Hello All: I am researching the above names - there are many variations - if anyone is researching this name also would like to hear from them and possibly make a connection - thank you - Ahlive

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Would anyone know why German families name their sons with the same first name? I know that the middle name is always different. Example: Researching my family line, all the son's first names are Johann and the middle names were different. Is there any reason for this? Ron Wiandt, Jr. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

In a message dated 5/28/01 5:55:28 PM, JYoung6180@aol.com writes: << PENNA-DUTCH >> the message as you said resulted in "nothing on the list" Leon Çlemmer

In a message dated 5/28/01 5:16:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, leon234@aol.com writes: > I can't imagine why you have your troubles, I seem to see a marked less > trafic(messages) the say last month. I too wonder what is going on. > I haven't changed my ways either. > > Webmaster what is happening? > There has been quite a bit of traffic on this list in the past month. If you wish to see what has been posted please see the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Type in PENNA-DUTCH to view the messages for this list. The threaded archives is a bit behind in posting messages so the past couple week's messages aren't there yet. If you are having problems with scrambled digests it's a safe bet that AOL's mail program is at fault. You might want to either switch to mail mode or contact tech support at AOL. Joan

I can't imagine why you have your troubles, I seem to see a marked less trafic(messages) the say last month. I too wonder what is going on. I haven't changed my ways either. Webmaster what is happening?

I wrote to our webmaster to no avail. Lately, I get my Penna-Dutch-D Digest and after four or five messages, all the remaining messages are garbled. I can't understand why part of the same tranmission is fine but the second half is unreadable. Is anyone else having this problem? I have not changed computers, software or settings so I can't figure out what is going on. I love to read these everyday and feel I could be missing info because half of what I am getting is not discernable.

Dear Pat, There is more than one Cramer/Kramer family in York co. Do you have any specifics? Nanette >From: Pat103pic@aol.com >Reply-To: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com >To: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PADutch] Crawmer, Craumer, Cramer >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 07:13:06 EDT > >Looking for information about the Crawmer/Craumer/Cramer family in York >County, PA. Some relatives were also in Frederick and Carroll Counties, >MD. >Some family members migrated to Muskingum County, OH around 1830-35. Any >information would be appreciated. I'll be more than willing to share >infornation that I have. Thanks, Pat Pickett > > >==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== >You have a friend in Pennsylvania... > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Hello All: I am researching the above names and would like to hear from anyone that recognizes those names and might be researching them also - thank you - Ahlive

In a message dated 5/25/01 8:00:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, elida@signature.cc writes: > There was a message on the PA-Dutch mailing list today that mentioned a mid- > atlantic genealogy website. > > Does anyone still have the address? That Web site would be: http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/ Joan

There was a message on the PA-Dutch mailing list today that mentioned a mid-atlantic genealogy website. Does anyone still have the address? Thanks, Elida

