I agree-all these messages, and none about genealogy! Tom On Wed, 03 Sep 1997 20:55:33 -0700 Avril Yoachim <ayoachim@thecni.com> writes: >Did I miss a change in the content for this mail list? >Is genealogy (tracing of family roots) no longer the subject for >Penna-Dutch? >Just wondering. >I really think it's a great idea to have one mail list specifically >for >recipes, sayings, and other paraphanelia and then another list for >surname searches. This way a person could join one or the other (or >both) depending on their interest. >Avril > >

Did I miss a change in the content for this mail list? Is genealogy (tracing of family roots) no longer the subject for Penna-Dutch? Just wondering. I really think it's a great idea to have one mail list specifically for recipes, sayings, and other paraphanelia and then another list for surname searches. This way a person could join one or the other (or both) depending on their interest. Avril

I was always asked after a good talking to, FERSTAY? My spelling, but I knew it meant UNDERSTAND?

Hi Grace... I "posted" earlier about the syrup question, and called it "Lion's Syrup". I meant to say.... "King's Syrup"! I believe that it has a lion on the label. Sorry about that. Louise Hudson MRS GRACE W EVANS wrote: > -- [ From: Grace Evans * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- > > Do you mean the kind of molasses that was pumped from a barrel into > your > jar? The closest thing I have found is Old Barrel Syrup. In this area > it > is more likely to be found in independent stores than in chain > supermarkets. If I can't get Old Barrel, I'll settle for King Syrup. > > Grace Evans > Lancaster PA > -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- > > > Date: Wednesday, 03-Sep-97 06:01 PM > > > > From: W Terrell \ Internet: (wterrell1@juno.com) > > To: Pa Dutch \ Internet: > (penna-dutch-l@rootsweb. > com) > > > > Subject: BREAD AND WHAT??? > > > > >ANY ONE REMEMBER A CERTYAIN KIND OF MOLLASSES THAT DISAPPEARED IN > THE > > '60'S > > >THAT YOU PUT ON BUTTERED BREAD? CAN'T REPLACE THAT TASTE. > > > > > > > I think Turkey Syrup comes close, now. > > > > -Linnea > > > > *****How about "sorgum" ? Win in MN > > > > > > -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- > > -- > Grace Evans mnjs13a@prodigy.com

I remember that one of my favorite sweet snacks was buttered bread and a certain type of mollasses that disappeared in the 60's. Did anyone else have that sweet tooth or remember the name of the molasses? No other brand worked.

Is anyone have these people in their line? Not certain, but believe they were born in the early 1900's. MARTHA SPANGLER DAISEY BENTZEL EMMA GROSS - Dorinda in Central Maryland DorindaMd@aol.com *** Did your ANCESTORS DIE WITHOUT a WILL before 1837? - Owned property in Frederick Co, Maryland (even though they may have moved on to VA, PA and Ohio or elsewhere) - Searching for TOMBSTONES in CARROLL CO, MD?? Then please check out this website <A HREF=" http://members.aol.com/DorWinda/index.html">Frederick Co, MD</A> <A HREF=" http://members.aol.com/DorWinda/index.html">http://members.aol.com/D orWinda/index.html</A> Researching - BUZZARD, COPPERSMITH / KUPFERSCHMIDT, CROUSE, CRUSE, DEMPSEY, ETZLER / ETSLER, FLEAGLE / FLEGLE / FLUGEL, FORTNEY, KOONTZ / KUNTZ, KRAUSS, KROUSE, LAUFFER (= RUNNER or WALKER), MARK(S) / MARCK, MORGENSTERN / MORNINGSTAR, RADGE / RATGE, SHRINER / SCHREINER, SHEPLEY STARNER, SUMMERS (German in MD), WACHTEL, WARNER, WERTENBAKER / WURTHENBACHER, WINTER(S) (PA & MD in 1700's, German) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Listowner of Old Frederick Co, Maryland Mail List & Winter Mail List To subscribe, put only subscribe in the body of the message and send to: MDFREDER-L-request@rootsweb.com WINTER-L-request@rootsweb.com Easiest way to SUBSCRIBE and UNSUBSCRIBE to Rootsweb Mail Lists is http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/

