Hi: An exception exists for the 1733 Elizabeth. In Strassburger & Hinke's Pennsylvania German Pioneers, Vol. 1, Appendix I are found the names of women and children, including some named Troud and Ley. Don Billet -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH-L] Lau connection >In a message dated 5/17/99 12:37:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > >> Try Johann Georg (Hans Yurich) Ley; b. ca 1705, perhaps in >> Baden or in A/L. Came to America (Philadelphia) 1733 on the Eliza. Wed >> Maria Elisabetha Traudt/Traut/Trout, probably in Germany or A/L. > >Here is what I was able to find. On the ship Elizabeth in 1733 on list A >there is a Hans Martin Troud, age 56; and next on the list is Hans Jurigh >Ley, sick, age 28. On lists B and C Hans Jurigh Ley's name does NOT appear >indicating he may have been detained on the ship since he was sick. The name >Johan Debalt Trautt DOES appear on both lists B & C. He signed his own name >to those two lists so I believe his name is correct as he wrote it >himself--Johan Debalt Trautt. > >My guess is that he would have been Hans Jurigh's (Georg) father in law or >other close relative. The women's names don't appear on these lists so I >think it is quite likely that the couple were already married and Georg's >wife and father-in-law (or both parents) accompanied them on the trip. > >These families don't appear in the Burgert book listing emigrants from >Northern Alsace--unfortunately I don't have the other books by her to check >them. You might want to try to locate them in a library near you. > >Joan > > >==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== >Welcome to our list! We are always friendly here. > >