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    1. Re: [PADutch] Goshenhoppen - Krebs Surname
    2. Elida
    3. The SCHADLE surname appears in Schuylkill County, PA. I'm not a SCHADLE researcher. Elida in SC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joanne Morris" <anniem27@earthlink.net> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [PADutch] Goshenhoppen - Krebs Surname > I was looking for surnames Racus, Zellers, Shadle. Sorry. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Kmlpoet@aol.com> > To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 11:49 PM > Subject: Re: [PADutch] Goshenhoppen - Krebs Surname > > > > Dick Creps./.. > > > > > > Probably just a very long shot, but I graduated from Springfield, Ohio > > Community Hospital School of Nursing (Clark County) in 1963, and there was > a > > Pat Krebs (Patricia?) I believe one year ahead of me in training, she > would > > have graduated in 1962... I have no idea where she went or what her > married > > name might be.... might check Springfield telephone book for Krebs, I have > > one if you would like me to look. > > > > Kathleen Manley > > > > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > > Check out the Mid-Atlantic Roots Network at: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > You have a friend in Pennsylvania... > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

    05/21/2001 10:55:20
    1. Re: [PADutch] Frey/ Fry family
    2. In a message dated 5/21/2001 12:54:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, leon234@aol.com writes: > Leon Clemmer > Bertolet Association COULD I HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THE ASSOCIATION PLEASE. RUTH ANN BOWMAN

    05/21/2001 10:47:14
    1. [PADutch] Margaret Schmeck, Henry Schmeck
    2. Carol Wells
    3. Seek information about the family of Widow Margaret or Anna Margaret Schmeck. She married second to Maximilian Sheffer. Who was her first husband? At her second marriage she already had a son Henry Schmeck. He died in 1763 in Alsace Twp, Berks County, leaving a will dated 1762 naming children Anna Clara, Anna Margaret, Henry, Valentine, and Jacob.

    05/21/2001 10:39:27
    1. [PADutch] Cramer, PA
    2. Melinda, I am starting my own search for Cramers in southern Lancaster co., PA. You say the Cramer name has been extensively researched, I wonder if you could share any information that might be relevant to my family, or point me in the right direction. Eva CRAMER (11 Oct 1826- 8 Jan 1849) Buried in Clearfield Cemetery, Lanc. Co., PA.. Married Jacob MILLER (22 May 1820-15 Aug 1892). Buried in Clearfield Cemetery, Lanc. Co., PA. Occupation Master Blacksmith They had the following child: Henry Cramer MILLER Born1 Apr 1847 in Eden Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. Died 14 Jul 1910 in Strasburg Township, Lanc. Co., PA. Buried in Clearfield Cemetery. I've also found census information, but don't know if it is relevant. Obviously this is a problem because individuals were not name in censuses until after Eva had died. Any help would be appreciated Thanks, Tina 1830 Census Henry Cramer, Mt Joy Twp., Lanc, Co., PA, pg 96 1 male 20-30 1 female 20-30 1 female 30-40 Peter Cramer, Mt. Joy Twp., Lanc. Co., PA pg 96 2 male 15-20 1 male 40-50 1 female 5-10 1 female 15-20 << My lines are as follows Helfer CRAMER b 1753 in York, PA m Henrietta Sophia NEUDIG b 1761 Montgomery, PA. Their son, John (Johannes) CRAMER married Catharina SCHLOTT in York County in 1816. She was the daughter of Adam SCHLOTT b 1761 in Hesse Cassel and Anna Maria Catharina HOLDER b 1767 in York, PA.>> << The CRAMER line has been well researched, and I have much information. >>

