Does anyone have in their group, Abraham Pennington who married Margaret (Peggy) Lewis and had children Micager b.1817, Nancy b.1827 and Pealey b.1838? Margaret Lewis had a sister Patsy whose second marriage was to Abel Pennington and had children Matilda Jane, Hampton, Patsy, Preston, Hampton and Levi. This information is on the database of 'Herbert D. Lewis'. I believer the PRA web site indicates the above two Penningtons might be connected to group 30. I see lots of great communication on this forum but unfortunately for me, very little information on the group I think my family is in (possibly Group 30). I have had several contacts with Pennington cousins through another forum that are connected with my family and I really appreciate the communication. Happy New Year. Roger Pennington Phoenix, AZ

I have Family Tree Maker with over 1000 names,would I be able to put it on a space at rootsweb and if so how do I go about it? I just found out that you have free web space. Thank you. Mary

forwarded by listowner -------- Original Message -------- Subject: {not a subscriber} Group 6, or maybe 10? Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:12:13 -0800 (PST) From: "Sue H. Gill" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] I received this in response to a query to VA-SOUTHSIDE rootsweb. Can someone help this gentleman? Please send any replies to: [email protected] Hi, Noticed your response to a PENNINGTON query in the VA-SOUTHSIDE rootsweb list. Some time ago I had a question on the surname in North Carolina. I booted up the PRA site and queried a Bobby Pennington in "Group 6". He replied promptly but there was nothing in his data that addressed my questions, and he advised me to try the contact person for "Group 10"--I believe his name was Steve. I wrote Steve but he never replied. Below is the text of my query at that time; I'd be grateful for any help you might be able to provide. Regards, John Ottinger > > I'm investigating a central North Carolina family in the early 1800s > named SHANKLE; specifically the descendants, ancestry, etc., of a George > SHANKLE (1754-1841), a Revolutionary War Veteran and Methodist minister. > > Two of George's sons married Penningtons in Montgomery County: Eli > married Lectena, 5 Jun 1834; and Henry married Scelena, 11 Dec 1834. The > womens' names are also seen as "Selena," "Electa", and various other > spellings. They were apparently the daughters of a David Pennington. > > Discussion among Shankles centers on the name of George's wife, with > some saying it was Oney/Ony/Naomi LEDBETTER, and others Oney etc > PENNINGTON, daughter of Levi Pennington. No proof is offered wither way. > Some say Oney was a shortened form of Naomi, others that it is a given > name in its own right. > > I've determined to my satisfaction that George did indeed marry Oney > Ledbetter, but only late in life, and after ten children had been born > to him and his first wife, whose name I don't have. Curiously, one of > these children, and as it so happens my direct ancestor, was also named > Ony, born around 1800. > > I've used the PRA Website search mechanism and there is no "Ony", etc. > My gut feeling at this point is that the first wife was not a > Pennington, and I would like to rule out the surname and search > elsewhere. Reluctantly, I might add, since I am most impressed with the > Pennington research. > > I would welcome any input from you, even if helps to eliminate the > Penningtons from my search. > > > Regards, > > John Ottinger >

Is there anyone on this list who doing research on Richard Pennington of Pendleton County, (W) Va.? If so, contact me. Debbie [email protected]

Hi Cousins: I got this from the Davis-L List. If I'm not mistaken this could be the father or grandfather of Thomas Davis who married Priscilla "Aurella" Pennington; daughter of Richard and Eleanor Pennington. Let me know what you think. I'm unsure. Debbie HISTORY OF THE ROBERT NEWTON DAVIS FAMILY > > > The Davis forefathers immigrated to America from Wales. One of them >was killed in the wilderness of Virginia by the Indians. > Thomas Davis, one of the descendants, who was one of the pioneer >settlers of Lincoln > county, KY., fought against the Indians with Daniel Boone. He >reared a family of > eight children. After they were grown he moved to Hardin County, >KY. where he died. > Isaac Froman, a maternal ancestor, was born in Bullitt county, KY., >where he spent > his entire life. He reared 12 children, seven daughters and five >sons. Tandy J. > Davis, a son of Thomas, was born March 22, 1789 in Lincoln County, >KY. > He enlisted in the War of 1812 but was rejected because of a >disability. In 1829 > he moved to Hardin County, KY, where he was married in 1839 to >Susan Froman. She > was born August 31, 1812 in Bullitt County, KY. > In 1845 Tandy J. Davis purchased 160 acres of government land in >Mississippi County, > MO. He lived with William Huff that year until his crops were made >and he had > completed the building of a log house, then he returned for his >family. > In March 1846 Tandy Davis had a flat boat built at his woodyard and >launched it on the > Salt River, and brought his family, stock and goods down the Ohio >River to Cairo, ILL. > .after unloading his family and things on the Missouri side of the >river rear Birds > Point, he sold the boat and took his family to their new home. He >soon acquired > much property in Mississippi County. > Tandy J. Davis and Susan, his wife, had twelve children: > (1) Elizabeth Susan, the oldest was born December 8, 1839. On the >10th day of May’ > 1857, she married a widowed named William D. Huff, a. native of >Breckenridge County, > KY. He was the son of Benjamin Huff and a Miss Hardin of Hardin >County,KY. William > D. Huff had four children by his first wife, Elizabeth Walls and >one son, Tandy > Davis Huff; by his second wife. William D. Huff died in 1860 and >Mrs.. Elizabeth > Davis-Huff,’married a second time’ on October 20, 1863 to Louis >Martin. He was born > December 21, 1828 in Davis County, KY. the son of John Martin and >Elizabeth Atkins > of Virginia —, the daughter of Abner Atkins. Joseph Martin and >Abner Atkins both > located in Mississippi County, MO. Louis Martin was married in 1854 >to Alice Norris, > she died February 8, 1863. Leaving three children,- Martha, >Barbara, and Jesse S. > Martin. Elizabeth Davis and Louis Martin bad seven children. >Lethia, Alice, Louis, > Julia, Addle (Mrs.. Edgar Swank), Charles and on infant. > (2) Thomas Froman Davis, was born December 24, 1840; died December >2, 1870. He was in the Battle of Fredericktown in 1861. > (3) Isaac W. Davis was born January 4, 1842; died June 9, 1842. > -(‘4) Jane Davis, born January 16, 1843; died March 9, 186— She >married a man named Bartlett. > (5) Robert Newton Davis, born May’ 3, 1845; died March 3, 1925. > (6)Tandy J. Davis, born June 10, 1846; .died September 17, 1846. > (7) Eliza Davis, born July 4, 1847; died January 1857. > (8) John C. Davis, born October 9, 1848; died January 27, 1886. > (9 — 10) TwIns: Eugene, born and died January’ 27, 1850. Eugenia, >born January 27; > died December 28,’1871. > (11) Tandy Davis, born. October 27, 1851; died September 1, 1870 of >peritonitis, > - caused by a fall from his burning home. He injured a shoulder in >the fall which lead > to complications and finally his death. > (12) Naomi W. Davis, was born November 25, 1852; died September >4, 1859. > >David Hilary Lee >3581 Alston Chapel Rd >Pittsboro, NC 27312 > >[email protected] > > >

I receaved family group sheets from a cousen and will be glad to share if you need info on any of the names. They are from Ok,Tennessee,Arkansas,SC,NC, Utah Mountain Meadows,Missouri,Kentucky,Texas,California. My grandfather, Levi Jackson Pennington,Married Nancy Sarah J.E. Powers, She was the daughter of Charles Green (Berry)Powers and Nancy Wyatt Mitchell, Their children.Nancy (Lizzie) my grandmother Henry Isam, Alice Tennessee, Mary E., In some Census the name Powers is spelled (Powell). The cousin that sent me the family group sheets his g-grandmother was Nancy's Sister, Alice Tennessee Powers. If you would like any info on them I would be more than happy to share with you.~~`~~Mary.

