In a message dated 97-10-28 05:17:53 EST, you write: << I usually order the Military record first... then the pension record (if he lived that long)... Good Luck! EllieSS@aol.com >> He did not have to live at all. After his death his widow or even his parents could apply for a pension. MarilynT ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== New? Looking for a quick connection? Visit the surnames list associated with this mail list at http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pdlsurnames.html