Here is a GREEN TOMATO PIE recipe from Edna Eby Heller's book. Never tried it but hope it's good. Let me know how it turns out. :-D Pastry for 2-crust pie 2 tablespoons flour green tomatoes, about 1/2 cup brown sugar 2 pounds 1/2 cup molasses or Blue 1/4 teaspoon salt Karo syrup 1 teaspoon cinnamon 2 tablespoons butter 1/4 teaspoon ginger Roll out 1/2 of pastry on floured board and line piepan. Slice unpeeled green tomatoes in 1/4 - inch slices and measure 3 cups. Arrange slices in pastry shell and season with salt and spices. Sprinkle flour over tomatoes and cover with brown sugar and molasses. Dot with butter and cover with top crust. Bake 10 minutes at 425 degrees and then 35 minutes more at 350 degrees. Makes a 9-inch pie. Judy

Does anyone recognize this KLINGENSMITH?? RICH & KATHY CLEVELAND wrote: > > I am searching for my mother-in-laws family. Her mothers name was Pearl > (Minnie?) Klinginsmith and she came from or lived in Kirksville. She > married Charles Perry Bougher, lived in Iowa, and they had 10 children. > My mother-inlaw was the youngest child, Ella Margaret Bougher b. > 9/24/1922 d. 4/1/1996. Anyone with any information please contact me at: > > rclevela@pacbell.net > THANK YOU, > KATHY

Hi I'm working the Sager and also Sheetz/Sheets married in the McDermott family. Both family lived in the Shenandoah Valley in Virginia. The counties are Shenandoah, Frederick, Warren, Clark Co. Va. Also I live not far from this area. I have Anna Sager mrd Joseph Fauley/fawlwy/Foley d/o Adam Sager and Anna Barb. qalso I have email for someone else working sager in this area and then moved to Trumbull co. Oh. Esther Clark McDermott

Susanna SEIVERLING/SIVERLING 1827-1882 m. Wm. KOCH 1798-1861. They lived in Brecknock twp. of Berks County. Susanna may be a dau of George Siverling of the Brecknock/Caernarvon twps area of Berks County. In 1870 after Wm's death Henry HOFFMAN age 19 was living in the home and working as a farm laborer. He is possibly a nephew. SIVERLING is not a common name and I have only found a George SEIVERLING abt 1783 as a poosible father. They likely belonged to the Reformed Church. Looking for any other SIVERLING references. Thanks rod

This is what Penna-Dutch is all about. This is our heritage. It goes hand and hand with Genealogy. We want to share these wonderful history with our grandchildren, Genealogy is not just names and dates. Sylvia

Am the 'new kid on the block' in regards PENNA-DUTCH mailing list. Roots are in Schuylkill and Berks Counties but now living in Westmoreland County. Have been working on family genealogy and history for a number of years and would appreciate corresponding with anyone with Heffner/Haffner/Hefner/Heavener/ etc. background. Supposedly my forebears arrived Aug 28, 1733 aboard the ship 'Hope' at the port of Philadelphia. Please see my surname list on my homepage in my signature statement. -- Ken Heffner, Lower Burrell, Pa. abt 20 miles NE of Pittsburgh. kenheff@nb.net http://www.nb.net/~kenheff

Dear Rod, Here's the recipe Audrey Risser posted last year. Green Tomato Pie 4 c sliced green tomatoes 1 1/2 c brown sugar (dark or light, doesn't matter) 1/4 c flour 1 tsp cinnamon 1/8 tsp ginger 1/8 tsp nutmeg 1/8 tsp salt 2 tbsp lemon juice 2 tbsp margarine or butter Mix all the spices together, doesn't hurt to add a little more of those spices! Mix tomatoes, brown sugar, and flour together and add lemon juice. Then add the spice mixture to the tomato mixture and blend together. Pour into unbaked pie crust, top with another crust and dab margarine or butter on the top. Bake at 450 for 10-15 minutes and then at 350 for about 40 minutes. Remember this is an old recipe and all PA Dutch cooks don't really measure things all that well! (Reposted by me!) vee > > Does anyone have the green tomato pie recipe? If so emailing it to me would > be a big help for our green tomatoes. Frost is on the way. > > rod

Does anyone have the green tomato pie recipe? If so emailing it to me would be a big help for our green tomatoes. Frost is on the way. rod

I'm working of the Acker family history. My primary line Phillip Jacob Acker and his brother entered Philadelphia on the 25th of Sept 1732 aboard the Loyal Judith (Robt Turpin, Master). They were late of Sparsbach(sp)(near Strassbourg) Germany, (France) Alsace Lorrane. Heinrich father of about 13 children went to Bucks Co. (Harleysville area) farming near Hilltown. He was one of the listed founders of Kellers Church (1752). I have information on some his decendents but have not worked hard at it. > Phillip was the father of abt 11 setteled in Northampton (now Lehigh) > Co. near Foglesville. He was one of the founding fathers of Ziegel Ch > outside of Foglesville. Later he moved to Macungie twp searching for better water for farming. I have a bit more information of Phillip and his prodgeny (Ziegel Ch records were great) and I worked harder on this > line, although there are many holes. Another Acker, Conrad setteled in > Chester County, I have no direct connection between Conrad and > Phillip/Heinrich. Conrads decendents later settled in Lancaster Co. > Phillips moved west (northern tier of PA and to Ohio) South thru York Co to VA, NC and SW, and North to NY and Canada (although I have not traced a direct line north) The core of the family stayed in the Lehigh, Northampton, Berks Co areas. Needless to say I have records lots of records. (And over 4,000 individuals) > > If you think we can work together I'd like to see if we can help one > another. > > Earl Acker, Landisville, Lancaster Co.

