You folks and your remembrances of Mondays left me with a great big dose of nostalgia and also ROFLOL. I spent most of my childhood at my grandparents house and what you were describing is EXACTLY what I remember my grandmother doing. Good grief I hadn't thought about that stuff in many, many moons. I especially remember her curtain stretchers. Boy could you ever get a punctured finger from those babies!!! I think too that, as much starch as was in the curtains, if you bent them too hard, they would probably have broken. :-D Oh boy, you have made me smile today with these stories. Thanks for bringing them up. Judy PS - My dog gets SOOO excited when I ask her if she wants to go along out to hang up the "WARSH". My husband asked me where I heard that word. I said I didn't know but maybe I just made it up to get a rise out of the dog. Little did I know that it must be something I heard as a kid.

Joan, The older PD still speak that way here. That's Montg., Lehigh and Berks Co.s I'd say it universal. Candy Vee, your Penna Dutch version of the word wash as warsh reminds me of how my father would pronounce the name for the "awnings" we had over our porch windows--he called them "ornings," and I think I must have been about 12 or so before I learned they were really "awnings!" Was this universal Penna Dutch pronounciation or was it an Adams and York County dialect I wonder? Joan Myers Young ----------

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Hi: I'm an American and married into a British family, and actually moved to England in 1978). Even in modern England, sometimes the plentiful marketing cleaning items we are used to in America were not available in Europe. As a new bride, I set out to the corner market to find a product to take the modern day, ring around the collar out of my husbands white shirts. No Clorox II, Zout, etc., available. My mother-in-law suggested I boil the shirts on top of the stove and put just a bit of washing up liquid (like our dishwashing liquid) in the pot. So every week, I would boil the shirts clean. When I returned home to American, my grandmother (who is Pennsylvania-Dutch) looked at me like she could hardly believe what I said. She told me they would boil their clothes in a kettle to get them clean when she was a small child. Being a modern women, I had never heard of this. I can still remember the look on her face when I told her how I would do the laundry. Anyway, fortunately in our modern warshing days (yes, my family still referes to this as warsh not wash) we have great products that help. I can report that England now has many of these items also. Still, if you want them really WHITE, BOIL THEM!!! Thanks for your time, Genny Baughman Payne Searching: BAUGHMAN...VANAMAN...BEAL...RARICK...KENNEL...WHIGHAM...BROADSTREET......MCFARLAND...ROBERTS Mrs_Nice@juno.com

My friend made these comments when I sent her the Warsh Day story. :-)

SEE PAGE 372-373 OF "The Genealogical and Personal History of Bucks Co" ...........daughter... Flora married F. L. Brinker ....I have no connection to this family...just helping out. Rich in TAMPA Slotz2812@aol.com wrote: > > Hi I am reseaching Martin from Bucks County. His name is Adam MARTIN. He > owned a farm and was a politican. This would of been in the early 1800. He > daughter married to Frank BRINKER. Any connection let me know -- \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) +------------------oOOo- (_) --oOOo-----------------+ |W*elch,W*ittwer,M*auchly,Z*immerman,S*tone,Z*eigler | |R*yf,A*mstutz,L*ewis,H*ardee,T*yson,S*chochli,W*eber| |Z*urfluh,S*pychiger,M*osser,A*mstutz,N*euenschwander| |N*ussbaum,S*hitz,H*enry,M*osteller,A*bel,M*ay,F*ish | |M*allory,M*etzger,M*organ,T*immons,B*rooks,L*eichti | |F*ields,C*herry,M*oore,R*ouse,McG*owan,M*oye,C*orey | +-----------------------------Oooo.------------------+ I'm ( ) Richard Welch .oooO ) / tree@oasistech.com TAMPA ( ) (_/ \ ( Searchin' \_)

> Can someone verify or destroy this family conclusions? Well, I can't verify it and I have no reason to destroy it. Your message about WEHRLY with reference to the year 1740 takes the name back the furthest that I know about. My grandmother's maiden name was WEHRLE (other relatives spell it WEHRLI). I have seen variants spelled WEARLEY, WORLEY, and now WEHRLY. My grandmother's father was Joseph WEHRLE, but I don't know where his family is from, except that they were probably originally from Germany. My grandmother was born in Blackjack, Illinois, which no longer exists. It was located somewhere south of Lebanon, Ill, in Bond County. I don't recognize any of the names in the list below. O.G. Marti, Jr. omarti@tifton.cpes.peachnet.edu > > Heinrich WEHRLY born circa 1740 married Catherine MOSER. Catherine born > 1743, died 1834 in York Co., PA. Their children: > > i. Heinrich WEHRLY b. ca 1770 York Co., PA., d. 1846 Tuscarawas Co., OH, > m. Christina SAUBEL. > ii. John George WEHRLY, b. ca 1772 > iii. Elizabeth WEHRLY, b. May 30, 1774 York Co., PA, d. February 8, 1852 > Preble Co., OH, m. Henry PETRY. > >