Need help in finding George M. Pennington....he married Maggie Gaines in 1896 and died within the first year of their marriage. that is all that I know about him. Would like to find date of birth....date of death ..where buried .....and parents and siblings of him. They had one son that was born after his death....Maggie Gaines Pennington is my grandmother...... Thank you for your time. Calista

Julia: You asked, "i think this is a simple question. as i'm not currently a PRA member & wasn't around for the beginning of the JFMF compilation (i do understand it's an ongoing item), i'd like to ask if the JFMF only includes names from the currently established family groups or does it also contain gedcoms from unassigned branches of PENNINGTONs. for example, if i had my PENNINGTON line all buttoned up (which i don't, but bear with me) & wanted to add it to the JFMF, would i be able to submit it even though i haven't connected with one of the 30 groups? in addition, would i have to be a PRA member first? i don't remember seeing the answers to these questions on the website so i thought i'd ask them here." The answer to your first question is YES, the JFMF does contain names that are NOT yet assigned to a Family Group. These "unconnected" names are just waiting for somebody to step forward and become a Family Group Leader and to be assigned a Group description and number. The answer to your second question is YES, the PRA accepts GEDCOM files and genealogical reports from any researcher of the Pennington surname. We do have a format for submitting the data and reports to help us track and enter the information into the JFMF. If anybody is interested in submitting a GEDCOM file or genealogical report, please contact me for details. The answer to your third question is NO, you do not have to be a PRA member to submit either a GEDCOM file or a genealogical report to the PRA. Gene Pennington (Group 7) Research Director Pennington Research Association www.penningtonresearch.org

Bob Bartley forwarded: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gene Pennington" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 8:07 AM > > Subject: [PRA]: PRA - WHAT WE ARE DOING TO ACCOMPLISH OUR MISSION > > > > > 1. The John French Master File (JFMF). A collection of about 67,000 names > > > maintained in a database. This database comes from GEDCOM files and > > > genealogical reports submitted by PRA members. We are working hard to > > > publish this information in a format that will make it accessible to our > > > members. Eventually we hope to be able to publish it on our web site and on > > > a CD. The Family Group Leaders are presently collecting and updating > > > information from their Group members to update the JFMF and their Group's > > > description and summaries. i think this is a simple question. as i'm not currently a PRA member & wasn't around for the beginning of the JFMF compilation (i do understand it's an ongoing item), i'd like to ask if the JFMF only includes names from the currently established family groups or does it also contain gedcoms from unassigned branches of PENNINGTONs. for example, if i had my PENNINGTON line all buttoned up (which i don't, but bear with me) & wanted to add it to the JFMF, would i be able to submit it even though i haven't connected with one of the 30 groups? in addition, would i have to be a PRA member first? i don't remember seeing the answers to these questions on the website so i thought i'd ask them here. thanks, julia horvath looking for PENNINGTONs in chester, eng.> ont., canada> minneapolis, mn.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D2CAC15401E9B8ECACF0D427 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 12/10/1999 9:25:32 AM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: << There was also a young lady researching > Pennington's in Moniteau Co,MO >> > > Well, I'm not a YOUNG lady by any stretch, but I *AM* researching Penningtons > in Moniteau Co MO ;-) > > My line is: > 1) Levi Pennington (b.abt 1758 Rowan Co NC d.12 Aug 1808 Spartanburg SC). > Married Elizabeth Beeson abt 1780. > 2) John Pennington (b.abt 1789 Randolph Co NC d.abt 1859 Simpson Co, > KY). > 3) Levi Pennington (b.1829 Simpson Co, KY d.1900 Moniteau Co, MO). > Married Sarah J Smith-Beard on 01 Jun 1852 in Simpson Co KY. > 4) Little Berry Pennington (b.16 Sep 1865 Moniteau Co MO d.31 > Jul 1955 > KCMO). Berry married Bertha Steinhauer Abt. 1889. > 5) Virgie Minnie Pennington (b.28 Jun 1891 Moniteau Co > MO d.Aug > 1975 New Mkt MO). Virgie married Elmo T. Nelson 14 > Apr 1909 in > Clarksburg MO. > 6) Emma Lucille Nelson > 7) Jo Ann Crawford (my MOM) > > This is not a very prolific line. Many babies lost at birth and in 1st year. > Virgie Minnie was only surviving child of Little Berry. Emma Lucille was > only child of Virgie. And my Mom was the only child of Emma Lucille to have > any children. > > There are lots of Penningtons buried at the Flag Spring Church cemetery just > east of California MO, including some I haven't connected with yet. Have > found lots of surviving Crawford cousins in Moniteau County (mainly in > California MO), but nary a single Pennington cousin. If you're out there, > PLEASE give a holler! > > Debra Claussen > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > Threaded archives can now be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/PENNINGTON-L/ Hi Debra, I am a leader of pennington group 23 PRA. if you will go to Ancestry. Com you will find lots of your Ancesters. you do have listings in the Pennington Pedegree Mag. I been trying to connect your Penningtons with mine but to no avail. I also have a Levi Pennington and they also lived in Moniteau Co. Mo. You have Baird's ,Sugg's etc. You also have cousins out here in Lancaster California, I met her once, She is also researching. I will look her up and ty to make a connection for you. Viola [email protected] --------------D2CAC15401E9B8ECACF0D427 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vigeo.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for George & Viola Ell Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vigeo.vcf" begin:vcard adr;dom:;;2121 Erlon St.;Adelanto, El Mirage;CA;92301; n:;Viola ELL x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:VIGEO version:2.1 email;internet:[email protected] x-mozilla-cpt:;0 tel;home:760 388 4922 fn:Viola ELL end:vcard --------------D2CAC15401E9B8ECACF0D427--

forwarded by listowner -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Subscribe Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:21:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Valerie&Lance" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Lance Lynn Pennington b. 01 01 1959 to Eugene Forest Pennington in Anaheim,Ca son of Samuel Lynn Pennington just looking for some leads on my own , my mother has done some work but all was lost a few years ago. thank you Lance L Pennington Sr. Winlock, Wa.

In a message dated 1/5/2000 9:59:53 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Hi Debra, I am a leader of pennington group 23 PRA. if you will go to Ancestry. Com you will find lots of your Ancesters. you do have listings in the Pennington Pedegree Mag. I been trying to connect your Penningtons with mine but to no avail. I also have a Levi Pennington and they also lived in Moniteau Co. Mo. You have Baird's ,Sugg's etc. You also have cousins out here in Lancaster California, I met her once, She is also researching. I will look her up and ty to make a connection for you. Viola >> Dear Viola, this is such great news... thanks! My GGG-Grandma is supposed to have been Sarah J Smith-Baird (or Smith-Beard), but I have not run into the SUGGS name yet. I intend to make a research trip to Moniteau Co in the not-too-distance future, so if there's anything I can look up for you while I'm there, let me know. And I can't wait to hear from the relative in California. :-) Thanks again, Debra Claussen

