I AM STILL CONFUSED ! I AM LEON CLEMMER WHO IS YVONNE ?

My 4great grandfather, Sebastian HERLEMAN emigrated from Germany. He arrived in Philadelphia on the ship Molly on 16 Oct 1741. His first location was near the village of Trappe in then Philadelphia County. On the passenger list, the captain indicated that the passengers were all Palatines. My goal is to find the location of the town in Germany where he lived prior to emigration. I am hopeful that someone on this list either recognizes the name (spelled Hexleman on the passenger list) or may know one or more of the other passengers on this voyage and may be able to advise me of their location prior to this emigration. He is believed to have been single upon arrival and married shortly thereafter. His first two children were baptized in the Augustus Evangelical Lutheran Church in Trappe in 1742 and 1747. In 1859 he moved to York County, purchased a 213 acre plantation and lived there until his death in 1794. I am very new at this and would appreciate any help or advise to assist me in this search. Thanks in advance. Thom in CA<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

He sure is Leon. Yvonne

Who is Yvonne? Is the Heinrich Frey who we celebrate at the Hugonaut and Bertolet's the same as yours? Leon Clemmer Bertolet Association

I am trying to find out information concerning Adam Brenizer and his wife Eve who (I believe) lived in York County at the time of the 1800 and 1810 US censuses. He was born around 1770 in Lancaster County or Cumberland County PA and later moved to Baltimore County, Maryland. Cynthia Zieber<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

"Alfred J. Spiry SR." wrote: > > There is no JAMES in either Dutch or German given names. Might be Johannes. > Also there is no surname of > of GRAY in either of those countries. A possibility might be GRAU which when > translated means GRAY (a color). The Dutch or German form of James is Jacob or Jakob. His name might have been Jacob Grau and he just translated it, although I admit that is straight German; it is possible that the Holland Dutch form could be a little different, I am not quite sure. Jan

Reply to Sandra Gray: Your "brick wall" is the fact that your James GRAY if he was born in Holland would not have an English Given and Surname. There is no JAMES in either Dutch or German given names. Might be Johannes. Also there is no surname of of GRAY in either of those countries. A possibility might be GRAU which when translated means GRAY (a color). You are looking "Where do I go from here to find his birth record." Whose birth record are you trying to find? If "James Gray" (which was not his Holland name) was born in 1803, you first have to establish what the correct Dutch name his was. Then the Holklkand most likely was Holland. The dialect they used, plus the fact that "James" could talk no English in Dutch sounded lilke that. Your first order of research will be to find just what his Dutch name was when he left Holland. Good Luck. Al and Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: <GeeGee228@aol.com> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: [PADutch] GRAY surname > HI I am new to this list ! > I am searching for my gggrandfather James GRAY who was born in Amsterdam > HOLLAND in/ abt. 1803. > I have some documentation from census records that he was born in Holklkand > and on his son's death record it states that he was born in Amsterdam ! I > have been searching James GRAY's birth date for almost 2 years now and not a > whole lot closer then I was when I started ! > He was in Union Twp. Lebanon Co . by 1843 when his son, my gggrandfather > Alexander GRAY was born. I also have a listing of James where he married > Magdalene EDWARDS on March 17, 1839. Therefoe I figure that he had to be here > by the mid 1830? > They ended up in Ohio in a few years, according to census records ! > Where do I go from here finding his birth record ??? My BRICK WALL !!! LOL > ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED ! > Thank you in advance for your time ! > Sandra GRAY Page > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own? Transcribed records get lots of appreciative readers. Or try a surname query you haven't posted in a while. > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

Herb, Thanks. I checked that out, and Symantec already in their labs and did not need my quarantined copy. Hal..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "SALDANA,VELDA (HP-PaloAlto,ex1)" <velda_saldana@hp.com> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: RE: [PADutch] Virus Alert > please unsubscribe. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Herbert Barnes [mailto:hbarnes@airmail.net] > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:45 AM > To: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PADutch] Virus Alert > > > Hal, when you quarantine something, then send it to Norton for them to work > with. They will clean the file and return it to you as well as prepare a > virus definition for the culprit. > > Tnx, Herb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hal Stitt <hal@deltanet-consultants.com> > To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:25 PM > Subject: [PADutch] Virus Alert > > > > I hate use the list for virus stuff, but Badtrans is still with us. Here > are the details of my reception of an attachment containing Badtrans about > an hour ago. > > > > From: Ralph Tewksbury > > Subject: Re: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH] GRAY surname (Note the double Re:) > > Attachment: README.TXT.pif > > Action: Stored a file named "W32.Badtrans.13312@mm" in my Local Settings > folder. > > > > Infected file was recognized immediately by Norton Antivirus. The message > did not even appear in my inbox. But Norton was unable to repair it. Instead > I chose to quarantine it and deleted the infected file. > > > > Important: This had the list name in the Subject line, but it did not come > through the list. (List Owner please confirm that the listserver will not > distribute attachments.) If you get what looks like a Rootsweb message with > an attachment, you may have a virus attached. We cannot go through life > deleting all attachments, but we certainly can delete attachments on > messages from Rootsweb. Also be 100% suspicious of attachments made to look > like a document (README.TXT) but with an additional executable > extension--pif in this case. > > > > Hal Stitt > > KNAUFF/WALLIS/WALLACE > > > > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > > You have a friend in Pennsylvania... > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Have you written that story down from your grandmother's childhood? > Do it now so that others may know of her when she is gone. Keep the > PADUTCH traditions alive! > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own? Transcribed records get lots of appreciative readers. Or try a surname query you haven't posted in a while. > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > >

To any one who may be searching the name LIGHTNER , I hope you could help. I am searching for info beyond my Grandmother MINNIE LIGHTNER. She was born 1873 in Versailles (Allegheny Co.) Pa. I do not know any thing about her parents. She married William C. Heisterman and they are buried in Mt. Vernon Cemetery ( Alleg Co. ) Pa. Any help is appreciated Olive Mae Fincham

I hate use the list for virus stuff, but Badtrans is still with us. Here are the details of my reception of an attachment containing Badtrans about an hour ago. From: Ralph Tewksbury Subject: Re: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH] GRAY surname (Note the double Re:) Attachment: README.TXT.pif Action: Stored a file named "W32.Badtrans.13312@mm" in my Local Settings folder. Infected file was recognized immediately by Norton Antivirus. The message did not even appear in my inbox. But Norton was unable to repair it. Instead I chose to quarantine it and deleted the infected file. Important: This had the list name in the Subject line, but it did not come through the list. (List Owner please confirm that the listserver will not distribute attachments.) If you get what looks like a Rootsweb message with an attachment, you may have a virus attached. We cannot go through life deleting all attachments, but we certainly can delete attachments on messages from Rootsweb. Also be 100% suspicious of attachments made to look like a document (README.TXT) but with an additional executable extension--pif in this case. Hal Stitt KNAUFF/WALLIS/WALLACE

HI I am new to this list ! I am searching for my gggrandfather James GRAY who was born in Amsterdam HOLLAND in/ abt. 1803. I have some documentation from census records that he was born in Holklkand and on his son's death record it states that he was born in Amsterdam ! I have been searching James GRAY's birth date for almost 2 years now and not a whole lot closer then I was when I started ! He was in Union Twp. Lebanon Co . by 1843 when his son, my gggrandfather Alexander GRAY was born. I also have a listing of James where he married Magdalene EDWARDS on March 17, 1839. Therefoe I figure that he had to be here by the mid 1830? They ended up in Ohio in a few years, according to census records ! Where do I go from here finding his birth record ??? My BRICK WALL !!! LOL ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED ! Thank you in advance for your time ! Sandra GRAY Page

Unsubsribe. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MarkleVon@aol.com> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [PADutch] Frey/ Fry family > Heinrick Frey arrived in Pa. in 1680. He is considered the first German in > Pa. I am also a descendant of the Bertolet Family. I have the early Frey > info, but not this Jacob. However, I do not have every line traced out. If I > can help, just let me know. Yvonne > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > The official webstie for this list is at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/~padutch/ > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

I am searching for the Bannon family. Frances Bannon, born 1833 in York, PA. Her father was Henry, b 1810. Many thanks, Pam Fergusson

My guess is that Holklkand = Holland, and Amsterdam = Amsterdam. Therefore, he was probably born in Amsterdam, Holland. Make sense? Hal Stitt KNAUFF/WALLIS/WALLACE ----- Original Message ----- From: <GeeGee228@aol.com> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:05 AM Subject: [PADutch] GRAY surname > HI I am new to this list ! > I am searching for my gggrandfather James GRAY who was born in Amsterdam > HOLLAND in/ abt. 1803. > I have some documentation from census records that he was born in Holklkand > and on his son's death record it states that he was born in Amsterdam ! I > have been searching James GRAY's birth date for almost 2 years now and not a > whole lot closer then I was when I started ! > He was in Union Twp. Lebanon Co . by 1843 when his son, my gggrandfather > Alexander GRAY was born. I also have a listing of James where he married > Magdalene EDWARDS on March 17, 1839. Therefoe I figure that he had to be here > by the mid 1830? > They ended up in Ohio in a few years, according to census records ! > Where do I go from here finding his birth record ??? My BRICK WALL !!! LOL > ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED ! > Thank you in advance for your time ! > Sandra GRAY Page > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own? Transcribed records get lots of appreciative readers. Or try a surname query you haven't posted in a while. > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > >

I apologize to any of you who will see this message more than once, but I am just recently back out of the hospital yet again and am trying to determine if I may have gotten bumped from any lists due to backed up e/mails. Sorry to bother you. Bill

Dick Creps./.. Probably just a very long shot, but I graduated from Springfield, Ohio Community Hospital School of Nursing (Clark County) in 1963, and there was a Pat Krebs (Patricia?) I believe one year ahead of me in training, she would have graduated in 1962... I have no idea where she went or what her married name might be.... might check Springfield telephone book for Krebs, I have one if you would like me to look. Kathleen Manley

Please remove arctic@ptialaska.net as soon as possible Keith Rust wrote: > I wish to unsubcribe > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own? Transcribed records get lots of appreciative readers. Or try a surname query you haven't posted in a while. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Can anyone tell me where Dutch Loop and East Loop, PA are lo- cated. Am also interested in the CLAPPER family ( Amelia, d/o Jacob). I don't have a birth date for Amelia but she died in 1840. Many thanks, M.J. Lindemann

Thank you Connie... good suggestion... I will definitely look into the online thing. Kathleen