Linnea Miller wrote >> If you haven't visited Rod's PD List page recently, you MUST!! Check out >> his GREAT bibliographies of PD books, journals, newspapers, genealogies - >> all referencing the PD heritage & people!! It's great to have these all >in >> one place!! Thanks a lot, Rod!! >> >> -Linnea >> >> P.S. The URL is: <http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html> At 01:46 AM 9/1/97 -0500, Mary Russell wrote: >Linnea , I went to Rods page and was disappointed again as I have been >several times in the last few days when I've tried looking at pages. I have to agree with Linnea, these pages are really quite good! It would be a shame for you to miss them. Are you a Netscape user? If so: Click on the "Options" menu and select "General Preferences." This will pop up a box that will allow you to make some changes. At the top of the box are several labeled tabs. Click on the one labeled "Fonts." You will then see "Choose the proportional font" and "Choose the fixed font", with buttons to the right of these phrases. You can change both of these by clicking on the buttons labeled "Choose Font", but I do NOT recommend that you click on the "For the encoding" button. When you click on "Choose Font," a new window will open, and I think you just want to set the "size" to a higher number. I would do it for both Proportional and Fixed, I think. When you have changed both fonts, you can change the colors by clicking on the "Colors" tab immediately to the right of the "Fonts" tab you used earlier. With bigger fonts, the colors may not matter as much, but if they do, you can set all colors to custom colors that you define, and over-ride the settings on all the web pages you view. There is nothing wrong with experimenting here, so just keep fiddling with it until you have something you like. When you are finished and want to try out the new settings, click "OK" at the bottom of the box. I fear that I have made it sound much more complicated than it is! If I have done nothing more than confuse you, feel free to e-mail me and take me to task for it. Perhaps I can do better on a second try. >I can't see well. I am probably not the only person using a computer who >can not see well. No, you are not. If you are using a Microsoft operating system on your computer (Windows, most likely), you can get free of charge additional software from Microsoft to help address the vision barriers. This has worked quite well for my Mom, who has some pretty severe vision problems herself. If you are using a Macintosh, I believe there are similar extensions that can be had from them. If this is the case, contact me by private e-mail, and I will do what I can to get you in touch with the right people. >I suppose >people making these pages for us can't think of everything Well, you have brought up an interesting point. My own pages would probably not be too friendly to you, either. I will be thinking of a way to mount a 'large print' version. >Rod, I know this is off topic for the list , sorry. Well, now I am off-topic too. Perhaps as an Obligatory Penna-Dutch Reference I can reiterate for the newer subscribers my willingness to do lookups in Fretz Family History (the 1890 edition) to anyone who asks. -- Jeffrey S. Medkeff _|_ If a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, Sierra Vista, | where is the man who has so much as to Arizona | be out of danger?

In a message dated 97-08-31 14:31:18 EDT, you write: << X-Message: #3 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 22:47:28 -0400 From: Frannie <frfg@worldnet.att.net> To: kwalter@3-cities.com CC: PA Dutch <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com>, PENNSYLVANIA-ROOTS-L <PENNSYLVANIA-ROOTS-L@listserv.indiana.edu> Message-ID: <3408DB40.83A560FC@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Prison Ship from England Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Ken and All, Peter Coldham wrote several books , but one of my favorites is "Emigrants in Chains" it is very easy to read and follow and is loaded with information and some names. If you can get a copy is will morethan answer questions concerning prison ships. Frances Ken Walter wrote: > Can someone provide some background info on this? > > 8 July 1685 "The following convicted before Chief Justice Jefferies at > the Court of Oyer and Terminer for Dorset, Somerset and Devon for waging > war against the King and sentenced to be transported to the Americas > [sentence enrolled on 4 February 1691]: Francis Smith, . . . " > > Then follows a 4 page list of names, among which are possible WALTER > ancestor candidates and aligned families. > > What does "Terminer for Dorset, etc." mean? > > What does "sentence enrolled on 4 February 1691" mean? > > Were these men engaged in a particular "war" with England? If so, what > war would it have been? > > This information was found in COMPLETE BOOK OF EMIGRANTS 1661-1699 by > Peter Wilson Coldham on pages 523 - 526 inclusive. > > Ken Walter > Pasco, WA ______________________________ -- >>

