Hello! I am searching more info for Barbara Garver, daughter of Hans and Elizabeth Garver. Barbara married Henry Newcomer. Their son, Samuel Newcomer, married Elizabeth Huffer. ALLOF WASHINGTON COUNTY< MD Thansk Jason

Would anyone happen to know if the little-known 1783 PA Census is located anywhere other than the PA State Archives in Harrisburg? Thanks so much. Hazel Pflueger

About 10 days ago there were two recipies given for Green Tomato Pie. I printed them, but lost the pages somewhere between my computer and my kitchen. Help! Please resend. The frost is almost here and it will mean the end of the green tomatoes. Nancy

Hello! I am searching for Barbara Stauffer or Stover's parents. She was born in 1756 in Pennsylvania and died in 1848 in Washinton County, Maryland. She married Isaac Hershey, son of Andrew and Maria (Schnabley) Hershey. Thank you. Jason Coffman

Researching this family line to connect to Alexander Mentch b December 17, 1796 Berks Co ? d October 16, 1877 in Cherryhill Twp., PA. I have Alexander's children and descendants since I am married to one of them. We do not know anything about his parents, brothers & sisters, and whether he might have descended from Adam Mensch b June 174_ , or Abraham b Feb 26, 1750 who came to Berks Co., from Germany with their brother Johannes Christian Mensch and wife Sabina. Any Mensch information would be greatly appreciated. Chuck Bollinger

Looking for links/researchers of subject surname. The LYNS/REES graveyard is just north of the intersection of Mt. Airy and Rawlinsville Roads in Providence twp. of Lancaster County. Transcriptions of gravestone inscriptions(which I do noy have) apparently exist at LMHS. I have no LYNS etc on my tree yet but suspect that this old graveyard contains a Rees ancestor(s) married ionto the LYNS/LINES/LYONS family. I know nothing about this family other than the name of this graveyard. any info appreciated. thanks rod

Looking for info about Hiram William Pettit, born 1852. Lived and is buried in Berwick. email me at budpettit@erols.com