midatlantic.rootsweb.com Elida wrote: > There was a message on the PA-Dutch mailing list today that mentioned a mid-atlantic genealogy website. > > Does anyone still have the address? > > Thanks, > Elida > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own? Transcribed records get lots of appreciative readers. Or try a surname query you haven't posted in a while. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Celebrate! Holidays In The U.S.A. Memorial Day (Last Monday in May) It was 1866 and the United States was recovering from the long and bloody Civil War between the North and the South. Surviving soldiers came home, some with missing limbs, and all with stories to tell. Henry Welles, a drugstore owner in Waterloo, New York, heard the stories and had an idea. He suggested that all the shops in town close for one day to honor the soldiers who were killed in the Civil War and were buried in the Waterloo cemetery. On the morning of May 5, the townspeople placed flowers, wreaths and crosses on the graves of the Northern soldiers in the cemetery. At about the same time, Retired Major General Jonathan A. Logan planned another ceremony, this time for the soldiers who survived the war. He led the veterans through town to the cemetery to decorate their comrades' graves with flags. It was not a happy celebration, but a memorial. The townspeople called it Decoration Day. In Retired Major General Logan's proclamation of Memorial Day, he declared: "The 30th of May, 1868, is designated for the purpose of strewing with flowers, or otherwise decorating the graves of comrades who died in defense of their country and during the late rebellion, and whose bodies now lie in almost every city, village and hamlet churchyard in the land. In this observance no form of ceremony is prescribed, but posts and comrades will in their own way arrange such fitting services and testimonials of respect as circumstances may permit." The two ceremonies were joined in 1868, and northern states commemorated the day on May 30. The southern states commemorated their war dead on different days. Children read poems and sang civil war songs and veterans came to school wearing their medals and uniforms to tell students about the Civil War. Then the veterans marched through their home towns followed by the townspeople to the cemetery. They decorated graves and took photographs of soldiers next to American flags. Rifles were shot in the air as a salute to the northern soldiers who had given their lives to keep the United States together. In 1882, the name was changed to Memorial Day and soldiers who had died in previous wars were honored as well. In the northern United States, it was designated a public holiday. In 1971, along with other holidays, President Richard Nixon declared Memorial Day a federal holiday on the last Monday in May. Cities all around the United States hold their own ceremonies on the last Monday in May* to pay respect to the men and women who have died in wars or in the service of their country. Memorial Day is not limited to honor only those Americans from the armed forces. It is also a day for personal remembrance. Families and individuals honor the memories of their loved ones who have died. Church services, visits to the cemetery, flowers on graves or even silent tribute mark the day with dignity and solemnity. It is a day of reflection. However, to many Americans the day also signals the beginning of summer with a three-day weekend to spend at the beach, in the mountains or at home relaxing. In Waterloo, New York, the origin has not been lost and in fact the meaning has become even more special. President Lyndon Johnson proclaimed Waterloo the birthplace of Memorial Day in 1966, 100 years after the first commemoration. Every May 30, townspeople still walk to the cemeteries and hold memorial services. They decorate the graves with flags and flowers. Then they walk back to the park in the middle of town. In the middle of the park, near a monument dedicated to soldiers, sailors and marines, the Gettysburg address is read, followed by Retired Major General Logan's Order # 11 designating Decoration Day. The village choirs sing patriotic songs. In the evening, school children take part in a parade. Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia is the nation's largest national cemetery. Not only are members of the armed forces buried here; astronauts, explorers and other distinguished Americans have all been honored with a special place here. President John F. Kennedy is buried in a spot overlooking Washington, D.C.. Here in the early hours of the Friday morning before Memorial Day, soldiers of the Third U.S. infantry walk along the rows of headstones. Each soldier stops at a headstone, reaches to a bundle of flags he is carrying, pulls one out and pushes it into the ground. These soldiers are part of a special regiment. the Old Guard. Most consider it a privilege to place flags on the more than two hundred thousand graves of soldiers who served in the wars or who died in them. "They have done their job," said one soldier, "and now it's my turn to do mine." It is an equal honor to guard the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier all year. There are actually four soldiers buried in this spot: the unknown soldiers of the two World Wars, the Korean conflict, and the Vietnam War. Each soldier represents all of those who gave their lives in the modern wars. Soldiers from the Army's Third Infantry guard the tomb twenty-four hours a day. Wreath-laying ceremonies take place all through the year and people from all over the world come to watch the changing of the guard. On another hill of Arlington Cemetery there is a mass grave of unidentified soldiers from the Civil War. On Memorial Day, the President or Vice President of the United States gives a speech and lays a wreath on the tombs. Members of the armed forces shoot a rifle salute in the air. Veterans and families come to lay their own wreaths and say prayers. There is a chance that one of the soldiers buried here is a father, son, brother or friend. *Some southern states continue to celebrate Memorial Day on various days, i.e. June 3rd in Louisiona and Tennessee called "Confederate Memorial Day" and on May 10th in North and South Carolina. PLEASE ENJOY THIS DAY AND DRIVE SAFE -- Deborah L. Fox from,N.E.Phila,Pa to Fairfax,Va.to Front Royal,Va. GENEALOGY & RESEARCH LINKS-UPDATED MAY 25,2001 http://sites.netscape.net/INVESTIGATORFOX/homepage ALSO SEARCH WITH GOOGLE AND PICO FOR FREE GROCERIES-COUPONS http://www.valupage.com/Entry.pst?From=AFF002909