Dear Mary, If you have Netscape Navigator, one possible solution to your problem with font size and color on the PD Homepage is to go into your Options Menu and select General Preferences. From here you can look into the font and color folders, respectively, and enlarge the fonts and change the color scheme. I find that light is almost as important as size when I try to read some things, like maps and telephone books. Good luck. Hazel

Hi, Everybody, I have not seen the SHUSTER surname anywhere and am wondering if anyone has any information on them. I have them descended down from Isaac Shuster, Sr. no dates, m. Lucinda Rugh. The Shuster family married into: RUGH, BRINKER, MILLER, BOYER, JOHNSON, HAYS, that I know of. I do have more information and am willing to share if anyone can help. Thanks, Sally in Texas

In a message dated 97-09-01 00:12:14 EDT, PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com writes: << Monday: Do the wash (or as Grandma pronounced it, �warsh!�) >> Vee, your Penna Dutch version of the word wash as warsh reminds me of how my father would pronounce the name for the "awnings" we had over our porch windows--he called them "ornings," and I think I must have been about 12 or so before I learned they were really "awnings!" Was this universal Penna Dutch pronounciation or was it an Adams and York County dialect I wonder? Joan Myers Young

............................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > small fruit with a paper-like skin that had to be peeled off. These were > > then made into pies, etc. No one seems to grow them anymore, and I can't > > seem to find out what they really were. Any ideas? > > Mike in NYMOTHER STILL GROWS THEM...AND YES, THEY MAKE EXCELLENT PIE!!!!!!!! NOW I AM VERY HUNGRY, AND MOTHER'S PIES ARE 1100 MILES AWAY!! RICH IN TAMPA -- \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) +------------------oOOo- (_) --oOOo-----------------+ |W*elch,W*ittwer,M*auchly,Z*immerman,S*tone,Z*eigler | |R*yf,A*mstutz,L*ewis,H*ardee,T*yson,S*chochli,W*eber| |Z*urfluh,S*pychiger,M*osser,A*mstutz,N*euenschwander| |N*ussbaum,S*hitz,H*enry,M*osteller,A*bel,M*ay,F*ish | |M*allory,M*etzger,M*organ,T*immons,B*rooks,L*eichti | |F*ields,C*herry,M*oore,R*ouse,McG*owan,M*oye,C*orey | +-----------------------------Oooo.------------------+ I'm ( ) Richard Welch .oooO ) / tree@oasistech.com TAMPA ( ) (_/ \ ( Searchin' \_)

I want to thank allyou gracious people for trying to help me view internet pages by changing my machine. I had not realized I could do this. I have tried some of your methods but have not found the right buttons yet. If I have to I will call on my friendly computer repairman for advice. It will be a great thing for me to learn how to be more in control of this thing.I don't think we should clutter the list with my problems so I will go private for help from right now. Thanks to all. I use Microsoft Explorer. <G> Jeff I found those buttons and will start pushing. Mary Russell bird@scrtc.blue.net tomrussell@mindless.com Glasgow Kentucky > Are you a Netscape user? If so: > > Click on the "Options" menu and select "General Preferences." This will pop Snip------------------

The set day to do a specific thing was nationwide. As a child in the 50's in central US, we followed the same schedule. Ever get your fingers caught in the wringer? It's an experience that usually only happened ONCE! I can't remember what Friday was for but Saturday was cleaning house to be ready for the Sabbath. Although I'm a "city kid", I can remember visiting the farm and wondering how my grandmother did all that and still cooked for the farm hands, especially the huge noon dinner. I also have fond memories of watching my PD ggrandmother in the evenings. After supper was "cleared away", she'd sit in her favorite chair and crochet, night after night after night. Her hands were never idle. One didn't need a clock to know it was bedtime. All of a sudden she would put her crocheting away, check to see if the doors were locked, check the kitchen for the stray dirty dish and everyone knew it was time for bed. No questions asked! BG

------Begin forward message------------------------- From: jbhead To: housman@concentric.net Cc: pennadutch Date: 09/01/97 09:08:31 Message-Id: <1997919831226500@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: definition PA Dutch? X-Mailer: NETCOMplete v3.20, from NETCOM On-Line Communications, Inc. On 08/26/97 21:36:57 you wrote: > >Dear John and/or Barbara, > >Does your family "qualify" as Penna-Dutch (PD)?? Well, if I have >anything to say about it, I say that they certainly do! :-D Vee- Hi! I think you sent this message to me. It is my gg grandfather who is PD. His name is Peter Knote born 20 June 1818 and died in Indiana in 1857. His brother was John Knote born in 1807 and died in West Virginia in 1886. They were born in Lancaster County. I do not have information on their parents and am hoping by joining your group I can gain some insight. I have other relatives who were in Huntingdon, Bedford and Blair counties which I am not sure if that is really included in PD. So if you could let me know I would appreciate the information. I am enjoying all the PD information that is being shared. Thanks, Barb ------End forward message---------------------------