WATSON'S ANNALS OF PHILADELPHIA vol 2 published 1857 Mr. Jacob Miller, when aged about 82, told me of his observations in Germantown, when a youth of sixteen. He lived, while the British were in Germantown, in the house now of George W. Toland; then the house of George Miller,* a captain in the American army. *[He afterwards became a colonel, and distinguished himself with the Germantown militia at Princeton.] The first night of the arrival of the British army, upwards of a dozen of the British officers made their quarters in that house. While they were all present in one large room, they sent for him, and questioned him about his knowledge of many of the localities. In such inquiries, they always called every thing American "rebel"; and upon his saying he did not know what they meant to ask by the word rebel, some were rough, and charged him with wilful ignorance, and some others justified him, and said he was not obliged to acknowledge the term, even if he understood it. His mother was soon employed to be their baker, and daily after she received their flour, and made it into bread, pound for pound, leaving her a good supply of gain, for the use of her family. He did not dare to go much abroad among the encampments, unless with some of the retainers of the army, for fear they might arrest him; therefore did not see much of their doings. The boys and girls of the place, he believes, kept very close house; he had heard of no violence or insult to any of the inhabitants. Ming, Lightfoot, and Heath made themselves most useful to the British, and were afterwards regarded, and treated by ourselves, as tories; they were once afterwards paraded through the town to disgrace them, and were threatened with tar and feathers. The most outrageous conduct was committed on the person and property of Christopher Sower, a worthy, innocent, good man, on account of his son Christopher, who had taken the enemies' side. When the battle began, he and several others went across the steet to Lorain's old house, and secured themselves in the cellar, from the door of which they peeped out and saw the cannon balls making their streaks through the air, towards Toland's woods; they also heard the whistling of many musket balls. The British cavalry were hutted on the lots of Mehl's and Royal's present open fields. Just as the battle began, and when he was going to the cellar, before mentioned, he saw Gen. Howe ride up with several officers, from his quarters at Logan's house, (the owner, Wm. Logan, being then deceased), and stopping near Lorain's house, he heard General Howe say, quite loud, "My God, what shall we do? we are certainly surrounded !" They then rode onward up the town. After a while he left the cellar and ventured abroad; finding the firing had ceased, and seeing wounded men, on foot, coming there as to the rear, he ventured to go towards Chew's house, by the back lots, the fences being all cut down. He saw many dead, and a soldier stripping an officer who had a fine watch. When he got near there, he found himself unexpectedly near some renewed firing---one of the balls went through the porch where he was standing---he retreated rapidly homeward. When again at home, he found a gathering at his neighbour Mechlin's house, (the present Wagner's), and went in, where he found, in the large stable in the yard, a British hospital, where surgeons were beginning to arrange long tables, made of the doors, on which to lay men, (friends and foes,) for amputation.They soon pressed him to assist them, but he not liking the employ, soon managed to get off and hide himself. He knows that there was a great deal of fighting on his present lot in Danenhower's lane; and also on Armstrong's hill, by the mill. There, he and other boys have collected several hatfuls of leaden bullets; even to this day, he finds bullets and flints in his lot, whenever he ploughs the place. He supposes he gathered as many as a bushel of them, not long after the battle, getting usually a hatful at any one time of searching; and these he used to hide in post holes for the time. He used to steal to Philadelphia occasionally, to get things wanted for the family. His way was to watch occasions when parties of the British came out, then to follow closely in their rear; and afterwards to get home by by-paths and back roads, and always keeping a good look out to shun Capt. Allen M'Lane, who was always on the scout, and was often seen by him and others close upon the British outposts. He has seen him pursued several times, from near his house. Dover and Howard were officers also in the same service. He saw Gen. Agnew and Col. Bird buried, in the lower burying ground, with very little parade. There was also a British officer buried there, from Ottinger's house, where he died of sickness. He saw several dead soldiers buried in Mechlin's tanyard after the battle; they were probably from the hospital there, and at Armat's house. On Taggart's ground were a great many of the British encamped in huts, made up from the fences, and overlaid with sods. On the same ground, he afterwards saw Count Pulaski's cavalry, of four hundred men, in their whitish unifom, where they made a grand display of military evolutions, in exercising in a mock battle. They were formed mostly from the prisoners of Burgoyne's army, Germans, and others. Their exercises made a deep impression on his youthful fears; for when he beheld their frequent onsets with drawn swords, he felt quite persuaded they