We are seeking the parents and/or siblings of Peter HOCK/HAWK/ HOKE b c1811 PA m Catherine DYSINGER b 10 Oct 1813 PA d 14 Oct 1890 Wyanet IL ch: =Solomon F=, Sarah, Barbara, Joseph, Theophilus T, George P, James, Henry H and Mary Catherine. Moved JuanitaCo PA to BureauCo IL around 1851. . Any information will be appreciated. Ken //////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ //////////////////// OUR SURNAMES ARE \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ////////////////// MEYER - SPANNAGEL - TIPPIE - HOCK \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ////////// KOCH - CONNELL - RICE - MOFFITT \\\\\\\\\\\ ///////////////// kenmeyer@gate.net \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ //////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

We are seeking the parents and/or siblings of Volney WALLACE (Sr.) b c1801 NY d 7 Apr 1882 Tislilwa IL m 9 Jun 1837 LaSalleCo IL Elisabeth Betsey (mnuk) HOYT b c1803 PA d 16 Apr 1883 Chicago IL ch: =Eljiva (Ella)=,Volney J, Mary Myteline, Vlados, Elizabeth and Clara Vetitia. step-ch: Yeus HOYT, Dennis HOYT and Mrs. Voveline DeFoe. LINE: Volney WALLACE > Eljiva (Ella) WALLACE > Lettie V., HOCK > Sarah Ethel TIPPIE > Kenneth Leroy MEYER. Any information gratefully appreciated. Ken //////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ //////////////////// OUR SURNAMES ARE \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ////////////////// MEYER - SPANNAGEL - TIPPIE - HOCK \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ////////// KOCH - CONNELL - RICE - MOFFITT \\\\\\\\\\\ ///////////////// kenmeyer@gate.net \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ //////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

Don, if you put them om something dark in color in the sunshine they will ripen just fine UNLESS you have refridgerated them. You cannot ripen anything once it gets to cold as it somehow changes the enzymes in the fruit or vegetable. Try putting them in a window, if not outside, if it is to cold where you are. Kathy

Hi- Can anyone help me with the parents of George NOLL and Gertrude FIEMAN of Lebanon County? According to the Klopp's Cemetery records George was born 15 Feb. 1803 and died 17 Sept. 1858; Gertrude was born 16 June 1805 and died 23 August 1856. They were married 9 Feb. 1823 by Rev William Hendel (Trinity Tulpehocken Church records) and were the parents of John, Isaac, Elizabeth, Michael, Jonathan, Catherine, Elias, Levi, Elewina, Susanna, George, and Serenus. Thanks. Any help greatly appreciated. Beryl bmiller@whidbey.com

This, does not mean mac computers however. They do not use .dat files. >From: Bruce Ludwig <bludwig@ptialaska.net> > >I switched from Reunion to Family Tree Maker a year or so ago and have been >real pleased. I have pictures and documents incorporated in the file, there's >a section for medical info, and also alot of Notes room. It can import any >file I've come across so far. For PAF you need something called an >"indiv.dat" file (I haven't done that yet). > > >Bruce Sincerely Carolyn Leverich Atkinson / email: catkinsn@ecity.net 1602 York /In replying send copy of our correspondence. Des Moines, IA 50316 Provider has occasional bouncing problems, please resend later/next day. __________________________________________________ To join the JACKSON/CLAY/OVERTON CO, TN List, email catkinsn@ecity.net with JACKSON/CLAY/OVERTON CO, TN in subject. ___________________________________________________ ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Have you visit the webpage associated with this mail list? If not go to http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html

Don, I have heard of ripening various types of fruit by putting them in a brown paper bag with a ripe banana or two. Results will probably vary depending on how close to ripe the green tomatoes are at the start of the process. Robert rjones@mediaone.net Donn Townsend wrote: > > Has anyone out there got green tomatoes to ripen by wrapping them in > newspaper. If so could you give me the details on how? I tried years ago > but it didn't work.

Has anyone out there got green tomatoes to ripen by wrapping them in newspaper. If so could you give me the details on how? I tried years ago but it didn't work. Donn ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Have you visit the webpage associated with this mail list? If not go to http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html

Hi Group, Watson's Annals , Volume 1, contains some biographies. Some are only a few lines, others 1 to 3 pages, one is 10 pages. If your ancestor is in the list below, E-mail me privately, and I will send the information to you. Evelyn John Key Edward Drinker Alice - a black woman Thomas Lloyd Norris Family Jonathan Dickinson Samuel Carpenter David LLoyd Thomas Story Edward Shippen James Logan John S. Hutton, aged 109 years Thomas Godfrey Rev. George Whitfield Bradford Family Hudson Family John Bartram Samuel Keimer Claypole Family Hannah Griffeths Lieutenant Bruluman Col. Frank Richardson Susanna Wright David I. Dove Joseph Galloway The Rev. Morgan Edwards Dusimitiere Robert Proud Charles Thomson Deborah Logan Edward Duffield Lindley Murray Benjamin West William Rush Isaac Hunt, Esq. James Pellar Malcon, F.S.A. Andrew Wallace William Butler John Fitch (10 pages -- will copy and send) William Logan James Hamilton James Pemberton ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Forgot how to SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the appropriate one word message to PENNA-DUTCH-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM

HellO! Im searching for more info on the Swingley family of Lancaster Co., PA and Frederick Co./Washington Co., MD. My ancestor George Martin Schwingel married Anna Margaretta Thomas. their son Nicholas was born in 1748 and died in 1842. He married Elisabeth. Thanks! Jase Coffman

