accountable to the estate for the same. My wife if she marries is to have an equal third part of the whole of my estate during her life and at her death her third to be equally divided between my children or their representatives and when she marries my wish is that two thirds of my estate be equally divided and they each accountable as before.) between my children or their representatives 2nd my will and desire is that there be no inventory nor appraisment of my estate 3rd & lastly I do hereby constitute and appoint my brother JONES GEE and my sons SACK P. GEE and WILLIAM L. GEE Executors of this my last will and testament by me heretofore made- In witness whereof I have been herewith set my hand and affixed my seal this 25 day of October 1817. LUCAS GEE (SEAL) WILL PROVED 10 FEB 1820 In Lunenburg County Court 10th February 1820 The last will and testament of LUCAS GEE deceased was presented into Court and the hand writing of the said decedent was proved by the oaths of William Ragsdale & Edmund H. Taylor & the same was ordered to be recorded. Recorded: Will Book 8, page 75; William H. Taylor, Teste

Who is Thomas? "THOMAS PENNINGTON Heir at Law (?) of the Testator should be summoned to appear at the next Court to be held for the said County and contest the validity thereof if he should think fit." Edward Pennington in his 1752 will names his mother, MARY, his brothers: BENJAMIN, JOHN GEORGE, JAMES, and WILLIAM, and his nephew, EDWARD PENNINGTON, son of BENJAMIN. Is Thomas also a brother? Thanks, Jemima Gee Morse