Looking for information on Isaac Long b abt 1777 in PA or VA, m to Nancy Boulton b abt 1778 In VA Gordon Green GHGRoots@aol.com

In a message dated 5/22/01 8:44:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jmiles@naxs.net writes: > So far, I've gotten and quarantined 3 viruses from this mailing list. What > is going on? Judy- I posted the following message once and hadn't planned on repeating it--however, it explains that the virus attachments are not coming from the list--please read it if you have not read the notice before. Please do NOT discuss viruses on this list in the future. If you want further information on viruses, subscribe to: VIRUS-DISCUSSION-L@rootsweb.com Normally virus discussion is "off-topic" for a genealogy list but I'm making an exception for this announcement. Please do NOT respond to the list about this message but please read it. RootsWeb lists are virus-free and you won't receive any viruses through the lists. However, there is a virus going around currently called Bad Trans that can trick you into thinking it is coming from a list. A list subscriber has informed me that at least one subscriber to PENNA-DUTCH-L is or was infected by this virus. Here is how it works so that you can recognize it and avoid it. A list subscriber posts a message to the list and the message is then sent out to everyone on that list (no viruses involved). Someone who is a list subscriber is already infected with the virus (their computer is that is). When the list message arrives in that infected person's inbox the virus works by sending a reply to the person whose address is in the FROM line of the message (i.e. the list poster). The Bad Trans virus works in this manner and it tricks the recipient into thinking that the list is involved when it is only the means by which the poster's address arrived on the infected person's computer--the virus never came through the list. The reply with the list message quoted and the attachment with the virus included is then sent to the original poster. That is why so many folks are fooled into opening the attachment. They think it is a legitimate response to their query. Anyone who clicked on the attachment would have gotten a message saying that the file was corrupted but that is the virus sending that message, and seeing that message indicates that your computer *has* been infected with the virus. If you think you might be infected with this virus please obtain updated anti virus software and scan and clean your system. See: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/announce.html#virus for additional information. Joan, co-admin PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com

please take me off this list --- please ----- Original Message ----- From: <krob@surfbest.net> To: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [PADutch] Unsubscribe > Unsubscribe > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own? Transcribed records get lots of appreciative readers. Or try a surname query you haven't posted in a while. > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

I'm new to the Pa. Dutch list. These are the families I'm researching Maternal side ancestry- Descended from: JACOB HEIM of the Blooming Grove Dunkard settlement in Lycoming Co,Pa. b. 1773 Wuerttenberg,Germ. d. 1849 Hepburn Twp.Lycoming Co. Emigrated abt. 1804-10 Related families Ruetter,Gohl,Stieger,Mutchler,Mansel. I have a good bit of Info. on the Blooming Grove Settlement and other families of the congregation-Heiscle,Kehrer,Keiss,Kurz(Kurtz),Marquardt,Scheel(Shale),Schied t,Staebler(Stabler),Stolz(Stoltz),Ulmer,Wagner,Walz,(Waltz)),Wolf,Yung(Young ). Some of the Heims,Ulmers and other families migrated to Nebraska in the 1870's Descended from: JOHN LIDI (LEEDY) b. 1715 Bern,Switzerland emigrated abt.1740-4 to Conestoga Valley,Lancaster Co., migrated abt. 1750 to Hellem Twp. York Co., Pa. d. 1761. The surname was anglisized to Leedy by the 2nd or 3rd generation. He had 4 sons -Jacob (central Pa.),Abraham (Ohio),John, and Samuel (Va.). Surnames related to my Leedy line - Hostetter,Shuler,Ogle,Willis,Weiser (niece of Conrad Weiser's) Primarily Perry County Paternal side ancestry- Descended from: GEORGE PETERS b. 1801/4 probaly in Germany emigrated abt. 1810 possibly to Adams Co., Pa.(family lore) Migrated to Wheatfield Twp., Perry Co.,Pa. by 1850 d. 1884 Related families-Parsons,King, Young. primarily Perry Co. Descended from: Probaly Bernhardt Slough (anglisized from Slauch or similar

why all the virus warnings ? Leon