Subject: PRA - WHAT WE ARE DOING TO ACCOMPLISH OUR MISSION > Dear Gene, > > Thanks for your prompt response to my concerns. You have always personally > been helpful and courteous. > > But I am still seeking an answer to my question regarding the status of my > cousins' Grp. 30 (old Grp 11) research submitted in the past. And is it even > possible to access information on file without waiting for a CD that might > or might not be available in the future (for which my family possibly did > the research)? > > As far as submitting, I have not had the time over the last few months to > finish entering into FTM, even for my own use. In the interim, I discussed > the topic of submissions with one of the aforementioned cousins, and it > occurred to me that my efforts would be redundant if the information were > still on file, since they did the original work. Yet it seems clear from > some of the discussions on the forums that much of what I have is unknown by > those who should be in the know. > > I suspect that I will be encouraged again to submit, submit, submit. But as > my cousin said to me, what was the point of her paying dues and working for > those MANY years if another close cousin and member can't at least verify > the existence of her research through the organization. > > Cari > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gene Pennington" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 8:07 AM > Subject: [PRA]: PRA - WHAT WE ARE DOING TO ACCOMPLISH OUR MISSION > > > > Cari: > > > > Thank you for your recent message concerning the many problems facing the > > PRA. You have identified some of the biggest problems challenging the PRA > > right now. How does the PRA (a dedicated group of volunteers I might add) > > collect, index, store, retrieve, publish and share genealogical > information, > > respect everybody's rights and still accomplish our mission? > > > > To meet these challenges, the PRA has six (6) projects currently underway > > that we hope will help us accomplish our mission. > > > > 1. The John French Master File (JFMF). A collection of about 67,000 > names > > maintained in a database. This database comes from GEDCOM files and > > genealogical reports submitted by PRA members. We are working hard to > > publish this information in a format that will make it accessible to our > > members. Eventually we hope to be able to publish it on our web site and > on > > a CD. The Family Group Leaders are presently collecting and updating > > information from their Group members to update the JFMF and their Group's > > description and summaries. > > > > 2. PRA Index (PRAINDEX). A huge project undertaken by the PRA and headed > > by Bobby Pennington. This project has scanned AND INDEXED all of the > > Pennington Cousins' Couriers and almost all of the Pedigrees. This > program > > allows the user to search for a name and then find the Courier and/or > > Pedigree volume and issue that contains the information. We hope to soon > > complete the scanning of all of the Pedigrees. In the mean time, we will > be > > publishing this program to distribute on a test CD to our Family Group > > Leaders. > > > > 3. The PRA web site at www.penningtonresearch.org . By posting > information > > on our web site, we hope to better inform our members and researchers of > > information about the Pennington family. We hope our web site will > > eventually become the primary source for researchers to find and retrieve > > information such as the JFMF, the PRAINDEX and documents from the PRA > > Libraries (including the Courier and the Pedigrees). > > > > 4. CD Publishing. We are in the process of publishing a CD containing a > > genealogy report for each PRA Family Group that has a Group Leader, a > GEDCOM > > file for these groups AND the PRAINDEX program. We hope to publish and > > distribute this CD soon. This test CD will be distributed to each Family > > Group Leader for their use and evaluation. Once the evaluation is done, > the > > PRA Board will decide if we should publish more CDs. If more are > published, > > they will decide how many to publish and to whom they should be made > > available, etc. > > > > 5. PRA Library. Currently copies of the Pedigrees are stored at several > > public libraries around the United States. In addition, several members > are > > fortunate enough to have a complete set of the Pedigrees. Once the > PRAINDEX > > program is distributed, it is hoped that more members will be able to > access > > the Pedigrees by either visiting a nearby library or by contacting a > > volunteer who will perform the look up for them. One of the projects on > my > > "to do list" is to build an index system for the thousands of books, > > letters, newspaper clippings, genealogical reports and other documents in > my > > filing cabinets and bookcases. This invaluable material has been > > accumulated over the years by former Research Directors. It is an > > incredible resource that needs to be maintained and made available to our > > members. I am receiving documents now as members send me their material. > > > > 6. The Pennington Pedigrees. This great publication is undergoing a > major > > transition as we enter the new millennium. The Board recognizes that many > > of our members are not on the Internet and rely entirely on the Pedigrees > > for their information about the PRA and the Pennington surname research. > > The Board is committed to publishing our information in BOTH printed and > > electronic formats to ensure we reach all of our members. The Board has > > determined that the Pennington Cousins' Courier and the Pedigrees will be > > combined and the Pedigrees will be published three (3) times a year. Our > > new Editor, John Pennington, is committed to helping the Pedigrees become > a > > viable and informative publication. The Research Committee has been > working > > closely with John to ensure more articles are published. > > > > As you can see, the PRA is working very hard to accomplish its' mission > and > > solve the problems you identified. Along the way we are besieged by a > > number of significant problems (such as the copyright issue) which cause > > delays while they are addressed. > > > > Many of our members are very concerned about preserving their copyrights > on > > any material they submit to the PRA and legally we have to respect their > > assertions. It has nothing to do with "hiding information" or not wanting > > to share the information. The PRA is committed to sharing the information > > but we have to do it by respecting the rights of the researchers who have > > submitted it to us. > > > > We started a few months ago using a consent form to be sure we obtain the > > approval of an author who submits anything to us before we publish the > > material. In addition, we are working now on a new copyright policy that > we > > think will allow us to share the information we have collected and still > > respect the copyrights of others. > > > > You said that you have asked the PRA if they have any information on your > > line but you've been " .. ignored, or my postings/queries are picked apart > > without documented alternatives, and I find out later that I was correct." > > Let me be the first to apologize to you for this treatment. I will be > > sending you a private e-mail to address this and I hope that we can be of > > assistance to you in your research. > > > > Please do not be afraid to share your information with other PRA members > and > > researchers. The great majority of our members want to share their > > information and the PRA's mission is to help this process by becoming the > > best source of information on the Pennington surname. > > > > One of the biggest problems we face is finding enough volunteers to help > the > > PRA. We rely entirely on volunteers who are willing to jump in and help > get > > things done. If you, or anybody else who reads this message, is > interested > > in helping, please contact me. > > > > I hope I have addressed your concerns. If you have any more questions or > > need help, please let me know. > > > > Gene Pennington (Group 7) > > Research Director > > Pennington Research Association > > www.penningtonresearch.org > > > > > > ==== PRA Mail List -- Visit our Web Site at > > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > > NOTE: All material submitted to this list may be used on the PRA web site > > or in other PRA publications, with proper credit to the author. > > __________________________________________________________ > > List hosted by SOHOWeb.net -- The Small Business IPP. > > Our goal: your success. Find out more at http://sohoweb.net > > or via e-mail at [email protected] > > > > ==== PRA Mail List -- Visit our Web Site at > http://www.penningtonresearch.org > NOTE: All material submitted to this list may be used on the PRA web site > or in other PRA publications, with proper credit to the author. > __________________________________________________________ > List hosted by SOHOWeb.net -- The Small Business IPP. > Our goal: your success. Find out more at http://sohoweb.net > or via e-mail at [email protected] >

Group VI Groupies: Here is an update on the attempts to find the Levi Pennington Jr. (1758-1808) cemetery. It is supposed to be located on Levi's original farm property in Cherokee County, SC (originally Spartanburg Co.). My brother, Riley Pennington, and I visited the area where an "unknown" cemetery is supposed to exist on Peoples Creek. This cemetery is located somewhere on Levi's original farm property. We contacted the Chandler family, one of the more recent owners of this property (my dad built the home for this Chandler family). Mark Chandler had indicated earlier to my brother on the phone there was in-fact an old cemetery on the property and he knew exactly where it was located. He stated the property is now owned by and is the campus of the Cherokee Vocational Technology Center (3206 Cherokee Ave. US-29 N). The day we attempted to locate the cemetery, Mark Chandler, was sick and was unable to receive visitors. We did, however, search the accessible areas of the school campus and was unable to find the cemetery. There are several sections of dense forest and underbrush (several acres each) on the site. It is likely the old cemetery is located in one of these sections. We also visited the City of Gaffney Board of Public Works Peoples Creek Waste Treatment Plant site, which is adjoining the school campus. The operators at the plant told us that no cemetery was on the City property but they "understood" there was one on the school campus. Next trip we will attempt to talk with Mr. Chandler to determine exactly where the cemetery is located. Bobby Pennington Charleston, SC Group VI http://www.members.home.net/bobpenn1/ Click once on either of the Coats of Arms

Coud the person who sent the update on group iv, please send it to me, I deleted it by mistake.....thank you .........jenell