must turn it all to earnest. One of them got killed in the onset. At one time, it was said that the British were intending to take into their service all the half grown boys they could find in the place; to avoid which, he and others, got off to a public house near Flourtown. He supposes that it was a false report. He was present, with the brother and sister of Major Witherspoon, (aid to Gen. Nash) when he was disinterred, in Philip Weaver's front lot. They had brought a coffin, and outer case, intending to take him home to Princeton, but his body was too decayed and offensive to bear such removal. He was in the same pit with six other bodies; but he was known from the rest, by the loss of part of his skull, and by being the only one wrapped in a blanket. The sister cut off a lock of his hair. What an affecting scene for relatives! The English cavalry pursued the Americans eight miles, on the Skippack road, fifteen and a half miles from Philadelphia, into Whitpaine township, as far as the Blue Bell. We have heard from an old friend, a witness now at that place, that our militia was already there when the British cavalry arrived, and wheeled about to make good their retreat and return. He describes the confusion that existed among the Americans as past the power of description; sadness, and consternation was expressed in every countenance. While the dead and dying, (which had preceded this halt at the Blue Bell), were before seen moving onward for refuge, there could be seen many anxious women and children rushing to the scene to learn the fate of their friends, and to meet, if they could, the fathers, brothers, or other relatives, who had been before sent forward for the engagement. Again and again, the American officers were seen riding or running to the front of the militia with their drawn swords, threatening, or persuading them to face about and meet the foe. But all efforts seemed to fail; and officers and men were still seen every where borne along on the retreat. They broke down fences and rushed away in confusion, as if determined no longer to hazard the chances of war in another onset. Some few, however, still held on to the moving mass of dead and wounded-- for some had died, while still in the course of their removal. Gen Nash, of North Carolina, Col. Boyd, Major White, of Philadelphia, aid to Sullivan, and another officer, who were among the wounded, were carried onward, so far, so that when they died they were all buried side by side, at the Mennonist burying ground and church in Towamensing township, a place beautifully shaded with forest trees. Their graves* there I have visited, twenty-six miles from Philadelphia. *[We have since given them a monument there.] I have learned from the sons of one De Haven, that their father assisted in carrying Gen. Nash, who was brought into his house, and then taken two miles further to his brother's house, where he died. A Mr. Godshalk, who is alive at Kulpsville, saw his internment. Major White was deemed the finest looking officer in the service---his beauty and dress had conferred on him the soubriquet of "beau White". He was an Irishman by birth, married to a London lady, and the father of the present Judge John M. White, of Woodbury, New Jersey. He had gone on, after the battle, wounded, but riding his own horse. He had reached the house of Abram Wentz, on Skippack road, where he had before been quartered. As the alarm of the pursuing army came onward, he undertook to ride six miles further, when he took a fever from his exertions, of which he died. A lady who saw him at Wentz's house, and who is still alive, has told me he came there with Gen. Furman, and that the major was gay and cheerful, and declined any bed or assistance. In the same company there was a very young officer from Virginia, (supposed to be Lieut. Smith), wounded in the shoulder, who also went onward. An old German, a soldier, has informed that four of our officers were buried side by side at Whitemarsh, (most probably non-commissioned ones.) In that neighbourhood there are still some remains of the former entrenchments. A large portion of the American army lay encamped on the Skippack road, twenty and a half miles from Philadelphia, and while there, Gen. Washington, and several of the officers, were quartered in the house of Mr. Morris---since known as the large country house and residence of the late Dr. James, of Philadelphia. Gen. Washington had also his quarters at Jacob Wampole's farm house (the father of the late Isaac Wampole, the eminent city scrivener), located near a woods, and three quarters of a mile from the aforesaid Mennonist burying ground. That family had known that the general was in the practice of retiring to pray. It occurs to me here to say a little of the state and class of people settled in this section of country. Such as are known to me of Towamensing and Franconia. They were generally German Mennonists and Tunkards. The latter have a meeting-house and a well dressed congregation, by the Indian creek; all the farms are well cultivated, and evince prosperity,--far different from what their fore-fathers could have enjoyed in their own country. Such a country as this is now, so little distant from Philadelphia, was only first settled in 1719---at the cost of but L10 [10 Pounds] for fifty acres. When first settled, several small remains of Indians still lingered about; and the name of Indian creek, given by the settlers when the first surveys were made