Hi L.A.McGinnis, Thank you for responding to my post. For three years I have been seeking information on the Sebastian (Bastier) Pollard (hereinafter referred to as Sebastian). This is the name of my G-G-Grandfather who came to the U.S. from the Pyrenees Mountains of Southern France. I am told that he lived in the Pyrenees Mountains of Southern France in the 19th century. Apparently he was born between 1790 and 1815. According to family history his is somehow related to the Bonaparte (Buonaparte) family of Corsica. Sebastian Pollard is said to have come to the United States by way of New Orleans, Louisiana sometime in 1857 (but he may have been in the U.S. much earlier). He was known to speak French, German, and English -- my G-Grandfather grew up speaking German, too. However, I do not know when he was born or whether or not he was native to the Pyrenees Mountains of Southern France. My G-G-Grandfather Pollard is said to have married a Ms. Sallie Kinder (Kunder?) in Louisiana, Pennsylvania or Early Oregon Territory; sometime in the mid-late 19th century: http://www.isu.edu/~trinmich/Oregontrail.html http://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/wpages/wpgs300/3whitman.htm. Sallie's Kinder father was said to be Asa Kinder and her mother was said to be a Mrs. Frances Blux, Blue, or Bilyeu (?). Both Asa and Frances were said to be from Holland or Germany. I am told that Frances was said to have family in Illinois, Canada, New York, and Pennsylvania. I should also not that Asa, Frances and Sallie spoke German (possibly French?) and English, too. Sebastian Pollard was killed when my G-Grandfather, William Richard Pollard was six months old -- sometime between 1871-1872. Within several years of my G-G-Grandfather Pollard’s death, by G-G-Grandmother remarried. In 1884-1885, my G-G-Grandmother Pollard died or was killed under questionable circumstances. Shortly thereafter, her second husband was killed in a fire which destroyed their home. Presently, I am seeking information which connects my Pollard’s with Early Oregon Territory Pollard’s. For example, I am told that my Pollard’s lived in Pollard, Washington: http://extra.entisoft.com/P/o/Pollard.HTM and Walla Walla, Washington: http://www.peak.org/~mransom/pioneers.html during the 19th century. But, so far I have been unable to confirm a genealogical connection with Early Oregon Territory Pollard’s and my Early Oregon Territory Pollard’s. In the meantime, with the aid of my family history, I have found a record of B.F. Pollard (Bastier Pollard?) traveling on the Steamship Texas in New Orleans, Louisiana, on January 16th, 1857. The Steamship Texas was traveling from either New York or California and was on its' way to the San Juans (Havana Cuba) in the West Indies. The ships log indicates that B.F. Pollard may either have been a citizen of the United States or of Germany but the log is not easy for me to read. So, depending on how you read it, the log may read that he was: a U.S. citizen, a German citizen, and that he may possibly have been a lawyer (?). I have had two professional genealogists look up this ship log on microfilm. One says that he was a German lawyer and the other says he was a United States citizen. Anyway, although B.F. Pollard corresponds with my family history, I do not know if he is connected to my Pollard’s; I am simply exploring my a possible lead. Moving right along, Sebastian Pollard is said to have fought in “Napoleons Army” or as they say in French, “L’Armee de Napoleon." By the way, Sebastian is said to have come to the United States with several Generals and a Lieutenant of Napoleons Army: Bernard/Benard, George, Charles, or William. I am also told that my G-G-Grandfather hired three, as yet unidentified, men to purchase land in Early Oregon Territory, the Willamette Valley; totaling one square mile (1609,33m.). My G-G-Grandfather Sebastian Pollard was