Searching for anyone with a Jacob Gladfelter in their tree, probably born in the early 1900's and probably around York or Adams Co, PA. (Or something close to this) - Dorinda in Central Maryland DorindaMd@aol.com *** Did your ANCESTORS DIE WITHOUT a WILL before 1837? - Owned property in Frederick Co, Maryland (even though they may have moved on to VA, PA and Ohio or elsewhere) - Searching for TOMBSTONES in CARROLL CO, MD?? Then please check out this website <A HREF=" http://members.aol.com/DorWinda/index.html">Frederick Co, MD</A> <A HREF=" http://members.aol.com/DorWinda/index.html">http://members.aol.com/D orWinda/index.html</A> Researching - BUZZARD, COPPERSMITH / KUPFERSCHMIDT, CROUSE, CRUSE, DEMPSEY, ETZLER / ETSLER, FLEAGLE / FLEGLE / FLUGEL, FORTNEY, KOONTZ / KUNTZ, KRAUSS, KROUSE, LAUFFER (= RUNNER or WALKER), MARK(S) / MARCK, MORGENSTERN / MORNINGSTAR, RADGE / RATGE, SHRINER / SCHREINER, SHEPLEY STARNER, SUMMERS (German in MD), WACHTEL, WARNER, WERTENBAKER / WURTHENBACHER, WINTER(S) (PA & MD in 1700's, German) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Listowner of Old Frederick Co, Maryland Mail List & Winter Mail List To subscribe, put only subscribe in the body of the message and send to: MDFREDER-L-request@rootsweb.com WINTER-L-request@rootsweb.com Easiest way to SUBSCRIBE and UNSUBSCRIBE to Rootsweb Mail Lists is http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/

Hi, I am looking for information on the subject names in Pennsylvania and Ohio. My g-g-grandfather Peleg M. Rumfield was born in Pennsylvania in 1818. I am not sure where he was born, but when he later went to Ohio, he was known as the "Pennsylvania Dutchman". I have found various Rumfields, Rumfelds etc., but have been thus far unable to connect them to my family. The names are fairly uncommon, so I would be happy to pursue any avenue. I would appreciate any information or help I could. Dick Sommer <rosommer@primenet.com>

Dear PD Rooters: I hope you will accept and enjoy a couple of PD-isms that came into our family lore not too long after the turn of the century in Caledonia, MI, which was settled by a lot of transplanted PD-ers from Lancaster County via Waterloo County, Ontario. My grandparents had a roomer named Gottlieb Minkus. He was very fond of listening in to the party line telephone as an evening's entertainment. It was not long before the others on the party line became aware of this, and would often make pointed comments about Gottlieb, just to get his goat - which it did. He would get more and more agitated and finally burst out with "Ja, Ja, lay it all to Gottlieb" - which then became the family saying for "All right, blame it all on me, why don't you?" Gottlieb also contributed the second saying. At the dinner table his habit was to tilt the platter and slide the food off on to his plate. Four generations later this is still known as "Minkusing" or (to) "Minkus it off" by our grandchildren in Lexington, KY and Chattanooga, TN. Allan E. Green

You made it Mary At 08:17 PM 9/3/97 -0500, Mary L Stone wrote: > >Dear list, > >Haven't been able to get through in a while, just writing to see myself >in print to see if I made it. > >Thanks > >Mary > > >

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I have thoroughly enjoyed reading about all the PD traditions from Rooters. They've brought back many memories from my growing-up time. I had forgotten about the lace curtains being stretched on the "prickly" tacks but sure enough, my mother did that to her curtains. One tradition from the butcherings I have attended was trying to attach the "pig's tail" to an unsuspecting person attending. That wasn't accomplished very often without the victim finding out what was happening but it did happen sometimes! One other post made me very nostalgic...schmeerkase and apple butter on home made bread. While a student at Hood College in Frederick, MD, one of our favorite meals was that, along with bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwiches. Betsy Payette PO Box 279 Mont Alto, PA 17237-0279 Betsy Payette PO Box 279 Mont Alto, PA 17237-0279 717-749-5872 gnp1@psu.edu

w Terrell wrote: > ><< My wife, who will be 60 in about 50 more days, still eats cottage > cheese > > with sugar on it. >> > >And here I have been eating it all these years with apple butter. > > > >Joan Myers Young > My dad preferred schmearkase und kimmel. Sorry, I've forgotten most of my German, is kimmel honey? That is what my dad put on it. I am interested in the schmearkase anyway -- I think my family had lost virutually all German for 4 or 5 generations (until I took it in college) but the one word I remember my father using was Schmearkase. I doubt that he even realized it was German. -- jan <janiceaf@ix.netcom.com> Interested in names: FRANK, KELLER, PENROSE, SCHULTZ

Dear list, Haven't been able to get through in a while, just writing to see myself in print to see if I made it. Thanks Mary

In a message dated 97-09-03 11:02:14 EDT, you write: << (apple butter) is concerned, eat that on some homemade bread and you'll be in seventh heaven. >> I always ate that at a child...Dad introduced me...and I never knew it was P-D! (He was of PD descent; Mom was Irish) Jane

