>> Besides learning how to do the "warsh", I was taught to "read up" the >> house. I always thought that this came from "ready", as in "getting the >> place ready for company". > >I like this etomology; my mother also "Redd up the house." - that was >how I thought of it as being spelled, no idea why. If you spell it your >way then your etomology makes a lot of sense.Yes, one could also redd up >a table or a room, it didn't haveto be a whole house. > I was one of three kids. One warshed the dishes, one dried and put away, and the third had to red/read/redd up the table. We generally had to clean and dust the house. Here on the edge of Amish/Mennonite country EVERYONE called it warsh. Had been wondering if someone would mention redding up. I'm much more Swiss than Pa-Dutch, tho I have some on each side of the family. This area of Ohio has always been called little Switzerland. And I'm beginning to really see why. <G> Wrootchy - the kids have ants in their pants, can't sit still -(spielkuss in Yiddish) or Wrootching - squirming as in "wrootching in your seat" And here we called it scrootching around... ginseng@sssnet.com

Brent E. Coy wrote: > > Besides learning how to do the "warsh", I was taught to "read up" the > house. I always thought that this came from "ready", as in "getting the > place ready for company". I like this etomology; my mother also "Redd up the house." - that was how I thought of it as being spelled, no idea why. If you spell it your way then your etomology makes a lot of sense. I'm not sure how 'Dutch' this is though, my mother was English (though my father is PA Dutch, I don't remember him saying it - maybe just because he wasn't the one who did it!) Yes, one could also redd up a table or a room, it didn't have to be a whole house. I haven't heard anyone say that in years. jan <janiceaf@ix.netcom.com> Interested in names: FRANK, KELLER, PENROSE, SCHULTZ

How about the word "WOPPERJAWED" for something that is crooked? Mary Jo

Hey, my best friend, Margaret, from Massachussetts says "Warsh" too. Jan Lund

Dear Sue, Thank you soooooo much for posting that to the group! From my point of view it served to put that bit of memories that I wrote into the focus that I was really aiming at. Appreciate the hard work that went into the everyday lives of your ancestors--whether it was in the 1900s or the 1700s. In the 1930s and 40s we knew we had it good because we had electric wringer washers. Nonetheless, washday was always "Blue Monday" or was referred to as "Washday Blues." The housewife worked hard all day long getting the laundry washed, out on the line, brought back in again, sprinkled or dampened and and making certain all the beds were made up for the night. Many housewives' magazines of the time featured easy to prepare recipes and labeled them especially for Monday. Did I complain about the hard work? Not that I can recall. Did my mother or did Grandma? Not that I know of. Nonetheless, I can guarantee that when the women went to bed on Monday night, there was a world-wide epidemic of "headaches!" :-D vee

In a message dated 97-09-02 15:32:02 EDT, PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com writes: << i was told to "red" the table, meaning clear the table. do you suppose that >is PD? >> I guess I missed that one since it was my dad and not my mom who was Penna Dutch. However, when we were out of potatoes they were "all,"--not "all gone"--just "all," and when you wanted the light turned off you would "outen" it. Joan Myers Young

"red up your room" was heard daily in our house rod

Rod, Want to make the connection, but when I hit (tried 4 times) the blue "PDL Surnames page" I keep getting "Failed to parcse HTTP". And when I try the URL it does not goes thru either. What can I do to make the connection??

lamparte@juno.com wrote: > > >MONDAY WAS WARSH DAY! > > > >Vee > > > You've given your mother's origins away - waRsh is a western PA > pronunciation. At least I don't recall hearing this pronunciation among > our Lancaster county family. The dividing line where western > pronunciations begin seems to be about Huntingdon and Blair counties . > Another W PA-ism is you'uns (as opposed to you [pleural] or youse). > You-uns also seems to begin about Huntingdon county in my experience. If > you can recall some of these from your older relatives, it may provide > you with a clue as to their origins. > > Below are the Dutchisms I recall from my growing up > > Wrootchy - the kids have ants in their pants, can't sit still -(spielkuss > in Yiddish) > > or Wrootching - squirming as in "wrootching in your seat" > > Ret up - clean up > > It's all - they leave off the 'gone' in "all gone" > > Gnotch - [long O as in oval] - as in "Quit gnotching the dog" - annoying, > pestering an animal. I don't recall having heard it used in reference to > annoying people. > > Those are the ones that come to mind quickly. > Bob Lamparter May I add - stroobly - "Your hair is stroobly." All messed up, needs to be combed. ferhuddled - "I'm all ferhuddled." Mixed up, confused.