in 1718 to J. Steel, shows their then understood vicinage and home. There I have been shown their grave ground, &c. When Heny Funk settled there in 1719, in Franconia, he was six miles northward of any neighbour, and although his place is now a mill, he then had no mill nearer than the present Mather's mill at Flourtown, (so called most probably as the earliest known place of supply), to which place the family used to send a single bag of grain on horseback. The late Gen. Cobb, who was long a member of Gen. Washington's military family during the war, has informed us of some of the habits of the chieftain. Everything was to be precise and punctual there---at the breakfast hour, the general was sure to be punctual, and then he expected to find his aids, Cobb, Hamilton, Humphreys, awaiting him. He came then dressed for the day, bringing with him the letters and despatches of the preceding day, with short memoranda of the answers to be made; also the substance of orders to be issued. After breakfast, these papers were distributed among the aids, to be put in form. Soon after, he mounted his horse to visit the troops, and expected to find on his return, before noon, all the papers prepared for his inspection and signature. There was no familiarity in his presence; it was all sobriety and business. Throughout the war it was understood in his military family that he GAVE A PART OF EVERY DAY TO PRIVATE PRAYER AND DEVOTION. Gen. Cobb, though so long closely connected with so grave a leader, was himself a man strongly disposed to enjoy a laugh; and yet he says, that in his long intercourse with him, he had only met with one officer---Col. Scammel, who had the power of affecting the risibilities of the general. Scammel was full of ludicrous anecdotes, and when dining at the general's table, was allowed to TAKE THE COMMAND, and to excite, beyond any other man, the general himself. It may afford interest to some, to learn some of the local facts incident to the management and retreat of La Fayette, at Barren Hill, where he was intended to be surprised and broken up by Gen. Gray, such as I learned them to be, from Samuel Maulmsby, a respectable Friend, dwelling then and since at Plymouth meeting house. He was at the time an active and observing boy. The whole British force arrived early in the morning at the meeting-house, in the REAR of La Fayette, and halted in the public road, remaining there about an hour and a half, seemingly perplexed and disappointed; and, as it is believed, debating between the choice of going either to Spring mill, or Madson's ford. The men seemed unwearied, but chagrined and angry. He had then an uncle---a Capt. Davis, of the Pennsylvania militia, who being then with the American army, and familiar with all the localities of the country, was much consulted and often used as a guide, &c. From him Mr. Maulmsby learned many facts concerning the retreat of La Fayette across the Schuylkill at Madson's ford. Such as that the British made their approach with all possible quiet- ness and secrecy, in the night (as before mentioned, through Germantown, &c.). They turned at Mather's mill to go on to Plymouth. At that mill lived a Capt. Stoy, who having occasion to get out of bed, chanced to see the army passing his door. He immediately ran across the fields and nigh cuts, to give La Fayette the alarm; but his breath failing him, he called up one Rudolph Bartle, who ran on to Barren hill and gave the intelligence. La Fayette immediately sent off his artillery to the other side of Schuylkill, at Madson's ford, and going himself to the same place by the way of Spring mill. There were Oneida Indians attached to his command, who took their own course, and had to swim the river. In doing this, they left behind a young prince of twelve years of age, whom they there lamented in strong cries and yells of distress, as being captured or drowned. He soon after appeared, when they all kneeled down in solemn praise and thanksgiving, to the Great Spirit, for his safety. The force of La Fayette moved on to Valley Forge to join Washington's army, then there. Mr Maulmsby told me a fact, which should be remembered, as it helps to illustrate many cases, I presume, of alleged cruelty and plunder. A party, from the force in the road, came into his mother's house under pretext of getting water. They seemed to be highlanders; these immediately ran over the house and upstairs, forcing open chests and drawers with their bayonets, and taking off what they liked. Had the matter rested there, the whole might have been deemed a common violence; but an accident showed another system. An officer came in to ask if they could spare a pair of swingle-trees, which when young Maulmsby had found, the price was asked, and none being required the officer gave him a guinea. At this time, a soldier was observed running to the house for his musket which he had forgotten, and out of this fact grew an explanation of the previous plunder. The officer forthwith entreated the widow to come out to the men to designate the depradators, assuring her the property should be restored, and the men punished before her face; he saying, they had already been threatened with death, if they attempted to plunder. Just then firing was heard at a distance, when they all hastily marched off. TO BE CONTINUED... Note: all words in capital letters are in italics in the book. Note: swingle-tree: a rod used in beating flax. Note: nigh cuts = near cuts = short cuts?