    05/21/2001 10:37:56
    1. Re: [PADutch] Virus Alert
    2. Bettie Weyler
    3. Thank you! Wedon't need any more of that one. Bettie ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal Stitt <hal@deltanet-consultants.com> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:25 PM Subject: [PADutch] Virus Alert > I hate use the list for virus stuff, but Badtrans is still with us. Here are the details of my reception of an attachment containing Badtrans about an hour ago. > > From: Ralph Tewksbury > Subject: Re: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH] GRAY surname (Note the double Re:) > Attachment: README.TXT.pif > Action: Stored a file named "W32.Badtrans.13312@mm" in my Local Settings folder. > > Infected file was recognized immediately by Norton Antivirus. The message did not even appear in my inbox. But Norton was unable to repair it. Instead I chose to quarantine it and deleted the infected file. > > Important: This had the list name in the Subject line, but it did not come through the list. (List Owner please confirm that the listserver will not distribute attachments.) If you get what looks like a Rootsweb message with an attachment, you may have a virus attached. We cannot go through life deleting all attachments, but we certainly can delete attachments on messages from Rootsweb. Also be 100% suspicious of attachments made to look like a document (README.TXT) but with an additional executable extension--pif in this case. > > Hal Stitt > KNAUFF/WALLIS/WALLACE > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > You have a friend in Pennsylvania... > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

    05/21/2001 10:14:19
    1. Re: [PADutch] Virus Alert
    2. Alfred J. Spiry SR.
    3. Thanks for your e-mail on the virus.I got the Halph Tewsbury and "bit", my McAfee caught it, but said that I had to delete "C:\Windows\HKK32.Exe" and replace it from a back up. Since you appear to much more computer literate, where can I find out what that site was/is? Thanks in advance for your help; Al and Margaret Does this mean that we have to stay away form PENNA-DUTCH-L Site? --- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Stitt" <hal@deltanet-consultants.com> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:25 PM Subject: [PADutch] Virus Alert > I hate use the list for virus stuff, but Badtrans is still with us. Here are the details of my reception of an attachment containing Badtrans about an hour ago. > > From: Ralph Tewksbury > Subject: Re: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH] GRAY surname (Note the double Re:) > Attachment: README.TXT.pif > Action: Stored a file named "W32.Badtrans.13312@mm" in my Local Settings folder. > > Infected file was recognized immediately by Norton Antivirus. The message did not even appear in my inbox. But Norton was unable to repair it. Instead I chose to quarantine it and deleted the infected file. > > Important: This had the list name in the Subject line, but it did not come through the list. (List Owner please confirm that the listserver will not distribute attachments.) If you get what looks like a Rootsweb message with an attachment, you may have a virus attached. We cannot go through life deleting all attachments, but we certainly can delete attachments on messages from Rootsweb. Also be 100% suspicious of attachments made to look like a document (README.TXT) but with an additional executable extension--pif in this case. > > Hal Stitt > KNAUFF/WALLIS/WALLACE > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > You have a friend in Pennsylvania... > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

    05/21/2001 10:08:41
    1. Re: [PADutch] Virus Alert
    2. Joyce Barrie
    3. Tried that and they just say that they already know what it is and it can't be fixed. Just delete it. Joyce Barrie >From: "Herbert Barnes" <hbarnes@airmail.net> >Reply-To: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com >To: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PADutch] Virus Alert >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:45:18 -0500 > >Hal, when you quarantine something, then send it to Norton for them to work >with. They will clean the file and return it to you as well as prepare a >virus definition for the culprit. > >Tnx, Herb > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Hal Stitt <hal@deltanet-consultants.com> >To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:25 PM >Subject: [PADutch] Virus Alert > > > > I hate use the list for virus stuff, but Badtrans is still with us. Here >are the details of my reception of an attachment containing Badtrans about >an hour ago. > > > > From: Ralph Tewksbury > > Subject: Re: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH] GRAY surname (Note the double Re:) > > Attachment: README.TXT.pif > > Action: Stored a file named "W32.Badtrans.13312@mm" in my Local Settings >folder. > > > > Infected file was recognized immediately by Norton Antivirus. The >message >did not even appear in my inbox. But Norton was unable to repair it. >Instead >I chose to quarantine it and deleted the infected file. > > > > Important: This had the list name in the Subject line, but it did not >come >through the list. (List Owner please confirm that the listserver will not >distribute attachments.) If you get what looks like a Rootsweb message with >an attachment, you may have a virus attached. We cannot go through life >deleting all attachments, but we certainly can delete attachments on >messages from Rootsweb. Also be 100% suspicious of attachments made to look >like a document (README.TXT) but with an additional executable >extension--pif in this case. > > > > Hal Stitt > > KNAUFF/WALLIS/WALLACE > > > > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > > You have a friend in Pennsylvania... > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > >==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== >Have you written that story down from your grandmother's childhood? >Do it now so that others may know of her when she is gone. Keep the >PADUTCH traditions alive! > > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