I to dropped out of PRA about a year ago as I said before cause I was not finding anything on Greenberry Pennington Line, I had sent pictures and little info on his Daughter. I was unhappy with it. I have gotten more help on Pennington Rootweb and its message people then ever before. People here are the greatest Barb in OK ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Bartley <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [PENNINGTON-L] Abel Pennington m. Elizabeth Bolling > Dear Carmen, > > The information and documentation was provided to the PRA many years ago by > a cousin who was active in PRA for many years. > > Rather than reinvent the wheel, it's seems that all this information should > be available from the PRA, especially to a group leader such as yourself. > But it appears that the organization has either lost or is ignoring all of > the painstaking research in courthouses, cemeteries etc. undertaken by my > family. When I've asked PRA "officials" if they have any info on my line I'm > ignored, or my postings/queries are picked apart without documented > alternatives, and I find out later that I was correct. > > I suppose you could say this is also an open letter to the powers that be. I > thought that joining the PRA would make it possible to compare new research > with that which we already had. But it appears that the PRA is more > concerned with hiding information that with sharing. I've helped several > people find their line (through private email) - even people who have been > members for several years - but have received little if any help from the > official organization. > > I've been following the copyright debate with some interest. I understand > that some people might not want to share information for various reasons, > but frankly those people should not be members of an organization ostensibly > dedicated to sharing information. And to that end the PRA should be focused > on finding ways to make it easier for members to share. There seem to be a > few groups working together; the PRA as a whole needs to do the same. > > But even I am afraid to share at this point because the atmosphere has > become so contentious and antiproductive. I got into this because I thought > it would be fun and because I wanted to do something for my daughter, who > has Penningtons on both sides. Little did I suspect that I was stepping into > the middle of "X-Files meets Saturday Night Wrestling." > > Both my husband and I vote to have Carolyn McDaniel reinstated to the list, > if she is interested. She and my husband's sister helped one another with > some research a few years ago. Even though we cringe at some of her > political digressions, we think her genealogical instincts are correct, and > that the PRA benefits from her input. > > I do have a relatively new group leader (Martha Mourning), and I look > forward to working with her after I get settled in after my recent move from > Nevada to California. I firmly believe that many of the PRA groups are > connected, but those connections will never be made if we don't even know > what information already exists at the PRA. > > I hope this letter spurs some constructive discussion. > > Cari (and Bob) Bartley > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]>I > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: [PENNINGTON-L] Abel Pennington m. Elizabeth Bolling > > > > Dear Cari, > > The information certainly helps...Can you give me the basics with > > references, if possible on Able Pennington. His parents, etc. I have > > nothing on him right now and hesitate to enter the info that I got into my > > gedcom without checking its accuracy. I would certainly appreciate it! > > > > Carmen Johnson > > PRA Group 7 Leader > > Pennington Page: > > http://members.xoom.com/carmenj/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > Home Page: http://members.xoom.com/carmenj > > Genealogy Page: http://users.lewiston.com/carmenj > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Bartley" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 5:36 PM > > Subject: Fw: [PENNINGTON-L] Abel Pennington m. Elizabeth Bolling > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Cari" <[email protected]> > > > To: "Bob A Bartley" <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 5:31 PM > > > Subject : Abel Pennington m. Elizabeth Bolling > > > > > > > > > > Dear Carmen, > > > > > > > > My family notes (group #30) show that Abel born July 8, 1797 married > > > > Elizabeth (Betsy) Bolling on the same date and place that you have > > > > mentioned. I also have notes that say he was born in Greenville SC. > He > > > had > > > > brothers and sisters that we have info on, but some family sources say > > > that > > > > he had brothers also named Levi, John and a possible William. Abel's > > > brother > > > > Preston was born Oct. 31, 1804 in TN or KY and died Aug. 9, 1875 in > > > > Montgomery Co. IN but his grave is in North Salem IN. We have many > > > Levi's. > > > > I have a cousin in her 80's who has been doing research for over 40 > > years, > > > > she said she supplied much information to the PRA but is not sure if > it > > > was > > > > ever used or filed. The Abel above is called Abel 3 in my family. My > > > G.G.G. > > > > Grandfather was Minatree 1832 - 1879. His father was Hampton 1803-1841 > > and > > > a > > > > brother of the Abel who married Elizabeth Bolling. We have many > > marriages > > > > into the Stewart family. The Turner and Lewis names also keep coming > up > > as > > > > do a few others. Does any of this help? > > > > > > > > Cari Bartley > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 11:55 PM > > > > Subject: [PENNINGTON-L] Abel Pennington m. Elizabeth Bolling > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone could confirm the following info and > provide > > > > some > > > > > supporting data or fill in some blanks...please let me know. > > > > > > > > > > Carmen > > > > > PRA Group 7 Leader > > > > > Pennington Page: > > > > > http://members.xoom.com/carmenj/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > > Home Page: http://members.xoom.com/carmenj > > > > > Genealogy Page: http://users.lewiston.com/carmenj > > > > > > > > > > Descendants of Abel Pennington > > > > > > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > > 1. ABEL1 PENNINGTON was born July 08, 1797, and died January 16, > 1881 > > in > > > > > Jackson County, Kentucky. He married ELIZABETH BOLLING April 15, > 1815 > > in > > > > > Clay County, Kentucky, daughter of JESSE BOLLING and MARY > PENNINGTON. > > > She > > > > > was born April 1794, and died February 1866 in Jackson County, > > Kentucky. > > > > > Children of ABEL PENNINGTON and ELIZABETH BOLLING are: > > > > > 2. i. RACHEL2 PENNINGTON, b. December 25, 1817; d. 1884. > > > > > 3. ii. LEVI PENNINGTON, b. August 30, 1821, Perry County, Kentucky; > d. > > > > > December 29, 1862, Vicksburg, Mississippi (Chicasaw Bayou). > > > > > iii. PRESTON PENNINGTON, b. Abt. 1824, Kentucky; d. February 18, > 1866, > > > > > Jackson County, Kentucky; m. MARY MOOR; d. Unknown. > > > > > Notes for PRESTON PENNINGTON: > > > > > Buried in Annville, Kentucky > > > > > More About PRESTON PENNINGTON: > > > > > Cause of Death: Dysentery (Civil War) > > > > > iv. MARY JANE PENNINGTON, b. January 24, 1824; d. Unknown; m. JOHN > C. > > > > > (CHUCK) TURNER; d. Unknown. > > > > > 4. v. CAPT. JOHN PENNINGTON, b. February 22, 1827, Perry County, > > > Kentucky; > > > > > d. August 03, 1905, Anneville, Kentucky. > > > > > 5. vi. NANCY PENNINGTON, b. December 22, 1829; d. Unknown. > > > > > > > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > > 2. RACHEL2 PENNINGTON (ABEL1) was born December 25, 1817, and died > > 1884. > > > > She > > > > > married SAMUEL JOHNSON January 23, 1832. He was born 1808, and died > > > 1903. > > > > > Children of RACHEL PENNINGTON and SAMUEL JOHNSON are: > > > > > i. ANDERSON3 JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > > ii. GEORGE W. JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > > iii. HENDERSON JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > > iv. LEVI PENNINGTON JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > > v. ABIJAH JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > > vi. ELIZABETH JOHNSON, d. Unknown; m. WILLIAM GABBARD; b. 1834; d. > > > > Unknown. > > > > > vii. NANCY JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > > viii. JAMES JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > > ix. LUCINDA JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > > 3. LEVI2 PENNINGTON (ABEL1) was born August 30, 1821 in Perry > County, > > > > > Kentucky, and died December 29, 1862 in Vicksburg, Mississippi > > (Chicasaw > > > > > Bayou). He married RACHEL