I want to thank all who responded, and there were a lot of you, to my question about the Penna German church records on CD's. There seems to be some difference of opinion as to whether they are worth having, but a number of people who do have them looked for my Penrose FRANK and there is unanimous agreement that he is not there, nor is he on the Vital Statistics CD's that some of you also have and went far beyond the call and also looked for him on those. So I really appreciate this and I will not be buying them in the near future. It looks as if I may have to get down to some serious work and look for him in the census. And look harder for his wife, Mary E. SCHULTZ, b 1849. She is supposed to have had a brother named William SCHULTZ who was a doctor; if this is true he must have left a paper trail. Anyone know of such a person? It may have been spelled SHULTZ. I suppose he was born in the 1840s or 1850s, somewhere down there in Dauphin or Lancaster or Berks or who knows counties. He also ended up in Erie. -- jan <janiceaf@ix.netcom.com> Researching names: FRANK, KELLER, LUPHER/LUPFER, PENROSE, SCHULTZ, TAYLOR ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== New? Looking for a quick connection? Visit the surnames list associated with this mail list at http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pdlsurnames.html