Roger, I think you are right and this needed to be said. Some of the Germans came to America because they trusted the British, compared to what they had come from, and they had somewhat, er, restrained enthusiasm for the Revolution. My 4ggf Daniel FRANK 1747-1814 was no pacifist; he was in the Lancaster militia, was a sergeant in fact. Nevertheless I have always suspected he was something of a closet Anglophile. He was born Moravian (I have his bapt record) and he died Moravian (I have his Lebenslauf), but in between he was married in 1768 in St James's Church (Anglican) in Lancaster. Moreover, he named one of his daughters, b in 1785, Charlotte. Now this was at a time when most PaGerman girls had names like Anna Catherina or Maria Elizabetha (and in fact her sisters did). So why Charlotte? Eventually I figured out that Charlotte was the Queen of England at the time. And note that this was *after* the Revolution. Jan Roger wrote: > > I'm Canadian and PA Dutch. > Having trouble with the statement presented here. My ancestors left the Penn > area during the American Revolution to travel to Canada because they were > having trouble with the English? These people are called United Empire > Loyalists (UEL). > Then why go to Canada that was controlled by the English? I think that > American patriotism is turning this statement around. They refused to give > allegiance to the Yankees so they left for Canada and their lands were > confiscated by the Americans. We PA's are all through Canada but the > Kitchener > area has a large Amish community that still use horse and buggies > As an interesting addage to this about 5 years ago the U.S. government tried > to inflict their authority on Canadian companies with some assets in the > States. They were threatening to confiscate these assets from any company > that was doing business with Cuba. An elected Member of Parliament > retailiated by tabling a bill confiscating all assets of American companies > doing business in Canada until all United Empire Loyalists descendants were > compensated for any lost property during the American Revolution. Niether > bill was passed or made into law. > Roger Storm >