said to have a cousin in the Texas Army, Calvary or Rangers. And, he was said to have a cousin, Athiela (I do not know the correct spelling but that's what the name sounds like), who died in Florida. The bottom line is that I am seeking any information on: (1) the Pollard surname, (2) Champs d’Asile (Field of Asylum) c. 1818-1819 (Texas), (3) Champs d’Aiglon (Field of Eagles) c. 1818-1819 (Alabama). I welcome any objective information to confirm, deny, or connect my Early Oregon Territory Pioneers. Thank you for your help and your time. Best, Dick Pollard [email protected] http://home1.gte.net/pollard/index.htm P.S., After three years of research, last summer and winter I found some Web sites on the Bonaparte’s in America (W3 search engines are getting better all the time): The Bonaparte’s in Philadelphia: http://www.libertynet.org/athena/bon1.html The Bonaparte’s in America: http://www.heraldica.org/topics/usa/bonapart.htm The Bonaparte’s in Texas: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/web_fetch_doc?dataset=tsha.dst&db=handbook&doc_id=20968&query=Jerome+Bonaparte The Beauharnais in the West Indies: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/cgi-bin/web_fetch_doc?dataset=tsha.dst&db=handbook&doc_id=14480&query=Beauharnais "L.A.McGinnis" wrote: > Think I may be able to help - with recalling my school years taking > French - > as well as connecting to a possible 'cuz' Pollard > line - > > >Any French speakers out there? > > > >RE: [PENNA-DUTCH-L] PHILADELPHIA BONAPARTE's > > did not think Pollard line was French - but may very be. > [ne pense pas Pollard est francais - mais possible] > > > > >>>Je cherche por le patronyme Pollard et le nom Sebastien ou Bastier > >(surnom). C'est le nom de mon g-g-grand pere des Pyrenees a Sud France. > >Mon g-g-grand-pere, Bastier/Sebastian/Sebastien POLLARD est la > >connection -- epellation correct? > > no connection with any but Pollard - see line(s) at > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8379/pollard.html > [le connection n'est pas avec Bastier ou Sebastian ou Sebastien mais > Pollard - avez http://www.geocities.com/Heartlans/Fields/8379/pollard.html] > > > > >Je sais qu'il est habite de la rigion des Pyrenees en Sud France dans le > >dix-neuvieme (19e) siecle. Et, je sais qu'il etait ne entre 1790 et > >1815. Et ma famille me dites qu'il etait de la famille > >Bonaparte/Buonaparte; et qu'il etait avec L'Armee de Napoleon. Il est > >venu aux Etats-Unis par New Orleans, Louisiana (USA) entre l'annee 1818 > >(?) et 1857. > > what about 18C? - mine in states by 1750's (Am. Rev.); sure > would like to connect further back. > > [ qu'est-ce que c'est le 18e? - le mien dans l'etats unis par le > revolution; certainement apprecier connection plus eloigne] > > > > >J’ai trouver un record de B.F.Pollard sur la Steamship Texas en New > >Orleans c. Janvier 16, 1857. Il etait en route de San Juans/Havana > >(Cuba dans le West Indies) de New York ou California (USA) -- Texas > >(USA)?. Si’l etait mon g-g-grand pere, le record m’indiquer que mon > >g-g-grand pere arriver de Allemand (aux Etats-Unis) et qu’il etait un > >avocat. Mais le patronyme Pollard n’est pas allemand ou francais, non > >plus. Mais, l’information de son arriver et d'allemand correspondre > >avec l’information de ma famille. > > Pollard isn't then French? - but may be German; mine came from > Britain to states. > [Pollard n'est pas francais? - mais oui est possible allemand; le mien de > Grande-Bretagne a Etats-Unis > ] > > > >Encore, il est venu aux Etats-Unis avec deux Generales et un Lieutenant > >qu'etait dans L'Armee de Napoleon: Bernard, George, Charles, ou > >Guillaume(?) Ou un General est-un Lieutenant qu'etait dans L'Armee de > >Napoleon, aussi bien. C'est importante a dites que mon g-g-grand pere > >donner trois hommes monnaie a acheter terre, un mille (1609,33m.), a > >Early Oregon Territory, mais je