CORNETT COMBS November 10, 1842 in Perry > > > County, > > > > > Kentucky. She was born October 10, 1824, and died June 05, 1908 in > > > Jackson > > > > > County, Kentucky. > > > > > Children of LEVI PENNINGTON and RACHEL COMBS are: > > > > > i. ELIHUE PENNINGTON3 PENNINGTON, b. September 06, 1843; d. Unknown. > > > > > ii. MANERY JANE PENNINGTON, b. February 21, 1845; d. Unknown. > > > > > 6. iii. PRESTON PENNINGTON, b. May 22, 1846; d. Unknown. > > > > > iv. ELEANOR PENNINGTON, b. Abt. 1848; d. Unknown. > > > > > v. MEARTHA PENNINGTON, b. Abt. 1850; d. Unknown. > > > > > vi. MARY PENNINGTON, b. Abt. 1853; d. Unknown. > > > > > vii. LUCY PENNINGTON, b. March 1854, Kentucky; d. September 01, > 1885, > > > > > Kentucky. > > > > > 7. viii. JOHN PENNINGTON, b. March 1856, Kentucky; d. Unknown. > > > > > 8. ix. ORLEANA PENNINGTON, b. April 01, 1858; d. Unknown. > > > > > 9. x. MINATREE LINCOLN (LINK) PENNINGTON, b. March 25, 1861, > Kentucky; > > > d. > > > > > March 03, 1936, London, New York. > > > > > 4. CAPT. JOHN2 PENNINGTON (ABEL1) was born February 22, 1827 in > Perry > > > > > County, Kentucky, and died August 03, 1905 in Anneville, Kentucky. > He > > > > > married (1) SARAH MOORE. She died Unknown. He married (2) SUSAN KING > > > > PARSLEY > > > > > 1898. She died Unknown. > > > > > Children of JOHN PENNINGTON and SARAH MOORE are: > > > > > i. NANCY3 PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. W. A. HIXON; d. Unknown. > > > > > ii. WILLIAM PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. MARTHA COPE; d. Unknown. > > > > > iii. MINATREE PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > > iv. ELIZABETH PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. TED MEDLOCK; d. Unknown. > > > > > v. LEVI PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > > vi. PRESTON PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. SARAH KING; d. Unknown. > > > > > vii. ELIAS PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. JENNIE BOWLING; d. Unknown. > > > > > viii. JOHN PENNINGTON, JR., d. Unknown; m. BETTY YORK; d. Unknown. > > > > > ix. MARTHA PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. JOHN FLICHUM; d. Unknown. > > > > > x. SELAH PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. ANDY KING; d. Unknown. > > > > > 10. xi. ABEL PENNINGTON, b. May 02, 1847, Booneville, Kentucky; d. > May > > > 30, > > > > > 1913, Livingston, Rock Castle County, Kentucky. > > > > > 5. NANCY2 PENNINGTON (ABEL1) was born December 22, 1829, and died > > > Unknown. > > > > > She married (1) EMANUEL ARNOLD. He died Unknown. She married (2) > > GEORGE > > > > > MCGEE. He died Abt. 1849. > > > > > Children of NANCY PENNINGTON and GEORGE MCGEE are: > > > > > i. LUCRETIA PENNINGTON3 MCGEE, b. Abt. 1847; d. Unknown. > > > > > ii. ROBERT PENNINGTON MCGEE, b. Abt. 1849; d. Unknown. > > > > > > > > > > Generation No. 3 > > > > > 6. PRESTON3 PENNINGTON (LEVI2, ABEL1) was born May 22, 1846, and > died > > > > > Unknown. He married SUSANNAH BALL Bef. 1870. She was born June 12, > > 1845 > > > in > > > > > South Carolina, and died September 08, 1925. > > > > > Children of PRESTON PENNINGTON and SUSANNAH BALL are: > > > > > i. LEVI4 PENNINGTON, b. Abt. 1870; d. Unknown. > > > > > ii. MONROE PENNINGTON, DR., b. September 10, 1872; d. Unknown. > > > > > iii. MAZURAE PENNINGTON, b. Abt. 1873; d. Unknown. > > > > > iv. RACHEL PENNINGTON, b. August 1879; d. Unknown. > > > > > v. JAMES PENNINGTON, DR., b. December 1880; d. Unknown. > > > > > vi. JOHN D. PENNINGTON, b. January 15, 1882; d. December 03, 1961; > m. > > > > > MINNIE; d. Unknown. > > > > > vii. LINCOLN PENNINGTON, b. October 1888; d. Unknown. > > > > > 7. JOHN3 PENNINGTON (LEVI2, ABEL1) was born March 1856 in Kentucky, > > and > > > > died > > > > > Unknown. He married EMATINE. She was born 1875 in Kentucky, and died > > > > > Unknown. > > > > > Child of JOHN PENNINGTON and EMATINE is: > > > > > i. JAMES L.4 PENNINGTON, b. May 1900; d. Unknown. > > > > > 8. ORLEANA3 PENNINGTON (LEVI2, ABEL1) was born April 01, 1858, and > > died > > > > > Unknown. She married HENRY COOK May 08, 1873. He was born January > 23, > > > > 1856, > > > > > and died Unknown. > > > > > Children of ORLEANA PENNINGTON and HENRY COOK are: > > > > > i. VINIA4 COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > > ii. GEORGE COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > > iii. RACHEL COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > > iv. JOHN COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > > v. DORA COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > > vi. LIZZIE COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > > vii. MARY JANE COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > > 9. MINATREE LINCOLN (LINK)3 PENNINGTON (LEVI2, ABEL1) was born March > > 25, > > > > > 1861 in Kentucky, and died March 03, 1936 in London, New York. He > > > married > > > > > MARTHA LUANNA LINA COOK November 06, 1879 in Kentucky. She was born > > > > > September 25, 1866 in Kentucky, and died September 15, 1928 in > > Kentucky. > > > > > Notes for MINATREE LINCOLN (LINK) PENNINGTON: > > > > > Buried in Greenhill Cemetery, Annville, Kentucky. > > > > > Children of MINATREE PENNINGTON and MARTHA COOK are: > > > > > 11. i. WILLIAM WASHINGTON4 PENNINGTON, b. March 14, 1881, Pond > Creek, > > > > > Kentucky; d. April 19, 1950, Deming, New Mexico. > > > > > ii. MARY TELITHA PENNINGTON, b. June 10, 1883; d. November 23, 1966; > > m. > > > > > CHARLY FORESTER; d. Unknown. > > > > > iii. GEORGE WASHINGTON PENNINGTON, b. October 04, 1885; d. Unknown. > > > > > iv. ORLENA JANE PENNINGTON, b. April 04, 1887; d. Unknown. > > > > > v. MARTHA ELLA PENNINGTON, b. May 13, 1889; d. Unknown. > > > > > vi. JOHN WESLEY PENNINGTON, b. September 17, 1891; d. Unknown. > > > > > vii. GREEN MONROE PENNINGTON, b. March 01, 1894; d. Unknown. > > > > > viii. HENRY MCKINLEY PENNINGTON, b. June 08, 1897; d. Unknown. > > > > > ix. CHARLY FORESTER PENNINGTON, b. October 13, 1898; d. Unknown. > > > > > x. ANDY JACKSON PENNINGTON, b. April 03, 1901; d. Unknown. > > > > > xi. PRESTON ROOSEVELT PENNINGTON, b. Private. > > > > > 10. ABEL3 PENNINGTON (JOHN2, ABEL1) was born May 02, 1847 in > > Booneville, > > > > > Kentucky, and died May 30, 1913 in Livingston, Rock Castle County, > > > > Kentucky. > > > > > He married ANGELINE KING December 24, 1867. She was born December > 16, > > > > 1851, > > > > > and died March 03, 1915. > > > > > Children of ABEL PENNINGTON and ANGELINE KING are: > > > > > i. SAMUEL E.4 PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > > ii. ABEL K. PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > > iii. RILLA PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > > iv. EMMA PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > > v. BETTY PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > > vi. SARAH TABITHA PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > > vii. THOMAS J PENNINGTON, b. May 10, 1871; d. Unknown. > > > > > > > > > > Generation No. 4 > > > > > 11. WILLIAM WASHINGTON4 PENNINGTON (MINATREE LINCOLN (LINK)3, LEVI2, > > > > ABEL1) > > > > > was born March 14, 1881 in Pond Creek, Kentucky, and died April 19, > > 1950 > > > > in > > > > > Deming, New Mexico. He married MOLLIE WILSON May 11, 1899 in Jackson > > > > County, > > > > > Kentucky. She was born November 09, 1882 in Kentucky, and died > > September > > > > 17, > > > > > 1908 in 7 Pines, Kentucky. > > > > > Notes for MOLLIE WILSON: > > > > > Buried in Peoples Kentucky unmarked grave > > > > > Children of WILLIAM PENNINGTON and MOLLIE WILSON are: > > > > > i. ETHEL5 PENNINGTON, b. March 12, 1900; d. Unknown. > > > > > ii. ROBERT M. PENNINGTON, b. February 09, 1901; d. Unknown. > > > > > iii. GEORGE DEWEY PENNINGTON, b. January 03, 1903; d. Unknown. > > > > > iv. ANNA M. PENNINGTON, b. Private. > > > > > v. ALFRED BLACKIE PENNINGTON, b. Private. > > > > > vi. MARTHA ELLEN PENNINGTON, b. Private. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > > > Do not post virus warnings on this list. > > > > > Practice safe e-mail habits and only open attachments you are > > expecting > > > > > For addition virus info see http://www.symantec.com/us.index.html or > > > > > http://www.mcafee.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > > The Pennington Research Association Web Site > > > http://penningtonresearch.org > > > for subscribe and unsub instructions, > > > follow the links to e-mail group. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > > Happy Holidays > > > > > > > ==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== > This Pennington mail list is hosted by Rootsweb. > To subscribe to Rootsweb, and show your support of their efforts, see > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > >

--part1_0.731c7a9c.25a38351_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_0.731c7a9c.25a38351_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: [email protected] From: [email protected] Full-name: Orfenanny Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:06:03 EST Subject: Elizabeth PENNINGTON To: [email protected], [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Hello all.....I am posting again to see if I can spark any connections at all... First, I am the gggranddaughter of Elizabeth PENNINGTON b. circa 1822 and married sometime in mid to late 1840's (by birthdates of children) to James R. (or K) HUGHES. They are first found by me in 1850 in Jackson County TN census living next to Uriah PENNINGTON. The name is spelled HUES on the census instead of HUGHES. Children of James and Elizabeth that I know of were: Nancy J. b. circa 1842 in TN (married a SNODGRASS in AR on Feb 15, 1860) John W. b. circa 1844....was a preacher in Benton/Wash County, AR Cynthia A. b, circa1846 in TN...married a HAWKINS Abram b. 21 Jan 1849 in Jackson County, TN married Mary "Mollie" Rowan McKinney....and lived in Salem AR most of his married life. Lydia b. 01 Apr 1852 in TN married Joseph LUDIKER in MO and died in Boise, ID in 1940 S. M. (per census in AR 1860) male William Kennedy b. 14 Mar 1856 in Franklin County, AR..married Sarah Elizabeth DEARING in Washington County, AR in 1881. James J. b. 1858 in AR. I find James in MO in 1870...but Elizabeth is not with him...he has remarried to a Caroline Carter who was a widow...living in household of her daughter and son-in-law...George and Melvina GOODNIGHT. I am assuming that Elizabeth died. I also found an Abraham HUGHES living next to a PENNINGTON in Jackson County, TN in 1840. Now.....I have copied and pasted an email I received last year in hopes someone see see something that will help.... Please see below...and let me know if anyone has any ideas. Thanks so much!!!! and HAPPY NEW YEAR Judie <<Hi Linda and Everyone, (Linda, please forward again for me.) Regarding Elizabeth Pennington, daughter of Samuel and Lydia Pennington, I did not have much information on her other than name and birthdate. It appears probable that she is the same as the Elizabeth "Nettie" Pennington Hughes. If I remember correctly, most of Samuel's children named one daughter Lydia. So this would seem to tie her to Samuel's family. Also, Elizabeth had a brother named William and a sister named Nancy (see below). Of course, this is all just speculation on my part, but it appears very likely they are related. At any rate, Samuel and Lydia were married 28 May 1815 in Cumberland County, KY (now Monroe County). Samuel, of course, being a son of Simeon Pennington and Elizabeth "Betsy" Pate Pennington. Samuel was born abt 1792; and Lydia (Unknown) was born about 1792 in Tennessee, and died between 1860 and 1870 in Jackson County, TN. Samuel was married to Ruth (Unknown) by the time of the 1870 Census. Ruth was born about 1804 in South Carolina. There are no records of any children born to the second marriage. Besides, they both were pretty elderly by 1870. As far as Penningtons migrating to Arkansas, I am not sure about that. But I do know that Clinton Plumlee and Nancy Pennington Plumlee went to Arkansas (see below). There were a lot of Plumlees, as well as other families, from Jackson County that ended up in that State. Here are the children (that I have listed) of Samuel Pennington and Lydia (Unknown) Pennington (all born in Jackson County, TN): 1) Mary "Polly" Pennington born abt 1817; married abt 1836 to John Garner; and died before 1860 in Jackson County, TN. 2) William Pennington born 1819; married abt 1840 to Mary (Unknown). 3) Elizabeth Pennington born abt 1821. 4) Welcome Pennington born 10 January 1823; married abt 1844 to Mahala Moore; and died 6 April 1908 in Clay County, TN. 5) Nancy Pennington born 1825; married abt 1845 to Clinton Plumlee; and died in 1908 in Compton, Arkansas. 6) Jane "Jenny" Pennington born September 1830; married 1855 to Job Plumlee. 7) Unknown Daughter Pennington born abt 1832. From records that I have searched, there appears to be some confusion regarding the last two daughters that I have listed above. And I have seen the dates and information concerning them mixed-up. But according to Census records there were definitely two daughters. I hope that this information will help a little bit. At the very least, it will give Judy a starting point for more research. I will write more later this weekend. Best Regards, Jim Short>> --part1_0.731c7a9c.25a38351_boundary--