    05/21/2001 10:07:30
    1. Re: [PADutch] Virus Alert
    2. Joyce Barrie
    3. I got the badtrams virus and I didn't even have to open an attachment to get it. It was grabbed by my Norton virus scanner right away but I still had to delete the file that it infected. It couldn't be corrected. I can still run my computer but sure am wondering what the heck I deleted. It was a .EXE File that was quarantined and eventually deleted. Now I don't know how to get it back. SOOOOO, you don't have to open an attachment. Scary isn't it. I feel I am living on the edge. Joyce Barrie >From: "Hal Stitt" <hal@deltanet-consultants.com> >Reply-To: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com >To: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PADutch] Virus Alert >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:25:01 -0700 > >I hate use the list for virus stuff, but Badtrans is still with us. Here >are the details of my reception of an attachment containing Badtrans about >an hour ago. > >From: Ralph Tewksbury >Subject: Re: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH] GRAY surname (Note the double Re:) >Attachment: README.TXT.pif >Action: Stored a file named "W32.Badtrans.13312@mm" in my Local Settings >folder. > >Infected file was recognized immediately by Norton Antivirus. The message >did not even appear in my inbox. But Norton was unable to repair it. >Instead I chose to quarantine it and deleted the infected file. > >Important: This had the list name in the Subject line, but it did not come >through the list. (List Owner please confirm that the listserver will not >distribute attachments.) If you get what looks like a Rootsweb message with >an attachment, you may have a virus attached. We cannot go through life >deleting all attachments, but we certainly can delete attachments on >messages from Rootsweb. Also be 100% suspicious of attachments made to look >like a document (README.TXT) but with an additional executable >extension--pif in this case. > >Hal Stitt >KNAUFF/WALLIS/WALLACE > > >==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== >You have a friend in Pennsylvania... > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

    05/21/2001 10:05:15
    1. Re: [PADutch] Just Checking
    2. You are safely on this one... came through loud and clear to the Seattle area. Kathleen Originally from Springfield, Ohio

    05/21/2001 10:00:16
    1. Re: Re: [PADutch] GRAY surname
    2. Alfred J. Spiry SR.
    3. Attention everyone: Just got an e-mail in from Ralph Tewskbury, and he sent me a virus;name "BackDoor-NK.SUR. Attach. fun. pif(13.KB) Subject: ReRe (PADutch) GRAY surname. This is urgent. My McAfee caught it, but I had to delete the infected C:\Windows/HKK32.EXE. I had to delete it to get rid of the virus, and now have to find what I need to reinstall it. Al and Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Tewksbury" <rtewks@ix.netcom.com> To: <aspiryfam@fuse.net> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Re: [PADutch] GRAY surname 'Alfred J. Spiry SR.' wrote: ==== - Reply to Sandra Gray: Your "brick wall" is the fact that your James GRAY if - he was born in Holland would not have an English Given and Surname. - - There is no JAMES in either Dutch or German given names. Might be Johannes. - Also there is no surname of - of GRAY in either of those countries. A possibility might be GRAU which when - translated means GRAY (a color). - - You are looking "Where do I go from here to find his birth record." Whose - birth record ar ...' > Take a look to the attachment.

    05/21/2001 09:56:22
    1. [PADutch] Sechler, Diehl
    2. Pam Fergusson
    3. I'm new to the loop and am looking for ancestors from York, PA. Magdelina Sechler was born around 1790, died 1849. Captain John Diehl, probably born in the early 1700's, was Magdelina's husband. Note: my very first e-mail was from Tewkesberry - a virus. Thank goodness for Norton.