X-Status: Unsent Betty, Don't know if your interested, but will send it on the chance it might be of interest. Gordon See below Subj: Robert Lewis genealogy Date: 97-09-01 08:27:29 EDT From: w.a.goch@why.net (William A. Gochenour Jr.) Resent-from: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com To: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com I have just recently learned that in the Lewis genealogy they intermarried into the Gochnauer's. I am looking for either someone that may have the book "Lewis of Warner Hall" by Merow E. Sorley or if someone can tell me if there is an Irish List that I can get on to place a query. Other than alt.genealogy.surname. If anyone has the Lewis book please contact me direct: w.a.goch@why.net Thanks. William **************************************************** Gochenour Genealogy Web page at: http://www.whytel.com/users/w.a.goch/wm.htm William A. Gochenour Jr. . ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >From PENNA-DUTCH-L-request@rootsweb.com Fri Aug 29 19:20:05 1997 Return-Path: <PENNA-DUTCH-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by mrin60.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id TAA21486; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 19:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18952; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970829090539.00715cec@why.net> X-Sender: w.a.goch@why.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 04:05:39 -0500 To: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com From: "William A. Gochenour Jr." <w.a.goch@why.net> Subject: Robert Lewis genealogy Resent-Message-ID: <"6B8qk.A.nWC.8d1B0"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2079 X-Loop: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: PENNA-DUTCH-L-request@rootsweb.com

Linnea , I went to Rods page and was disappointed again as I have been several times in the last few days when I've tried looking a pages. I can't see well. I am probably not the only person using a computer who can not see well. what I am finding is pages with dark backgrounds and writing that is either too small or of a color that I can't see to read. On Rod's page I can find the highlighted addresses to take me to other pages but I can't read any of them. I looked at a page yesterday with writing so small that even with my magnifying glass I couldn't read it. I will have to miss all those good pages like many other people. I suppose people making these pages for us can't think of everything and try to make the pages full of good information I really hate missing some of them. Rod, I know this is off topic for the list , sorry. Mary Russell bird@scrtc.blue.net Glasgow Kentucky > If you haven't visited Rod's PD List page recently, you MUST!! Check out > his GREAT bibliographies of PD books, journals, newspapers, genealogies - > all referencing the PD heritage & people!! It's great to have these all in > one place!! Thanks a lot, Rod!! > > -Linnea > > P.S. The URL is: <http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html> > >

Vee- I must be much older than you, Don't tell. My mother's wash day was a little bit different. Take the baby to the back yard and sit her in a box, since her hands are wet from having them in her mouth give her a soft chicken feather to play with. She will spend the next hour trying to turn lose of it. <G>Make a fire under the big wash pot and draw water from the will to fill it. Disolve some Lye soap in the water. When it comes to a boil add the white clothes and let them boil for awhile. Take some of the boiling water into a wash tub and scrub the colored clothes on the wash board with more lye soap. Rinse them and hang them then take a big stick and pull out the white clothes, scrub them on the wash board , rinse them and hang them. Be sure you wring everything good so it don't take longer for them to dry. Before you hang anything that has to be starched you dip it into the starch that has also been disolved in boiling water. Use that stick to stir stuff around and pull it out of the hot solution. Take some of the wash water in a bucket to the house and use it and the scrub brush on the floors. Draw fresh water to rinse the floor. After the soapy water has cooled add the garbage from last nights supper to it along with some shelled corn and slop the hogs. If the baby has turned over the box she was sitting in and has been playing in the dirt, use the warm rinse water to give her a bath. Use the rest of the water to water the flowers around the back door. Waste Not Want Not---sorry this is long-I shouldn't remember stuff after midnight.....Mary Russell bird@scrtc.blue.net tomrussell@mindless.com Glasgow Kentucky

I am looking for the parents of Maria Trissler died ca 1810 Lancaster PA. married Jacob Graeff died ca 1810 Lancaster PA.. Their son was Mathias Graeff born ca 1793 Lancaster PA died ca 1837 Lancaster PA.. He married Elizabeth Hostetter born 1795 Lancaster PA.. Dick Brunt dbrunt1@aol.com

I am seeking the parents of Henry Brown born 1776 PA died Pike Co OH married Elizabeth. Their daughter was Elizabeth Brown born 7-4-1813 Seal Twp Pike Co. OH. died 26-7-1884 Stark Co. OH married Daniel Bollinger born 10-4-1810 Lebanon Co PA.. Dick Brunt dbrunt1@aol.com

I am seeking the parents of Catherine Grome [Grom} born 1768 York Co PA died 22-5-1840 York PA.. She married Benjamin Bowser born 1760 and died 18-4-1844 York Co PA.. Dick Brunt dbrunt1@aol.com

I am seeking the parents of Anna Petry born ca 1810 York Co PA. died Stark Co OH. married Daniel Bowser born 1795 York Co PA died 1878 Stark Co PA.. Dick Brunt dbrunt1@aol.com

I am seeking the parents of Mary Moonshower born 1783 Lancaster Co. PA. died 26-5-1860 Stark Co. OH married Daniel Bollinger Born 1780 Lancaster PA. died 1820 Stark OH.. Dick Brunt dbrunt1@aol.com

I am seeking the parents of Peter Anglemire or Anglemoyer born ca 1779 Bucks PA married Susan Nicholas[Nicalaus] born 29-5-1783 Northampton PA.. Dick Brunt dbrunt1@aol.com