History of York County PA John Gibson, Historical Editor Chicago FA Battey Publishing Co. 1886 ...From this document I have been able to find these different spellings of the HÖCH name from Germany ...For new people on the list... in the German language: the Ö has the sound of e as in get, and the ch has the sound of K as in katsup ...now this is not absolute it is simply information that I have gleamed from this document and shared with the list... use it accordingly... Hake Hock Höck (always written thus in German) Hanau Land, Holzhausen, Germany Houck ---Michael started this spelling -- 1775 Heck – Frederick Obland started this spelling –1767 Hick – Christian started this spelling – about 1785 Heek -- Jacob started this spelling – 1762 Hack – Andrew and John started this spelling (in Baltimore,MD) -- +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Ed Hake bear@centercomp.com | | Alden-VT,NY,MN/ Denney/Denny-VA,KY,IN,OR/ Farwell-NY,MN/ | | Hoech/Höch/Hock/Hake-Hanau H.Germany,PA,WI,MN/ | | Hathaway-MN,WA,OR,Australia/ Hicklin-VA,IN,OR/ | | King-IN,OR/ Walling/Wallen-MA,CT,NY,VA,IL,OR/ | | http://www.centercomp.com/bear/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------+

History of York County PA John Gibson, Historical Editor Chicago FA Battey Publishing Co. 1886 ...From this document I have been able to find these different familys that married into the Hake family ...now this is not absolute it is simply information that I have gleamed from this document and shared with the list... use it accordingly... ...and I have no other information about these people...sorry Glatfelter Gross moore Eisenhart Boose Good (formally spelled GUTH) Baer Neiman Copenhafer Wintermyer Loucks Greaves Ottenburger Hoofman Wiser Fisher Deardorf Beuhler Deardorf Wanemaker Wire Holabush Core Barr Neyman Benedict Maish Shettle Atland Rudy Metzger Jacoby Ginter Fink Miller Charleston Zimmerman Christine Meisenhelder Spar Boyer Wynkoop Shellabarger Zest Cocklin Free Fahs Schindel Reeser Beck McNeal Wilt Tyler Eversole Geiselman Grove Ulrich +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Ed Hake bear@centercomp.com | | Alden-VT,NY,MN/ Denney/Denny-VA,KY,IN,OR/ Farwell-NY,MN/ | | Hoech/Höch/Hock/Hake-Hanau H.Germany,PA,WI,MN/ | | Hathaway-MN,WA,OR,Australia/ Hicklin-VA,IN,OR/ | | King-IN,OR/ Walling/Wallen-MA,CT,NY,VA,IL,OR/ | | http://www.centercomp.com/bear/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------+

>The older PD still speak that way here. That's Montg., Lehigh and Berks >Co.s I'd say it universal. >Vee, your Penna Dutch version of the word wash as warsh reminds me of >how my >father would pronounce the name for the "awnings" we had over our porch >windows--he called them "ornings," and I think I must have been about >12 or so before I learned they were really "awnings!" Was this People still talk that way around here. My husband for one ;) He says warsh and rinch (rinse). And the other day at work, one of the girls was teasing another about saying warsh instead of wash. Pam in Vigo Co, IN http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9467/ `[1;33;43mRainbow V 1.20.2 for Delphi - Registered

i envy your trip. Other friends of ours leave in 8 days for London. It is unfortunate that the mood there will be akin to post-Challenger America. Good luck digging and have a wonderful time. rod

antoinette, go to this page and scroll. <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pdlsurn ames.html">PDL surnames page</A> or http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pdlsurnames.html rod