I have not heard anything as to when we are suppose to send in our renewal in order to make sure we get the January magazine, can someone inform me? Mary

Mary, I was looking for the parents of my Ephriam PENNINGTON and found Hiram PENNINGTON married to Margaret Ann PICKLE, both from Monroe County, TN. Hiram was the s/o John PENNINGTON (b 27 Oct 1801 NC, died 27 Aug 1867) and Alpha DAVIS (B 1802 KY died 1872). Margaret was the d/o Jonathan PICKLE (15 Feb 1790 VA, died 24 Sep 1854 TN) and Elizabeth CUNNINGHAM (Married 23 Jun 1818). Hope this might help you with your PENNINGTON/PICKLE connection. Sadly this is not my line. Carolyn Christian Martin >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [PENNINGTON-L] Pennington- Pickle >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:25:53 EST > >Is there any cousins out there that has any Pickles in their family tree. >My aunt Martha E. Pennington, Levi's sister, married George Washington >Pickle. >Thank you Mary. > > >==== PENNINGTON Mailing List ==== >Threaded archives can now be found at >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/PENNINGTON-L/ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Dear Carmen, The information and documentation was provided to the PRA many years ago by a cousin who was active in PRA for many years. Rather than reinvent the wheel, it's seems that all this information should be available from the PRA, especially to a group leader such as yourself. But it appears that the organization has either lost or is ignoring all of the painstaking research in courthouses, cemeteries etc. undertaken by my family. When I've asked PRA "officials" if they have any info on my line I'm ignored, or my postings/queries are picked apart without documented alternatives, and I find out later that I was correct. I suppose you could say this is also an open letter to the powers that be. I thought that joining the PRA would make it possible to compare new research with that which we already had. But it appears that the PRA is more concerned with hiding information that with sharing. I've helped several people find their line (through private email) - even people who have been members for several years - but have received little if any help from the official organization. I've been following the copyright debate with some interest. I understand that some people might not want to share information for various reasons, but frankly those people should not be members of an organization ostensibly dedicated to sharing information. And to that end the PRA should be focused on finding ways to make it easier for members to share. There seem to be a few groups working together; the PRA as a whole needs to do the same. But even I am afraid to share at this point because the atmosphere has become so contentious and antiproductive. I got into this because I thought it would be fun and because I wanted to do something for my daughter, who has Penningtons on both sides. Little did I suspect that I was stepping into the middle of "X-Files meets Saturday Night Wrestling." Both my husband and I vote to have Carolyn McDaniel reinstated to the list, if she is interested. She and my husband's sister helped one another with some research a few years ago. Even though we cringe at some of her political digressions, we think her genealogical instincts are correct, and that the PRA benefits from her input. I do have a relatively new group leader (Martha Mourning), and I look forward to working with her after I get settled in after my recent move from Nevada to California. I firmly believe that many of the PRA groups are connected, but those connections will never be made if we don't even know what information already exists at the PRA. I hope this letter spurs some constructive discussion. Cari (and Bob) Bartley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]>I To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [PENNINGTON-L] Abel Pennington m. Elizabeth Bolling > Dear Cari, > The information certainly helps...Can you give me the basics with > references, if possible on Able Pennington. His parents, etc. I have > nothing on him right now and hesitate to enter the info that I got into my > gedcom without checking its accuracy. I would certainly appreciate it! > > Carmen Johnson > PRA Group 7 Leader > Pennington Page: > http://members.xoom.com/carmenj/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > Home Page: http://members.xoom.com/carmenj > Genealogy Page: http://users.lewiston.com/carmenj > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Bartley" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 5:36 PM > Subject: Fw: [PENNINGTON-L] Abel Pennington m. Elizabeth Bolling > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cari" <[email protected]> > > To: "Bob A Bartley" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 5:31 PM > > Subject : Abel Pennington m. Elizabeth Bolling > > > > > > > Dear Carmen, > > > > > > My family notes (group #30) show that Abel born July 8, 1797 married > > > Elizabeth (Betsy) Bolling on the same date and place that you have > > > mentioned. I also have notes that say he was born in Greenville SC. He > > had > > > brothers and sisters that we have info on, but some family sources say > > that > > > he had brothers also named Levi, John and a possible William. Abel's > > brother > > > Preston was born Oct. 31, 1804 in TN or KY and died Aug. 9, 1875 in > > > Montgomery Co. IN but his grave is in North Salem IN. We have many > > Levi's. > > > I have a cousin in her 80's who has been doing research for over 40 > years, > > > she said she supplied much information to the PRA but is not sure if it > > was > > > ever used or filed. The Abel above is called Abel 3 in my family. My > > G.G.G. > > > Grandfather was Minatree 1832 - 1879. His father was Hampton 1803-1841 > and > > a > > > brother of the Abel who married Elizabeth Bolling. We have many > marriages > > > into the Stewart family. The Turner and Lewis names also keep coming up > as > > > do a few others. Does any of this help? > > > > > > Cari Bartley > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Carmen M. Johnson" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 11:55 PM > > > Subject: [PENNINGTON-L] Abel Pennington m. Elizabeth Bolling > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if anyone could confirm the following info and provide > > > some > > > > supporting data or fill in some blanks...please let me know. > > > > > > > > Carmen > > > > PRA Group 7 Leader > > > > Pennington Page: > > > > http://members.xoom.com/carmenj/PenningtonPage/PRAGroup7.htm > > > > Home Page: http://members.xoom.com/carmenj > > > > Genealogy Page: http://users.lewiston.com/carmenj > > > > > > > > Descendants of Abel Pennington > > > > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > 1. ABEL1 PENNINGTON was born July 08, 1797, and died January 16, 1881 > in > > > > Jackson County, Kentucky. He married ELIZABETH BOLLING April 15, 1815 > in > > > > Clay County, Kentucky, daughter of JESSE BOLLING and MARY PENNINGTON. > > She > > > > was born April 1794, and died February 1866 in Jackson County, > Kentucky. > > > > Children of ABEL PENNINGTON and ELIZABETH BOLLING are: > > > > 2. i. RACHEL2 PENNINGTON, b. December 25, 1817; d. 1884. > > > > 3. ii. LEVI PENNINGTON, b. August 30, 1821, Perry County, Kentucky; d. > > > > December 29, 1862, Vicksburg, Mississippi (Chicasaw Bayou). > > > > iii. PRESTON PENNINGTON, b. Abt. 1824, Kentucky; d. February 18, 1866, > > > > Jackson County, Kentucky; m. MARY MOOR; d. Unknown. > > > > Notes for PRESTON PENNINGTON: > > > > Buried in Annville, Kentucky > > > > More About PRESTON PENNINGTON: > > > > Cause of Death: Dysentery (Civil War) > > > > iv. MARY JANE PENNINGTON, b. January 24, 1824; d. Unknown; m. JOHN C. > > > > (CHUCK) TURNER; d. Unknown. > > > > 4. v. CAPT. JOHN PENNINGTON, b. February 22, 1827, Perry County, > > Kentucky; > > > > d. August 03, 1905, Anneville, Kentucky. > > > > 5. vi. NANCY PENNINGTON, b. December 22, 1829; d. Unknown. > > > > > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > 2. RACHEL2 PENNINGTON (ABEL1) was born December 25, 1817, and died > 1884. > > > She > > > > married SAMUEL JOHNSON January 23, 1832. He was born 1808, and died > > 1903. > > > > Children of RACHEL PENNINGTON and SAMUEL JOHNSON are: > > > > i. ANDERSON3 JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > ii. GEORGE W. JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > iii. HENDERSON JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > iv. LEVI PENNINGTON JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > v. ABIJAH JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > vi. ELIZABETH JOHNSON, d. Unknown; m. WILLIAM GABBARD; b. 1834; d. > > > Unknown. > > > > vii. NANCY JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > viii. JAMES JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > ix. LUCINDA JOHNSON, d. Unknown. > > > > 3. LEVI2 PENNINGTON (ABEL1) was born August 30, 1821 in Perry County, > > > > Kentucky, and died December 29, 1862 in Vicksburg, Mississippi > (Chicasaw > > > > Bayou). He married RACHEL CORNETT COMBS November 10, 1842 in Perry > > County, > > > > Kentucky. She was born October 10, 1824, and died June 05, 1908 in > > Jackson > > > > County, Kentucky. > > > > Children of LEVI PENNINGTON and RACHEL COMBS are: > > > > i. ELIHUE PENNINGTON3 PENNINGTON, b. September 06, 1843; d. Unknown. > > > > ii. MANERY JANE PENNINGTON, b. February 21, 1845; d. Unknown. > > > > 6. iii. PRESTON PENNINGTON, b. May 22, 1846; d. Unknown. > > > > iv. ELEANOR PENNINGTON, b. Abt. 1848; d. Unknown. > > > > v. MEARTHA PENNINGTON, b. Abt. 1850; d. Unknown. > > > > vi. MARY PENNINGTON, b. Abt. 1853; d. Unknown. > > > > vii. LUCY PENNINGTON, b. March 1854, Kentucky; d. September 01, 1885, > > > > Kentucky. > > > > 7. viii. JOHN PENNINGTON, b. March 1856, Kentucky; d. Unknown. > > > > 8. ix. ORLEANA PENNINGTON, b. April 01, 1858; d. Unknown. > > > > 9. x. MINATREE LINCOLN (LINK) PENNINGTON, b. March 25, 1861, Kentucky; > > d. > > > > March 03, 1936, London, New York. > > > > 4. CAPT. JOHN2 PENNINGTON (ABEL1) was born February 22, 1827 in Perry > > > > County, Kentucky, and died August 03, 1905 in Anneville, Kentucky. He > > > > married (1) SARAH MOORE. She died Unknown. He married (2) SUSAN KING > > > PARSLEY > > > > 1898. She died Unknown. > > > > Children of JOHN PENNINGTON and SARAH MOORE are: > > > > i. NANCY3 PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. W. A. HIXON; d. Unknown. > > > > ii. WILLIAM PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. MARTHA COPE; d. Unknown. > > > > iii. MINATREE PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > iv. ELIZABETH PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. TED MEDLOCK; d. Unknown. > > > > v. LEVI PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > vi. PRESTON PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. SARAH KING; d. Unknown. > > > > vii. ELIAS PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. JENNIE BOWLING; d. Unknown. > > > > viii. JOHN PENNINGTON, JR., d. Unknown; m. BETTY YORK; d. Unknown. > > > > ix. MARTHA PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. JOHN FLICHUM; d. Unknown. > > > > x. SELAH PENNINGTON, d. Unknown; m. ANDY KING; d. Unknown. > > > > 10. xi. ABEL PENNINGTON, b. May 02, 1847, Booneville, Kentucky; d. May > > 30, > > > > 1913, Livingston, Rock Castle County, Kentucky. > > > > 5. NANCY2 PENNINGTON (ABEL1) was born December 22, 1829, and died > > Unknown. > > > > She married (1) EMANUEL ARNOLD. He died Unknown. She married (2) > GEORGE > > > > MCGEE. He died Abt. 1849. > > > > Children of NANCY PENNINGTON and GEORGE MCGEE are: > > > > i. LUCRETIA PENNINGTON3 MCGEE, b. Abt. 1847; d. Unknown. > > > > ii. ROBERT PENNINGTON MCGEE, b. Abt. 1849; d. Unknown. > > > > > > > > Generation No. 3 > > > > 6. PRESTON3 PENNINGTON (LEVI2, ABEL1) was born May 22, 1846, and died > > > > Unknown. He married SUSANNAH BALL Bef. 1870. She was born June 12, > 1845 > > in > > > > South Carolina, and died September 08, 1925. > > > > Children of PRESTON PENNINGTON and SUSANNAH BALL are: > > > > i. LEVI4 PENNINGTON, b. Abt. 1870; d. Unknown. > > > > ii. MONROE PENNINGTON, DR., b. September 10, 1872; d. Unknown. > > > > iii. MAZURAE PENNINGTON, b. Abt. 1873; d. Unknown. > > > > iv. RACHEL PENNINGTON, b. August 1879; d. Unknown. > > > > v. JAMES PENNINGTON, DR., b. December 1880; d. Unknown. > > > > vi. JOHN D. PENNINGTON, b. January 15, 1882; d. December 03, 1961; m. > > > > MINNIE; d. Unknown. > > > > vii. LINCOLN PENNINGTON, b. October 1888; d. Unknown. > > > > 7. JOHN3 PENNINGTON (LEVI2, ABEL1) was born March 1856 in Kentucky, > and > > > died > > > > Unknown. He married EMATINE. She was born 1875 in Kentucky, and died > > > > Unknown. > > > > Child of JOHN PENNINGTON and EMATINE is: > > > > i. JAMES L.4 PENNINGTON, b. May 1900; d. Unknown. > > > > 8. ORLEANA3 PENNINGTON (LEVI2, ABEL1) was born April 01, 1858, and > died > > > > Unknown. She married HENRY COOK May 08, 1873. He was born January 23, > > > 1856, > > > > and died Unknown. > > > > Children of ORLEANA PENNINGTON and HENRY COOK are: > > > > i. VINIA4 COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > ii. GEORGE COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > iii. RACHEL COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > iv. JOHN COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > v. DORA COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > vi. LIZZIE COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > vii. MARY JANE COOK, d. Unknown. > > > > 9. MINATREE LINCOLN (LINK)3 PENNINGTON (LEVI2, ABEL1) was born March > 25, > > > > 1861 in Kentucky, and died March 03, 1936 in London, New York. He > > married > > > > MARTHA LUANNA LINA COOK November 06, 1879 in Kentucky. She was born > > > > September 25, 1866 in Kentucky, and died September 15, 1928 in > Kentucky. > > > > Notes for MINATREE LINCOLN (LINK) PENNINGTON: > > > > Buried in Greenhill Cemetery, Annville, Kentucky. > > > > Children of MINATREE PENNINGTON and MARTHA COOK are: > > > > 11. i. WILLIAM WASHINGTON4 PENNINGTON, b. March 14, 1881, Pond Creek, > > > > Kentucky; d. April 19, 1950, Deming, New Mexico. > > > > ii. MARY TELITHA PENNINGTON, b. June 10, 1883; d. November 23, 1966; > m. > > > > CHARLY FORESTER; d. Unknown. > > > > iii. GEORGE WASHINGTON PENNINGTON, b. October 04, 1885; d. Unknown. > > > > iv. ORLENA JANE PENNINGTON, b. April 04, 1887; d. Unknown. > > > > v. MARTHA ELLA PENNINGTON, b. May 13, 1889; d. Unknown. > > > > vi. JOHN WESLEY PENNINGTON, b. September 17, 1891; d. Unknown. > > > > vii. GREEN MONROE PENNINGTON, b. March 01, 1894; d. Unknown. > > > > viii. HENRY MCKINLEY PENNINGTON, b. June 08, 1897; d. Unknown. > > > > ix. CHARLY FORESTER PENNINGTON, b. October 13, 1898; d. Unknown. > > > > x. ANDY JACKSON PENNINGTON, b. April 03, 1901; d. Unknown. > > > > xi. PRESTON ROOSEVELT PENNINGTON, b. Private. > > > > 10. ABEL3 PENNINGTON (JOHN2, ABEL1) was born May 02, 1847 in > Booneville, > > > > Kentucky, and died May 30, 1913 in Livingston, Rock Castle County, > > > Kentucky. > > > > He married ANGELINE KING December 24, 1867. She was born December 16, > > > 1851, > > > > and died March 03, 1915. > > > > Children of ABEL PENNINGTON and ANGELINE KING are: > > > > i. SAMUEL E.4 PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > ii. ABEL K. PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > iii. RILLA PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > iv. EMMA PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > v. BETTY PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > vi. SARAH TABITHA PENNINGTON, d. Unknown. > > > > vii. THOMAS J PENNINGTON, b. May 10, 1871; d. Unknown. > > > > > > > > Generation No. 4 > > > > 11. WILLIAM WASHINGTON4 PENNINGTON (MINATREE LINCOLN (LINK)3, LEVI2, > > > ABEL1) > > > > was born March 14, 1881 in Pond Creek, Kentucky, and died April 19, > 1950 > > > in > > > > Deming, New Mexico. He married MOLLIE WILSON May 11, 1899 in Jackson > > > County, > > > > Kentucky. She was born November 09, 1882 in Kentucky, and died > September > > > 17, > > > > 1908 in 7 Pines, Kentucky. > > > > Notes for MOLLIE WILSON: > > > > Buried in Peoples Kentucky unmarked grave > > > > Children of WILLIAM PENNINGTON and MOLLIE WILSON are: > > > > i. ETHEL5 PENNINGTON, b. March 12, 1900; d. Unknown. > > > > ii. ROBERT M. PENNINGTON, b. February 09, 1901; d. Unknown. > > > > iii. GEORGE DEWEY PENNINGTON, b. January 03, 1903; d. Unknown. > > > > iv. ANNA M. PENNINGTON, b. Private. > > > > v. ALFRED BLACKIE PENNINGTON, b. Private. > > > > vi. MARTHA ELLEN PENNINGTON, b. 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