pas connais leur noms. Et, c'est > >importante a dites que je sais qu'il a parle: (1) francais, (2) > >allemand, et (3) anglais. > > good - then we can communicate - your dates confuse me; does > your line go back this far? > [bon - alors nous parlons (je parle l'anglais et un peu le francais, mais > retablier de l'ecole jours) - votre dites mon confondre; qu'est-ce que c'est > votre lignee savoir vers connaitre] > > > > >Mais, je n'ai pas: (1) son date de naissance, ou (2) la place de son > >naissance, seulemenet le fact que il est arriver de le Pyrenees a Sud > >France. Mais, je sais qu'il m. Sally/Sallie/Frances (?) Kinder/Kunder > >(pronouncer K’nder) aux Etats-Unis vers 1850-1865 (?) en Pennsylvania, > >Louisiana, ou Early Oregon Territory, USA. Et que sa mere etait Mme. > >Blux, Blue, ou Bilyeu (?). > > migration patterns were longer than this generally - any > information as to religion or ? > [votre dites est bref; qu'est-ce que c'est additionnel information > (religieux) ? - ] > > > > >Et qu’elle avait famille aux Illinois, Canada, New York, et > >Pennsylvania - rechercher m'indiquer que Sally/Sallie/Frances est de > >Pennsylvania (USA). C'est importante a dites que je sais qu'il a parle: > >(1) allemand, et (2) anglais. Bastier/Sebastian/Sebastien, il etait > >entre 70 et 94 ans quand mon G-Grand-pere etait ne en 1871-1872. Alors, > >it etait tres vieux quand il est mort (faire mourir) dans le meme annee > >(1871-1872). > > > >En Amerique, il est habite a Early Oregon Territory: (1) > >Pollard, Washington: http://extra.entisoft.com/P/o/Pollard.HTM -- > >maintenant Republic, Washington, et (6) la Willamette Valley, Oregon. > >Encore, il a un cousin, l’oncle de ma g-g-grand pere, Pollard, aux Texas > >(USA) -- il etait dans L’Armee (Army/Calvary) Americaine a Texas (USA). > > will contact him too > [je suis en contacte aussi] > > > > >Enfin, je suis en train de rechercher mes ancestres. Alors, je recherche > >l'origine du nom de ma famille POLLARD. Est-ce qu'un dirivitif francais > >ou d'un nom anglais? Et, por cette raison je voudrais savoir le > >genealogie de: (1) la famille Bonaparte/Buonaparte - frere, cousin, > >etc., (2) L’Armee de Napoleon - avez vous cette information? et (3) des > >Pyrenees. Comment puis-je les trouver pour progresser dans mes > >recherches? Je vous remercie beaucoup d'avance. Merci de votre aide et > >mercie d'avance. > > > with all the best of wishes to you and yours, > your fellow researcher, > anne-ology > [email protected] > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/8379/index.html > > [avec meilleurs voeux a vous > et votre, > votre comarade rechercher, ] > ADAMS - ACTON - AREW - BABCOCK - BARCLAY - BELCHER - BENSON - BEAUFORD - > BEAUMONT - BIGGS - BLOIS(E)/BLOYS(E) - BLOUNT - BREWSTER - BRINTON - BROWN - > BULSTRODE - BURTIS - CARY - CEDARCRAFT - CHAMPL(A)IN - CHAMPLIN - CLARE - > CLARK(E) - CLIFFORD - COLLINS - COLLINS - COOK - DE BEAUFORD - DE BEAUMONT - > DE CLARE - DE CLIFFORD - DE LACIE - DE NEVILLE - DE PERCY - DE QUINCY - > DAUGHERTY - DENISON - ECHINGHAM - ENDICOTT - ENLOES/ENLOWS - FISHER - FITZ > MAURICE - GORHAM - GRIFFITH - HALL - HAZARD - HEART(T) - HENDRECKS - > HOLDBROOK - HOLMES - HOWLAND - HOWSER - HURST - JAYNE - JOHNSON - > KINDLOSSON - LACIE - LAWTON - LEACH - LEWIS - LUDLOW - MARSHALL - MARTIN - > MARTYN - MACMURROUGH - MCGINNIS - MOORE - MOTT - NEVILLE - PERCY - POLLARD - > POTTER - PURRIER - PYLE - QUINCY - RINGWOOD - ROBINSON - ROCKET(T) - RYMER - > SCHENK - SELL - SHARP - (SEVER)SMITH - SILVERTHORNE - SMITH - SMITH - > STANHOPE - TALBOTT - TAYLOR - THATCHER - THOMPSON - THOMPSON - TILLEY - > TYLER - VERMAN DOIS - WALKER - WHEELER - WHITEHEAD - WRIGHT - > WINDSOR/WYNDSOR(E) - - ETC. to Wyndsore, to Plantagenets/d'Anjou , to > Charlemange, to Constantine, to Aedd Mawr, ETC. to Ethelred I, Alfred the > Great, ETC. 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