Hi Vee and All, I can remember helping my mother with the wash. We did it on Mondays. I still sort my wash the same way. We had two wash tubs. Does anyone remember how it hurt when you got your had stuck in the wringers. Ouch!!! Same thing hung it out on the rope clothes lines with the old wooden clothes pins. (not the springy ones) Still have those clothes pins, took them up to the cabin. What memories, Thanks Vee. Candy Montg. Co., Pa.

[I was going to reply privately to Bonnie Coy, but I realized that some newer listmembers might benefit from learning about various resources for surname searches.] Hi, Bonnie, and all! As for the COW name, you might try the following: KOUGH, KAUGH, COWE, COWIE, CAHOW. As for eliminating the "widow with a cow" entries, try starting with the "surname" lists, especially the following sites: The numerous searchable lists accessible from Cyndi's List: http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm http://www.gendex.com/ http://www.ancestry.com http://www.rootsweb.com http://www.familytreemaker.com * * I think that people who are not FTM 4.0 registered users can search for appearances of SURNAME-X on the home pages of FTM users. Those of us who are FTM 4.0 users can also search the Internet for SURNAME-X; only names turn up, not common words/phrases. (I believe this site uses SOUNDEX codes in the search, too.) Try also using Yahoo! or Alta Vista to search for "COW + GEDCOM" -- that's how I found GENDEX in the first place. http://www.yahoo.com/ http://www.altavista.digital.com ____________________ Here are "clickable" links for fellow AOL users: <A HREF="http://www.oz.net/~cyndihow/sites.htm">Cyndi's List</A> <A HREF="http://www.gendex.com/"> http://www.gendex.com/</A> <A HREF="http://www.ancestry.com">Genealogy: Ancestry Home Town</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com">Rootsweb (surname lookups)</A> <A HREF="http://www.familytreemaker.com">http://www.familytreemaker.com</A> <A HREF="http://www.yahoo.com/">Yahoo!</A> <A HREF="http://www.altavista.digital.com">AltaVista Search Engine</A> Anne Lurie St. George, Vermont

But were they Red Beet Eggs? The way we make them. Sylvia

Mary Russell wrote: > > Linnea , I went to Rods page and was disappointed again as I have been > several times in the last few days when I've tried looking a pages. > I can't see well. I am probably not the only person using a computer who > can not see well. what I am finding is pages with dark backgrounds and > writing that is either too small or of a color that I can't see to read. > On Rod's page I can find the highlighted addresses to take me to other > pages but I can't read any of them. I looked at a page yesterday with > writing so small that even with my magnifying glass I couldn't read it. I > will have to miss all those good pages like many other people. I suppose > people making these pages for us can't think of everything and try to make > the pages full of good > information I really hate missing some of them. > Rod, I know this is off topic for the list , sorry. > Mary Russell bird@scrtc.blue.net > > Glasgow Kentucky > > > If you haven't visited Rod's PD List page recently, you MUST!! Check out > > his GREAT bibliographies of PD books, journals, newspapers, genealogies - > > all referencing the PD heritage & people!! It's great to have these all > in > > one place!! Thanks a lot, Rod!! > > > > -Linnea > > > > P.S. The URL is: <http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html> > > > >Hi Mary: I'm no computer expert, but I think if you are using a browser such as Netscape, you can click on "Options" and then on "General Preferences" and from there you can make changes to any webpage you want: you can change the background color and the text color,etc. I'm not sure if there's much you can do to change the size of the text though. However, if you go out of the web and find your mouse icon, you also might be able to configure your mouse so that, when you want, it will pop-up a tiny "Magnifying lens" which will allow you to see the lettering greatly enlarged. (I don't know if I've explained this very well; it's early, and I haven't had my morning cup of coffee yet). If you need more details let us know what browser you use and the type of mouse you have; hopefully somebody will be able to help you, or email me and I'll try to come up with a clearer explanation. Ralph H. Schwalm

Hi Everyone, I'm leaving for London on Thursday. If anyone needs me to do a quick lookup at London's Public Records Office, please e-mail me the information you are looking for by Wednesday. I will try to do as many lookups as I can as time permits. Betsy Warner ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I have an Harvey Allebaugh maried to Beatrice Scheetz in Pa would like to know if it one and the same. Have lots of Scheetz info but no Allabaugh info would ove to learn more.