    05/21/2001 09:22:36
    1. RE: [PADutch] Virus Alert
    2. SALDANA,VELDA (HP-PaloAlto,ex1)
    3. please unsubscribe. -----Original Message----- From: Herbert Barnes [mailto:hbarnes@airmail.net] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:45 AM To: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PADutch] Virus Alert Hal, when you quarantine something, then send it to Norton for them to work with. They will clean the file and return it to you as well as prepare a virus definition for the culprit. Tnx, Herb ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal Stitt <hal@deltanet-consultants.com> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:25 PM Subject: [PADutch] Virus Alert > I hate use the list for virus stuff, but Badtrans is still with us. Here are the details of my reception of an attachment containing Badtrans about an hour ago. > > From: Ralph Tewksbury > Subject: Re: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH] GRAY surname (Note the double Re:) > Attachment: README.TXT.pif > Action: Stored a file named "W32.Badtrans.13312@mm" in my Local Settings folder. > > Infected file was recognized immediately by Norton Antivirus. The message did not even appear in my inbox. But Norton was unable to repair it. Instead I chose to quarantine it and deleted the infected file. > > Important: This had the list name in the Subject line, but it did not come through the list. (List Owner please confirm that the listserver will not distribute attachments.) If you get what looks like a Rootsweb message with an attachment, you may have a virus attached. We cannot go through life deleting all attachments, but we certainly can delete attachments on messages from Rootsweb. Also be 100% suspicious of attachments made to look like a document (README.TXT) but with an additional executable extension--pif in this case. > > Hal Stitt > KNAUFF/WALLIS/WALLACE > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > You have a friend in Pennsylvania... > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Have you written that story down from your grandmother's childhood? Do it now so that others may know of her when she is gone. Keep the PADUTCH traditions alive! ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

    05/21/2001 08:55:26
    1. Re: [PADutch] RE: LIGHTNER
    2. Janice A. Frank
    3. olive fincham wrote: > > To any one who may be searching the name LIGHTNER , I hope you could help. I am searching for info beyond my Grandmother MINNIE LIGHTNER. She was born 1873 in Versailles (Allegheny Co.) Pa. I do not know any thing about her parents. She married William C. Heisterman and they are buried in Mt. Vernon Cemetery ( Alleg Co. ) Pa. Any help is appreciated Olive Mae Fincham Hi Olive - this is not going to help you directly, it's too far back, but I have a Jacob LIGHTNER who m Elizabeth SCHULTZ b 1755. He was probably about the same age. I have not researched LIGHTNER but these SCHULTZ were from Lebanon County, so that might be a place to start looking for the origins of yours. Good luck! Jan

    05/21/2001 08:52:05
    1. Re: [PADutch] Virus Alert
    2. In a message dated 5/21/01 1:30:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hal@deltanet-consultants.com writes: > I hate use the list for virus stuff, but Badtrans is still with us. Hal- Yes, it is. I've unsubbed the infected list member only until he cleans his system of the virus. In the future, if anyone receives a virus attachment in response to a posting they make to the list please contact me privately either at the address on this message or my easier to remember address of: joan@rootsweb.com Thanks! Joan

    05/21/2001 08:14:15
    1. [PADutch] FRY and FRIEND, PA & OH
    2. Barb Madsen
    3. Looking for parents of John FRY, b. ca. 1796 in either VA or PA, d. 29 April 1870 in Circleville, Pickaway Co., OH. Married Malinda FRIEND, b. ca. 1802 in Pickaway Co., OH, d. after June 1870 in Circleville, OH. This has been a brick wall for a long, long time! Barb Madsen barb01@csj.net

    05/21/2001 08:04:59
    1. [PADutch] Stare (Stahr, Strelies), York Co., PA
    2. Barb Madsen
    3. My g-g-g-g-grandfather was John Jacob STARE (STAHR, STRELIES), who lived in York Co., PA when his son, Henry Stare, was born 19 Nov 1790. John (probably Johann) married a woman whose last name was supposedly KAKE or KAHE. Henry m. Lydia AUGHENBAUGH, dau. of Johann Georg ACHENBACH and Anna Maria TEXTER of Lancaster and York Cos., PA. Anyone know anything about the STARE family in particular? Barb Madsen barb01@csj.net