Having been taught at an early age by my mother, the English teacher, that the use of the term "warsh" was a sign of linguistic ignorance surpassed only by saying "ICE cream" instead of "ice CREAM" (go figure), I'm delighted to see a cultural history topic come up on this list that she would let me talk about without having my mouth warshed out with soap. Timothy Shipe wrote: > The most distinctive thing about this grace was the way we said it, > everyone at the table speaking in unison, with no one in particular leading > the prayer. Does anyone else remember saying grace in this way? Could it > be a custom of Pennsylvania Dutch origin? My family said grace in this way, too: everyone in unison, no one leading. The grace itself was another two-line rhyming grace ("Come, Lord Jesus, be our guest/And let Thy gifts to us be blessed," kind of a tongue-twister when you're five years old). This didn't come from PD ancestors, though, but from my father, whose grandparents had immigrated DEU > IL in the late 1880s or 1890s. I don't know whether my father learned it at home (where English only was spoken, BTW--this was after WWI) or at church (Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, a denomination founded by 1840s-50s emigrants from Prussia to the Great Lakes states, so not by the PD). Perhaps, rather than being specifically PD, it's a Lutheran custom? Or a Midwestern one? Felicia Kruse IA > DEU > PA > OH (nothing like doing things backwards) fkruse@waonline.com

I have lots of Jacob Gladfelters. Don

Ed, I wasn't the one who was interested but I am !!! What do you have? Don

I am looking for the parents of Anna E. Gotshall, b. 16 Sep 1835 in Pennsylvania; d. 19 Oct 1885 in Ramona, Marion, Kansas. She married Jacob B Shirk 30 Sep 1861 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois. Jacob and Annie were of the Brethren faith. She was listed as a Mantau (Dress) maker on the 1860 Carroll County, Illinois census, living in the household of Harvey G. Fisher, her brother-in-law. Harvey had married her sister Mary M. Gotshall. There was also a younger brother George Gotshall listed in the household. Thanks! Don

Our family always said Grace in unison, also. And I was quite pleased a few years back when I visited my aunts in Steelton, Dauphin Co., that the same Grace is said today around the table with the younger generations saying the same words I did as a young child. It was: God is great and God is good. We thank Thee for this food. By His hand we must be fed. Give us Lord our daily bread. I can remember two times when my cousin gave me the giggles when we said Grace. One time she said, "God is grape!!" And the other time she started right out with "Now I lay me down to sleep!!" Is the custom Lutheran-based? I don't know, but our family certainly was Lutheran-based. And do you know what? Even though my meals are solitary ones now, there is no way I can sit down to the table without saying the same words (in UNISON???) :-D vee

I am looking for information on March Creek German Brethren Church cemetery Black Horse Tavern Road, Highland Township Adams Co. Pennsylvania and the church if it is still there. My 3rd g grandmother Sarah STUDEBAKER BOBLITZ b. 1800 d. 1873 is buried in the cemetery. I will be visiting Pennsylvania for two weeks this fall working on my family history. Could someone give me any help in researching the Brethren/Dunkard faith while I am in Adams Co. Pa. Families I am working on are TAWNEY, BOBLITZ, HORNBERGER, STUDEBAKER. I am waiting at this time for the three volumes of STUDEBAKER to arrive. Thank You Kathie

I too lived in Germany three years, from 1953 - 1956 and hanging the bedding out was one of the first unfamiliar customs I noticed when I arrived there. It's great to hear all these stories and remember "the good old days"!!! Buren At 09:33 AM 9/6/97 -0400, Maritool@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 97-09-04 16:10:43 EDT, you write: > ><< We had one > neighbor who EVERY morning hung all the bed linens from the 2nd story > window to air until after lunch. Barb >> > >When I lived in Germany inthe '60's, I noticed every German hausfrau did >this. MarilynT >Researching: CARPENTER/ZIMMERMAN, EKCERT, ESHELMAN, GROFF, HERR, JACK(s), >KRICK, LINSENBIGLER, STOUDEN, SPOHN, STEFFY, WAGGONER. > >

I am a college student in the education program at Lancaster Bible college and I am doing a unit on Pennsylvania History for a third grade classroom and would love any information you could send me. My address is: Amy M. Patton LBC Box #153 901 eden Road Lancaster, PA 17601

I am descended from Abrahm KURTZ and would be interested in corresponding with and sharing information with anyone who might be connected to these people. Abraham KURTZ immigrated on the ship Robert and Alice in 1740 with his wife Margaret Bollinger and two sons. (Christian and Jacob) His wife died in 1746 and he returned to Germany and married Barbara Bollinger, Margaret's sister. They returned 1749 on the ship Phoenix. They settled in Lancaster Co. Abraham and Margaret had 10 children. (Abraham, Barbara, John, Peter, Catharine, Joseph, Maria, David, Samuel and Elizabeth) Pat Kratz West Des Moines, IA

In a message dated 97-09-04 16:10:43 EDT, you write: << We had one neighbor who EVERY morning hung all the bed linens from the 2nd story window to air until after lunch. Barb >> When I lived in Germany inthe '60's, I noticed every German hausfrau did this. MarilynT Researching: CARPENTER/ZIMMERMAN, EKCERT, ESHELMAN, GROFF, HERR, JACK(s), KRICK, LINSENBIGLER, STOUDEN, SPOHN, STEFFY, WAGGONER.