Hi, Is anyone working on the PLATTNER/BLATTNER name or LINGENFELTER/LINGENFIELD name from the Strasburg or Bart twp area in Lancaster Co. Pa Magdelena PLATTNER md Johannes LINGENFELTER May 14, 1746 New Holland, Lanc. Co. Pa. either Johannes or his son Micheal changed the name to LINGENFIELD 4 known children Michael md Rebecca SMITH 1771 Anna Catherine Magdelena may have md a REISS Daniel Does anyone know

Is there someone in the Bedford Co. PA. area that could possibly look up a marriage for me ? I need the info on marriage license of DAVID YOUNG and MARTHA ANN SOYSTER, married ca 1877-78 in Bedford Co. I am at a standstill without this info. Will someone please look this up for me ? Would not mind paying reasonable costs for copies, etc. Thanks, Fannie Johns Young yngedtn1@juno.com To discover our futures by exploring our pasts. Researching BLOUNT*, BYRD*, CASON*, FOREMAN*, HAZZARD*, MARTIN*, MERRITT*, PHILLIPS*, RAY*, REICHERT*,SOYSTER*, WHITEHURST*, WILKINS*, YOUNG*

I have misplaced a piece of archived email containing the contact info for a GRIFFITH researcher. I think it was a Florida address. If anyone remembers sending it to me may I please have it again. Thanks rod

Elizabeth GOOD b. abt 1809 m. Evan GRIFFITH b. 1790 (will proved Jun 9, 1879) They lived near Bowmansville in Brecknock twp, Berks County and had 5 children. Does anyone know the names of these children? Elizabeth (GC2244) descends from Peter GOOD(GC). thanks rod

<< co >> --------------------- Forwarded message: From: MAILER-DAEMON@aol.com (Mail Delivery Subsystem) To: WeWalk4Fun@aol.com Date: 97-09-20 07:22:43 EDT The original message was received at Sat, 20 Sep 1997 07:22:42 -0400 (EDT) from root@localhost ----- The following addresses have delivery notifications ----- PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.co (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.co... Host unknown (Name server: rootsweb.co: host not found) ----- Original message follows ----- Return-Path: WeWalk4Fun@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id HAA12386 for PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.co; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 07:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 07:22:42 -0400 (EDT) From: WeWalk4Fun@aol.com Message-ID: <970920072240_1290897984@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: PENNA-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.co Subject: Sellersville I just came across information that my anscestors came over from England and bought property from a William (I'm assuming she meant William Penn) and then called it Sellersville. I'm trying to find the history of Sellersville. Bucks county Genealogical Society doesn't have it, I spoke to Sellersville borough office and they don't have it either. I saw a Sellersville Museum listed but there has been no answer there and i have tried for the last several days, various times. I assume somewhere there has to be a history of the town, who settled it etc. I appreciate any help on this because the earliest Sellers I have is 1774. I always thought that the Sellers line was German----------one just never knows!!!!!!! Hope everyone has a great weekend and thanks for any help you can give me on this matter--------------------nancy

My most wanted Bowen is John D. (David?) Bowen born in 1859 in Wales, and married Sara Jones (born in 1860 in Wales). Sara's parents were Thomas Jones and Sara Elizabeth ____. Thomas Jones was a clergy in the Church of England. John and Sara came to the US in about 1889 with at least 2 children, Thomas Bowen (born 9/30/1878 in Cardiff/Corinth) and Hanna Bowen). Thomas married Lillia Schropp in Pinegrove PA on 6/1/1905. Their children were: Ruth Evelyn Bowen (McMullen)(1906) Paul Thomas Bowen (1908) Elizabeth Bowen (Rode) (1909) Mildred Ora Bowen (Bennett) (1911) David John Bowen (1912) William Russell Bowen (1914) Mary Alberta Bowen (Nelson) (1916) Lillian E. Bowen (Dennis) (1919) russbowen@juno.com russtyb@msn.com