    05/21/2001 07:57:32
    1. Re: [PADutch] Virus Alert
    2. Herbert Barnes
    3. Hal, when you quarantine something, then send it to Norton for them to work with. They will clean the file and return it to you as well as prepare a virus definition for the culprit. Tnx, Herb ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal Stitt <hal@deltanet-consultants.com> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:25 PM Subject: [PADutch] Virus Alert > I hate use the list for virus stuff, but Badtrans is still with us. Here are the details of my reception of an attachment containing Badtrans about an hour ago. > > From: Ralph Tewksbury > Subject: Re: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH] GRAY surname (Note the double Re:) > Attachment: README.TXT.pif > Action: Stored a file named "W32.Badtrans.13312@mm" in my Local Settings folder. > > Infected file was recognized immediately by Norton Antivirus. The message did not even appear in my inbox. But Norton was unable to repair it. Instead I chose to quarantine it and deleted the infected file. > > Important: This had the list name in the Subject line, but it did not come through the list. (List Owner please confirm that the listserver will not distribute attachments.) If you get what looks like a Rootsweb message with an attachment, you may have a virus attached. We cannot go through life deleting all attachments, but we certainly can delete attachments on messages from Rootsweb. Also be 100% suspicious of attachments made to look like a document (README.TXT) but with an additional executable extension--pif in this case. > > Hal Stitt > KNAUFF/WALLIS/WALLACE > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > You have a friend in Pennsylvania... > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

    05/21/2001 07:45:18
    1. Re: [PADutch] GRAY surname
    2. Joanne Morris
    3. I am not too good at this "thing" called genealogy. I am searching for Racus, Zellers, Shadle in southeastern PA. Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: <GeeGee228@aol.com> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:05 AM Subject: [PADutch] GRAY surname > HI I am new to this list ! > I am searching for my gggrandfather James GRAY who was born in Amsterdam > HOLLAND in/ abt. 1803. > I have some documentation from census records that he was born in Holklkand > and on his son's death record it states that he was born in Amsterdam ! I > have been searching James GRAY's birth date for almost 2 years now and not a > whole lot closer then I was when I started ! > He was in Union Twp. Lebanon Co . by 1843 when his son, my gggrandfather > Alexander GRAY was born. I also have a listing of James where he married > Magdalene EDWARDS on March 17, 1839. Therefoe I figure that he had to be here > by the mid 1830? > They ended up in Ohio in a few years, according to census records ! > Where do I go from here finding his birth record ??? My BRICK WALL !!! LOL > ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED ! > Thank you in advance for your time ! > Sandra GRAY Page > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own? Transcribed records get lots of appreciative readers. Or try a surname query you haven't posted in a while. > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

    05/21/2001 07:35:23
    1. Re: [PADutch] Dutch Loop and East Loop
    2. Joanne Morris
    3. I am searching for Racus, Zellers, Shadle in PA. Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Fergusson <pfergus1@tampabay.rr.com> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [PADutch] Dutch Loop and East Loop > I am searching for the Bannon family. Frances Bannon, born 1833 in York, PA. > Her father was Henry, b 1810. > Many thanks, Pam Fergusson > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > You have a friend in Pennsylvania... > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

    05/21/2001 07:32:38
    1. Re: [PADutch] Goshenhoppen - Krebs Surname
    2. Joanne Morris
    3. I was looking for surnames Racus, Zellers, Shadle. Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kmlpoet@aol.com> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [PADutch] Goshenhoppen - Krebs Surname > Dick Creps./.. > > > Probably just a very long shot, but I graduated from Springfield, Ohio > Community Hospital School of Nursing (Clark County) in 1963, and there was a > Pat Krebs (Patricia?) I believe one year ahead of me in training, she would > have graduated in 1962... I have no idea where she went or what her married > name might be.... might check Springfield telephone book for Krebs, I have > one if you would like me to look. > > Kathleen Manley > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Check out the Mid-Atlantic Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/ > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

    05/21/2001 07:30:24