There are definitely certain basic foods in the world. I once had several foreign students over for dinner. Since I knew that dietary restrictions were going to be a problem, I decided to serve Tex-Mex self serve. I put out taco shells, tortillas, salsa, lettuce, cheese, tomatos, onions, a bowl of taco filling made with meat and a bowl of filling made with beans. I was most surprised when one of the students from India said, "Oh, it's just like home -- except for the meat and onions." (That was the first time I heard that certain castes in India didn't eat onions!) Then the Chinese students said, "We have food like this as well." So apparently the concept of the unleavened flour bread which I had always called a tortilla is a staple around the world. It is called by lots of different names, but the idea of wrapping thin bread around meat and/or vegetables is a nearly world wide meal. As for the pickled foods, putting something in vinegar is one of the easiest ways to preserve food. I suspect that lots of things got "pickled" when there was a danger that it might spoil. Our ancestors were very thrifty people. I am the first generation removed from the farm in my family. I do not live on a farm and do not have a garden. But I grew up in a household where the majority of our food came from what we grew rather than from the grocery store. And I've seen my mother get very creative when faced with an excess of some particular item. (When you run out of ideas, you find somebody else who needs the food. You NEVER waste it.) Barbara Cheri McElroy wrote: > > Hi - I don't mean to sound ignorant, but aren't pickled eggs (or > beets) just a simple, basic thing that people have been eating for > centuries in any country that has the ingredients? I've eaten them in > Germany, but also in Siberia. I've heard of them in English dishes . > . . it just seems like it could be called a "russian" dish as easily > as a "german" dish. Am I wrong in this? > - Cheri > Cheri Lee McElroy > cmcelroy@mexia.com > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/2840

Vee, I did my share of washing that way; helping my Mom. And, yes, there were two tubs of rinse water. Also remember the soap: Rinso White! Pat

I am looking for the roots of my ggfather Joshua C ABBOTT 1800 PA-1886 CA PA>OH?>AR>CA. In 1830 he married Elizabeth Ann Matthews, (1. Joel EPPPERSON, TN) and they had 5 children in Benton Co AR: Richard b 1832 (Mary StClair or Sinclair), Catherine (BURNS) 1834- ; Daniel 1836-1906 (Fannie FINE); Adaline Eliza (SCHROEBEL) 1838; Malissa (BOX) 1840 I don't know any sibs' or parents' names. Family stories are that he was PA-D. Does anyone have any connections? I haven't done any of the snail mail research work yet; been too busy keeping up with email posts! But I thought I'd try to see if an SOS turned up any "cousins". (I found three that way!) Thanks, Win in MN wterrell1@juno.com

Hi: Saw the recent post stating that Matterstown isn't in the 1900 list. This comes as no surprise, as I mentioned in my email to you that I think it's more of a place name than a town; I don't know any real history about it offhand, other than I think you will find a lot of Matters living there in the early days. Drove down that way today because I seemed to recall that there's a road known as Matterstown road in the area, and took some photos of the road signs. If you have a fairly decent map of PA, just to give you an idea of where this is, find "Elizabethville" and go a little northwest to "Curtin." Matterstown is in between. Hope this helps. Ralph H. Schwalm

While this is definitely not a PD type posting, I would like to at least not let this sad day go by without mentoning that we as a world have lost a marvelous woman with the death of Princess Diana. No matter what we may have thought of her, she was a person who gave selflessly to those in need and championed the rights of many, and her death in such a tragic way is a loss to all of us. My heart goes out to her family and especially to her two young sons. Nikki

Sorry, everyone! Emily BRUNER and Dave BEATTY were married about 1870.

If you haven't visited Rod's PD List page recently, you MUST!! Check out his GREAT bibliographies of PD books, journals, newspapers, genealogies - all referencing the PD heritage & people!! It's great to have these all in one place!! Thanks a lot, Rod!! -Linnea P.S. The URL is: <http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html>