Hi, This is my first attempt to send....hope I am sending to the correct place! I am researching names from Berks and surrounding counties. I grew up in Reading, so most of my ancestors settled around there. Ancestors siblings moved around the country, but luckily I don't have to go far to find mine! German, Swiss and French Huguenot names are: BARRELL/BORRELL, BRIGEL, CRING/GRING/KRING, CHRISTMAN, DERR, EARNEY/ERNIGH, FLICKINGER, FRIETAG/FRIDAY, GEHRET/GERHART/GARRET, HABERACKER, HILL, HAYNE/HEHN, HOFFMANN, KEPPLE, KUNZMANN, KUHN, KUTZ, LORAH, SCHILD, SEIDERS, URICH/URIG, WEINHOLD, WENTZEL, WUNDER and ZWEITZIG. English names are: CUTLER, FOREMAN, QUAINTANCE, SHIELDS, and BUFFINGTON. Please define Pennsylvania Dutch as my family was considered Pennsylvania Dutch when I lived there because of our PA Dutch dialect. My grandmother had such a heavy Pa Dutch accent and she was the one who had the English blood. Am I in correct mailing list? Thanks and so far I love this group, especially the history. My ancestor John Quaintance was a soldier at Germantown and his commander was Captain Morgan, so I could really relate to the article...waiting for 2nd part Jean Neumann Hopper

