Dear Hal, Thank you for writing and wanting to help me with my Kurtz research. The girl you mentioned "Laurie Kurtz" from California is not a familiar name to me. Since I have just learned that Elias Kurtz left his first family and moved to California and remarried and then died in Oregon leaves me with just that information. Now I need to work backwards. I am keeping a copy of your email and if I come across the name Laurie Kurtz I will get back to you. I do thank you again for your help. I hope you are enjoying your weekend. "God Bless," Lisa