Loved this, Vee!! As a little girl in the 50's (ya, I'mm a "baby") I can recall each Monday morning rushing to get up & dressed so I could help Mormor (my mother's mother - 'member, my husband's the PD, I'm 1/2 Swedish!!) do her "vash"! We lived upstairs in a 2-family home in Hartford CT. Your rendition is just about the way things were done in her house, also!! And yes, almost EVERYTHING was ironed - even down to Morfar's union suits (don't remember the socks, though)! Yes, that was Tuesday! Anyone recall that great new clothesline invention? The line was 2 metal wires which would twist together. You would "pinch" your clothes as the line twisted! No need for clothespins!! It REALLY hurt when you got your finger stuck inbetween the wires, also! In the late summer, Mormor would make her "yelly" (I'd always joke with her about her "j's"! She had been here over 50 years & STILL couldn't get them right, so she used the "y"!) Currant jelly was the most common. I recall helping her to twist the cheesecloth to drain all the yummy juice from the berries. Then melting the wax to seal the jars. Her baked goods were the BEST! She kept her flour in a huge crock in the pantry. The bullas (a sweet yeast bun drizzled with 10X sugar/milk mixture) were the family favorite. I have many of Mormor's recipes. Mom had to "follow her around" with paper & pencil to get the ingredients/amounts, since it was all in her head! Both of my sons like the platte (Swedish pancakes) - that recipe's in my head!! Oh yes, she always had to watch her "sketches"!! I recall a few (if not all) were still the 15-minute variety on early TV. Mormor didn't sew (Moster Hilma had that talent! - that's her sister: Moster = "mother's sister". Aren't some foreign languages wonderfully explicit!?!) But Mormor taught me to knit, crochet & do many other needlecrafts (which I have gotten away from lately due to this research!!) Thanks again, Vee, for bringing back some fond memories!! -Linnea >MONDAY WAS WARSH DAY! > >This evening as I was ironing an accumulation of cotton tablecloths, >linen napkins and the like, it brought my mind back to my growing up in >the 1930s and 40s. Back in those days, housewives had a set >routine--looking back on it, I swear it must have been the law! > >Monday: Do the wash (or as Grandma pronounced it, “warsh!”) >Tuesday: Iron the clothes >Wednesday: Bake the bread >Thursday: Go to market?? (OK, I’m lost here!) >

MONDAY WAS WARSH DAY! This evening as I was ironing an accumulation of cotton tablecloths, linen napkins and the like, it brought my mind back to my growing up in the 1930s and 40s. Back in those days, housewives had a set routine--looking back on it, I swear it must have been the law! Monday: Do the wash (or as Grandma pronounced it, “warsh!”) Tuesday: Iron the clothes Wednesday: Bake the bread Thursday: Go to market?? (OK, I’m lost here!) Now in my day, doing the wash meant getting up early, (Of course! A proper housewife ALWAYS got up early!), stripping the beds of bed linen and gathering up the laundry and sorting it out--whites in one pile, colored in another. And down into the cellar with the whole lot. Fill up the Maytag wringer washer with HOT water and add the soap. (Note, I said “soap,” not detergent! A bit of a comment on soap later). The first to go into the washer were the cotton sheets and pillow cases. Bluing had also been added to the water to whiten everything and then the machine was turned on. Klunka, chunka, swish, swish went the agitator. When she felt the clothes had been in there long enough to be clean, the machine was stopped and it was time to rinse them (“Rench” them, as Grandma would say!). That meant turning on the wringer, gather the sheet in just the right way and feed it through the wringer to wring out the soapsuds. As the wringer pulled the sheet through, there was a galvanized wash tub filled with clear water waiting for it. After the bed linens had been sloshed up an down a number of times by hand, the washing machine wringer was maneuvered so that the linens could be fed through the wringer again and into the wicker clothes basket. (Hmmm, somehow I can picture a second rinse tub but that's what happens when the memory gets dim!) At any rate, out onto the cotton clothes line they went, pinned up with wooden clothes pins to dry. (BTW, not the “snap-type” wooden clothes pins.) Load after load of laundry was washed in the same soapy water and rinse water until every dirty piece of fabric in the house was clean and hanging out on the clothes line. Of course, my mother insisted that my father’s cotton handkerchiefs be “snowy white.” He worked in a factory and wiped his dirty brow frequently; therefore, there was always the large kettle on the stove to boil them in before they went into the washing machine. Now, regarding the soap! All you needed to do was to listen to the radio to find out what soap would clean your clothes the best. During the entire afternoon, you listened to the “Soap Operas!” Why were they called Soap Operas? Well, because almost every one of the 15-minute programs were sponsored by soap manufacturers. And all day long, the housewife stayed tuned to the radio to hear the latest segment of “Stella Dallas” or “One Man’s Family” and all of the rest of them. And while she listened, she took note of the commercials: Buy Duz soap, D U Z does everything! Fels Naptha, Oxydol, etc. Oh, how they all promised to make your clothes so CLEAN!! What a sin it would have been if a neighbor thought your clothes were a tattle-tale gray! When the clothes were dry, they were brought back inside and then were dampened by sprinkling them with water, rolled up tightly and placed back into the clothes basket to be ironed the next day. In addition, and my memory is a bit foggy here, those clothes that needed to be starched (which I seem to recall were MOST of them!) were sloshed up and down in a kettle of warm water with a cake of starch disolved in it on the stove. Come to think of it, I guess that was done before they were hung out on the line. Oh well! And the next day, everything got ironed with the exception of maybe the socks! And so went the average week for the housewife. Happy Labor Day, girls!! :-D Vee