WATSON'S ANNALS of PHILADELPHIA Vol 2 Published in 1857 Soon after the battle, British officers came to the houses, and asked for young men to come out and bury. While they were so burying, a British soldier came and said, " Don't bury them with their faces up, and thus cast dirt in their faces, for they also `are mothers' sons'. " Very few girls were known to have formed any attachments for the enemy - a Miss Servor, and another, were the only two known to have gone away. In going into Chew's house, they noticed that the rooms were all much blackened by the smoke of their firings -- -- saw only one man who had been wounded in the house, and he was dying. One Isaac Wood, at the present John Andrews' place, on Lime Kiln road, was killed at this cellar door, while peeping out at the battle, which was near him, along side of Dr. Betton's woods. Very few accidents occurred to cattle during the fight. A cow, which belonged to John Smith's father, and which was in the field between the combatants, was bought after the fight for ten joes ( 80 dollars) ; at that time her beef would bring 50 cents a pound. They had hard fare then, and all lived on the coarsest and cheapest kind of food. A cow, killed by a bullet in Peters' stable, was cut up, and eaten willingly. The house now Duval's, (then Christopher Huber's, and once Samuel Shoemaker's, a mayor of Philadelphia,) had the floor at one time covered with army tailors, making up clothing. The shoe-makers and smiths would go to shops in squads, and use the tools for their work, in which the owners would join them, for the sake of keeping an eye on the preservation of their tools and materials. At and about the spring house of the same Duval's pace, (at the rear of his garden lot), the premises being then in the tenure of Ch. Huber, the Virginia troops became engaged. On that occasion, a soldier was shot and killed along side of WM. DOLBY, who, from that circumstance, became averse to war ; soon after left his station in the ranks, found a retreat at Thomas Livezey's, (a miller and Friend), then a very secluded place amid the wilds of the Wissahiccon. There he became fully convinced of Friends' principles, joined the society, and was afterwards a very acceptable and approved public Friend. He afterwards settled in Delaware state --often visited the yearly meetings in Philadelphia, --and at the end of forty years after the above mentioned battle, revisited the spot of his outward and inward conflict, and told the facts to Abraham Keyser, my informant, now 80 years of age. I once had a similar fact of convincement from my old friend John Baylie, who was engaged as a non-commissioned officer, a volunteer, under Wayne, at Trois rivers ; and while FEARLESSLY entering into battle, all at once, one of the men in the ranks near him, (a militia man), beginning audibly to pray for the salvation of those who might fall, he had such a conviction of HIS unpreparedness for death and eternity, that he felt himself to tremble from head to foot under the divine power---he also ejaculated prayers--resolved instantly TO KILL NO MAN--fired above his mark---became tranquil and self-possessed---went fearlessly into all danger,--and as soon as he got home, joined the Friends of Bucks county, and relinquished his pay. There was much woods on the north-east side of Beggarstown, up too Liebert's boat yard ; and along these woods were many dead and wounded. John Smith saw an American trooper driving dashingly along the poor house lane, towards Germantown, then turned off the road and hid himself and horse in a cider mill, on present John Wistar's place. Soon there came a troop in pursuit, and missed him. When Smith first left his father's house, at the befinning of the battle, to seek a refuge, he saw walking on the street two wounded British soldiers, bloody, and going to the rear. He ran to Nicetown before stopping, and there met the British coming out from the city, in a kind of half running march. In Jacob S. Wunder's lot, he saw two of our men wounded, who had lain there all night, and he took them cider to drink. They were shot in the limbs, so that they could not walk, or help themselves. The British army were covered with dust, when they first passed through Germantown ; they were at other times kept very clean. Their horses were heavy, clumsy and large. Horsemen of both armies would occasionally pass rattling through the streets of Germantown by night, and in the morning it was clearly designated of which side the horsemen were, by the English horse being so very much larger in the hoof. The Hessian cavalry were gay ponies, much decorated with leather trappings. Women coming from Philadelphia, when met by our scouts, were very rudely searched for forbidden things about their persons, and often shamefully plundered of real necessaries. A large body of Hessians were hutted in Ashmead's field, out the School lane, near the woods ; their huts were constructed of the rails from fences, set up at an angle of 45 degrees, resting on a crossbeam centre ; close and warm. Those for the officers had wicker doors, with a glass light, [window-light?] , and interwoven with plaited straw ; they had also chimneys made of grass sod. They no doubt had prepared so to pass the winter, but the battle broke up their plans. One of the Hessians afterwards became Washington's coachman. Col. Pickering, in speaking of his recollections of the battle of Germantown, says, Washington's army started the evening preceding the battle, and marched all night. In the march, Gen. Washington followed Sullivan's column, and when the battle began, said to Col. Pickering, "Go ahead, and say that I am afraid he is throwing away his ammunition, and to try to reserve himself for a more general action." The colonel then passed Chew's house without seeing any demonstrations of fight there ; and he thinks the unseen troops therein were then barricading the premises. He overtook Gen. Sullivan three or four hundred yards beyond that house, and when returning, saw for the first time, that they were firing from that house across his road. He soon rejoined Gen. Washington, with his officers, at Billmeyer's house. A flag was sent forthwith to the house to summon their surrender, which Lieut. Smith, of Virginia, volunteered to carry, and got shot as he was advancing, and afterwards died fom the wound. Sullivan's division, therefore, was NEVER DELAYED by the force in the house. Gen. Green's column on the left did not get into action till three quarters of an hour later than those on the right, because of the greater circuit which they had to make ; whereas, those on the main street, went more direcly to the point of atack. In Col. Pickering's opinion, Judge Johnson's "Life of Greene" has given erroneous statements respecting Gen. Washington's hesitance to pass Chew's house ; and he distinctly says, that only Gen. Knox could have been present to obtrude any advice in that matter ; also, the rest of the general officers were in their places, with their commands. The first of the retreating began for WANT OF MORE AMMUNITION, they having exhausted it, as the commander-in-chief had before apprehended. The boys of Germantown made play-work of the war, making themselves three forts (upper, middle, and lower) , along the town. They had regular embankments, and fought with stones, under a show of wooden guns. On one occasion, an American officer, in passing, called out, "Who commands there?" and they called out his own name, "Proctor !" An aged gentleman, who has been a contributor of many of the facts of Germantown, and to whom I have submitted the perusal of the preceding pages, has commended them for their accuracy, and has furnished some additional illustrations, which I have added, viz. : Christopher Ludwick, the baker-general, usually bore, and received the appellation of GENERAL. He once owned the plantation, now belonging to John Haines. He lived many years in a very independent manner, in the house next Mrs. Sarah Johnson. He was of a very social cast, talking freely along the street with all he met, and in so loud and strong a voice, as every where to announce his vicinity; --so much so, that it was usual in families, in doors, to say, "There goes the general !" The frankness which characterized him, encouraged the woman, who became his second wife, to say to him, in meeting him in the street, that as she felt concerned for his loneliness as a widower, she would offer herself to him for a companion, in case he thought it might conduce to their mutual happiness. He took it, as he said, into a short consideration, and they became man and wufe ; she being a good wife, and both of them a happy couple, in the opinion of all ! He had but one eye. My informant has seen many of the brotherhood of Ephrata, passing through Germantown, following in Indian file, all dressed alike, AND ALL THEIR CLOTHES, FROM HEAD TO FOOT, WAS WITHOUT COLOUR ! To be continued

