Thank you, Joan: Yes, I know about working back one generation at a time; been at this 17 years and we've gone back more generations than that in Germany,m in my wife's families. But it hasn't worked for the OWen line so far; that's why I was hoping you'dhave info. That you don't is not your fault, but I was hoping :-) So far, the Lancaster Co. records have not yielded any help on "getting back", (see above). I DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT FTM VOL.; COULD YOU FWD. YOUR INFO TO ME?? Thanks for your suggestions on the books to seek out at the library. I'll do that before we go on our trip. Always looking for the "easier" way out, I had hoped that you'd have some "leads." Again, that you don't is not your fault!! I'm just going to have to dig into the hard-core research and see if I can get the leads that answer my questions. Lancaster Co. is a bearcat!! At least for my line!! Thanks again for your help and suggestions. Dave Ross Denver, CO