Hi all, Speaking of "warsh" and "red"...my dad was the one of PA Dutch descent, and as a child, I always remember him making something he called (phonetically) "Wunnernaus". It basically came down to cleaning out the fridge of leftovers and doing something with it all in a pan....but only Dad could make it come out right. He also made a "brown potato soup". Anyone have a recipe for that? By the way, "warsh" is an everyday word here in Maine. Also, "idear" or any other word supposed to end in vowel! (Put r in where there isn't any; take it out where there is one!) Being from NY, I get a kick out of all this .... as they do out of me. Up here they also have "door yards" and put things "back to". Jane

I was born and raised in Marianna,Pa. West Bethlehem Twp.in Washington County.I am in my 60,s, I now live in Arizona and have never been able to lose the word yuns.I cannot bring myself to use the word youall.For me it does not seem right.Besides I am proud to be a Pennsylvanian.I also know about those wash days,which we never used to say warsh.The washing procedure was exactly like mother used to do.Have a great day to all. -- Frances Prohonas prohonas@phnx.uswest.net Phoenix, Az Check out my homepage at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/7345

P.S. Sorry, I forgot that what I really do is "redd" up the house to show (but I don't get a special day to do it--just drop everything when the realtor calls). Brenda

At 02:56 PM 9/3/97 -0700, Bill & Joy Heape wrote: >Brenda Hebert wrote: > >> Usually, beef was cut into cubes about one inch and >> packed into fruit jars and processed like vegetables. It was just >> beef, >> not steak or roast. The broth in the fruit jars made the most >> delactable >> gravy I have ever eaten. > > Does anyone have a recipe or directions on how to can beef as above? >Actually, I'd be interested in trying it on deer meat. Even those in my >family who didn't care for deer meat would eat my Grandma's venison >fixed this way. I believe she soaked it in a solution in a barrel >before canning it. She died in 1979 and the recipe is long gone (or >maybe she didn't use one!) > >Have enjoyed all these stories and PD expressions! Wouldn't you rather >be "befutzed" or "befuddled" any day than stressed? :-) > I've done up venison for at least 15 years now. For canning venison, I always pick the toughest nastiest pieces (like the bottom of the legs). Cut in chunks, approximately 1" square. Fill quart or pint jars with pieces of meat to withing an inch of top. (I've never pre-cooked them) Fill jar with water to within 1". Add salt (if desired) and a clove of minced garlic. (Deer meat ALWAYS tastes better with garlic) Process at 10# pressure for 75 min for pints, 90 min for quarts in a pressure canner. The meat will just flake apart and the gravy is terrific!!! Instant bbq-deerwiches when company drops in. Deer meat and gravy over mashed potatoes. MMMMmmmmm good! If you have any other questions just ask. ginseng@sssnet.com

-- [ From: Grace Evans * EMC.Ver #2.5.3 ] -- Do you mean the kind of molasses that was pumped from a barrel into your jar? The closest thing I have found is Old Barrel Syrup. In this area it is more likely to be found in independent stores than in chain supermarkets. If I can't get Old Barrel, I'll settle for King Syrup. Grace Evans Lancaster PA -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- > Date: Wednesday, 03-Sep-97 06:01 PM > > From: W Terrell \ Internet: (wterrell1@juno.com) > To: Pa Dutch \ Internet: (penna-dutch-l@rootsweb. com) > > Subject: BREAD AND WHAT??? > > >ANY ONE REMEMBER A CERTYAIN KIND OF MOLLASSES THAT DISAPPEARED IN THE > '60'S > >THAT YOU PUT ON BUTTERED BREAD? CAN'T REPLACE THAT TASTE. > > > > I think Turkey Syrup comes close, now. > > -Linnea > > *****How about "sorgum" ? Win in MN > > -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- -- Grace Evans mnjs13a@prodigy.com

We're thinking about how hard our foremothers had it on "warshday." I'm thinking that it must have been wonderful to know that on Monday you could spend your day doing the laundry with no interruptions. These days, I'm lucky if I can find five minutes to sort the laundry and throw it in the "warsher" before another catastrophe. Usually, on my "warsh day," I have to take a car to be serviced or prepare for a trip out of town or pick up someone at the airport or wire money to a kid that overspent or have the house in "model home" condition for the realtor to show to prospective buyers, etc. All of you modern housewives/mothers/employees know what I mean. It is wonderful to think about a time when our grandmothers had to work so hard on "warsh day" without the luxury of a modern washer and dryer and indoor running water which makes our work so easy; but they had the luxury of a full day to do this chore with no other complications! I know I'm rambling off of the subject, but just wanted to put "the good old days into perspective." Brenda