Hi folks, I am looking for someone with "tombstone expertise". I recently found the grave of one of my 5th great grandfathers. The tombstone is over 200 years old and the exciting thing is the man died at age 109 years, 6 months and 21 days....pretty good for 1792. But the large tombstone has patches of what I think is "lichen". It is gray in color but when you scratch at it there is green underneath. Can anyone tell me the proper way to clean this stone. I want to help preserve this historic stone but I don't want to damage it by doing the wrong thing. Would appreciate advise from any "tombstone experts" out there. Many thanks. Marion Bale JABandMcB@aol.com

Hi Jean - you did just fine!! A few of your surnames can be found on the Egypt Church Records page (part of the Lehigh Co PA GenWeb pages), I hope they are useful!!: <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/3955/lehegypt.htm> (it's a large document in chronological order, so use your "find" option from the browser menu!) For your KEPPLE, check various spellings such as GIPPLE and the like - you will also find them around Dauphin/Cumberland Cos PA in the late 1700's. Good luck on your research!! -Linnea >Hi, > This is my first attempt to send....hope I am sending to the correct place! >I am researching names from Berks and surrounding counties. I grew up in >Reading, so most of my ancestors settled around there. Ancestors siblings > moved around the country, but luckily I don't have to go far to find mine! > >German, Swiss and French Huguenot names are: > >BARRELL/BORRELL, BRIGEL, CRING/GRING/KRING, CHRISTMAN, DERR, > EARNEY/ERNIGH, FLICKINGER, FRIETAG/FRIDAY, GEHRET/GERHART/GARRET, > HABERACKER, HILL, HAYNE/HEHN, HOFFMANN, KEPPLE, KUNZMANN, KUHN, KUTZ, > LORAH, SCHILD, SEIDERS, URICH/URIG, WEINHOLD, WENTZEL, WUNDER and >ZWEITZIG. > >English names are: > >CUTLER, FOREMAN, QUAINTANCE, SHIELDS, and BUFFINGTON. > >Please define Pennsylvania Dutch as my family was considered Pennsylvania >Dutch when I lived there because of our PA Dutch dialect. My grandmother had >such a heavy Pa Dutch accent and she was the one who had the English blood. >Am I in correct mailing list? >Thanks and so far I love this group, especially the history. My ancestor >John Quaintance was a soldier at Germantown and his commander was Captain >Morgan, so I could really relate to the article...waiting for 2nd part > Jean Neumann Hopper Linnea Travis Miller - Annville PA ltmiller@postoffice.ptd.net <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9263>

Hi group - Is anyone researching Rev Stephen Batchelder from England? c1570. I'm interested in any info about him. Thank you, Cheri Lee McElroy cmcelroy@mexia.com http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/2840

Is anyone researching Providence/Martic twp. SNYDERS? Supposed to be several generations of gunsmiths. Jacob 1824, John 1778, Henry, Adam etc. I'm seeking more information on the descendants and branches. Any help or resource direction would be appreciated. thanks rod