Anybody else "lift the meat" for supper?? Bruce At 01:49 PM 9/2/97 -0400, marcia wilson wrote: >>Brent coy wrote: >>Besides learning how to do the "warsh", I was taught to "read up" the >>house. I always thought that this came from "ready", as in "getting the >>place ready for company". >> >i was told to "red" the table, meaning clear the table. do you suppose that >is PD? marcia > >marcia wilson >please check out my web page: >http://nj5.injersey.com/~mwilson/ > > > >

History of York County PA John Gibson, Historical Editor Chicago FA Battey Publishing Co. 1886 Jennie E. Hake m. Luther S. Glatfelter Aug 14 1881 (Lutheran) children: William Jacob (died in infancy) Charles Walter Samual Glatfelter Was born near Hanover, York, PA August 4 1819. His parents were John and Margaret (Keyser) Glatfelter, of York Co. They had three sons and one daughter Being the eldest Samuel remained on the farm and like his father has followed farming ever since. In his youth he attended Subscription schools, and at age of nineteen years went to Indiana, with his parents but stayed there for only a few months. And then returned to PA. Stopping in Indiana co. about 4 years. Coming back to his native county, he followed Distilling for a few years. July 25th 1844 He married Susan Heindel daughter of Jacob Heindal . Mr and Mrs Glatfelter were of German decent. Mrs Glatfelter died January 28th 1879 leaving six children. Two children were buried before her: Catharine in her 22 year and Isabel, in her 27th year after his mothers death Samual L. died in his 26th year and Amanda Jane April 13 1883 aged 34 years. Leaving the following: Susan, Julian, Margaret E., Emma L. The Family belong to the Lutheran Church Mr. Glatfelter has for some time been school director. In Politics he is Democratic In the Spring of 1859 he removed to the place he now owns and occupies, a truly fine thrifty farm of about 155 acres.

>Brent coy wrote: >Besides learning how to do the "warsh", I was taught to "read up" the >house. I always thought that this came from "ready", as in "getting the >place ready for company". > i was told to "red" the table, meaning clear the table. do you suppose that is PD? marcia marcia wilson please check out my web page: http://nj5.injersey.com/~mwilson/

My wife, who will be 60 in about 50 more days, still eats cottage cheese with sugar on it. > ---------- > From: Patricia Bogel[SMTP:pbogel@serv2.fwi.com] > Reply To: pbogel@serv2.fwi.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 1997 11:35 AM > To: Woodard, Larry > Cc: housman@concentric.net; PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Monday Was Warsh Day! > > Yes, we sure did use the blueing. As I recall it came in a little bag > that we would use each week until there was no more. > Also, not connected with washing, but Mom made cottage cheese and > hung > it in cheesecloth to drip on the clothesline. It had the finest curds. > Back then we always used to put sugar on it. I haven't eaten that way > since I was a kid, but I still prefer the small curds to the large > ones. > > Pat > > Woodard, Larry wrote: > > > > I suppose you also putting the white things through a "blue" rinse > to > > make them whiter? > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Patricia Bogel[SMTP:pbogel@serv2.fwi.com] > > > Reply To: pbogel@serv2.fwi.com > > > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 1997 11:24 PM > > > To: housman@concentric.net > > > Cc: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: Monday Was Warsh Day! > > > > > > Vee, I did my share of washing that way; helping my Mom. And, yes, > > > there were two tubs of rinse water. Also remember the soap: Rinso > > > White! > > > > > > Pat > > > >

Dear Bob, I guess it has become quite obvious that some of those expressions appear to have their origins in many places. Regarding my grandmother's use of the words, "warsh" and "rench," she was born and raised in Gettysburg, Adams Co. as were most of her ancestors. Regarding "y[o]u'ns," I heard it as a child in Steelton, Dauphin Co., (as in "Yuns kids get in here!) and just a couple of months ago from Audrey (as in "Do yuns want me to get you anything while I'm in the store?") who was born and raised and lives in Lancaster Co. Whoops! Sorry Audrey, that just slipped out! :-D It's a fascinating subject, isn't it? vee

Paul: I have a ggm Mary WARNER 1798 TN-1857 MO married John FINE; and g/aunt Martha Jane (Polly)WARNER circa 1825 AR- before 1857 AR died of typhoid or diphtheria, married John Wilson FINE. Do you have any connections? Thanks, Win in MN wterrell1@juno.com