I switched from Reunion to Family Tree Maker a year or so ago and have been real pleased. I have pictures and documents incorporated in the file, there's a section for medical info, and also alot of Notes room. It can import any file I've come across so far. For PAF you need something called an "indiv.dat" file (I haven't done that yet). Bruce At 09:59 AM 10/1/97 -0400, Barbara Walters Eberly wrote: >Rod, >Since you brought up the subject of software, I have a question. I am working up >a course to teach for the winter quarter (beginning in December). The course is >going to be about genealogical research on the web. I presume I am going to have >to start with a basic genealogy software program. I just spoke with the head of >the computer department and he said that the classroom computers are set to >automatically erase everything downloaded -- whether by disk or from the internet >-- after six hours. This means that I am going to have to find a single software >package and get permission to set it up for classroom use (I have already >received permission for this.) > >It will be necessary for the package to have import and export gedcom capability. > >Since I use PAF, it would be a good thing if it could read PAF files. >I would like to have a program where I could show people how to include pictures >and scanned documents as a part of their genealogy package. >I want a program which has aVERY good section on notes and references. >If I get to dream, I'd like to have one which also has a section on medical >genealogy. > (This has recently become a high priority as my husband is suffering from a >problem which the doctors say is probably genetic in nature. This has led us to >the conclusion that we need to get together all the medical information we can on >our families while we can. >Problem: his mother died twelve years ago. The clinic where she was treated has >informed us that they destroy all records after seven years!) > >Does anybody know of any program which has all of these features?? Most of them? > >Recommendations pro or con for any software would be welcome. > >This will be a twelve week class meeting once a week for three hours. > >I am presuming that since it will be listed as an advanced course, everyone will >be familiar with the basics of genealogical research. The class is designed to >teach these people to use the internet to further research already done. I will >be offering another course for beginners. > >Barbara > > >PennaDutch@aol.com wrote: > >> What a letdown. I just received it after weeks of backorder(customer service >> was not good). >> >> For the last 2 years I have used "Cumberland Family Tree". This was/is a free >> shareware download from America Online. The catch is it has a 45 day "free" >> lifetime. I really liked it and did buy and register a copy. (abt$59) No >> CD's etc. came with it. >> >> After using Corel's product there is no comparison. Cumberland Family Tree is >> better. Corel has many webpage creation features and "do-dads" but the >> cumberland program has better features and screens to actually view, >> manipulate, and print varietal reports on the most important thing, the data. >> >> If it is still available in the AOL software library, the free download and >> 45 day free trial is well worth the look. >> >> rod > > > > >==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== >Forgot how to SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the appropriate one word message to PENNA-DUTCH-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > <<bludwig@ptialaska.net> Researching: Pennsylvania - LUDWIG - Columbia & Northampton Counties LONG - Columbia & Northampton Counties RAMBO - Philadelphia & Beaver Counties TEDROW - Philadelphia & Beaver Counties KING - Philadelphia County CREASY - ??? Counties MIKLE - ??? Counties Ohio - LUDWIG - Allen, Hancock, Pickaway and Marion Counties FISCHER - Allen, Hancock, Shelby & ??? Counties MILLER - Hancock & ??? Counties WORTHINGTON - Hardin & ??? Counties ANDERSON - Allen, Columbiana and Hancock Counties SCHALK - Seneca County LUDWIG - Anywhere Genealogy Homepage <bold>=</bold> <<http://www.ptialaska.net/~bludwig/hometree.htm>

Rod, Since you brought up the subject of software, I have a question. I am working up a course to teach for the winter quarter (beginning in December). The course is going to be about genealogical research on the web. I presume I am going to have to start with a basic genealogy software program. I just spoke with the head of the computer department and he said that the classroom computers are set to automatically erase everything downloaded -- whether by disk or from the internet -- after six hours. This means that I am going to have to find a single software package and get permission to set it up for classroom use (I have already received permission for this.) It will be necessary for the package to have import and export gedcom capability. Since I use PAF, it would be a good thing if it could read PAF files. I would like to have a program where I could show people how to include pictures and scanned documents as a part of their genealogy package. I want a program which has aVERY good section on notes and references. If I get to dream, I'd like to have one which also has a section on medical genealogy. (This has recently become a high priority as my husband is suffering from a problem which the doctors say is probably genetic in nature. This has led us to the conclusion that we need to get together all the medical information we can on our families while we can. Problem: his mother died twelve years ago. The clinic where she was treated has informed us that they destroy all records after seven years!) Does anybody know of any program which has all of these features?? Most of them? Recommendations pro or con for any software would be welcome. This will be a twelve week class meeting once a week for three hours. I am presuming that since it will be listed as an advanced course, everyone will be familiar with the basics of genealogical research. The class is designed to teach these people to use the internet to further research already done. I will be offering another course for beginners. Barbara PennaDutch@aol.com wrote: > What a letdown. I just received it after weeks of backorder(customer service > was not good). > > For the last 2 years I have used "Cumberland Family Tree". This was/is a free > shareware download from America Online. The catch is it has a 45 day "free" > lifetime. I really liked it and did buy and register a copy. (abt$59) No > CD's etc. came with it. > > After using Corel's product there is no comparison. Cumberland Family Tree is > better. Corel has many webpage creation features and "do-dads" but the > cumberland program has better features and screens to actually view, > manipulate, and print varietal reports on the most important thing, the data. > > If it is still available in the AOL software library, the free download and > 45 day free trial is well worth the look. > > rod ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Forgot how to SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the appropriate one word message to PENNA-DUTCH-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM

WATSON'S ANNALS OF PHILADELPHIA vol. 2 Published in 1857 John Miller, Esq., a respectable gentleman and a magistrate, dwelling in Germantown, in the house now belonging to the Chanceller family, kept a diary of passing events, during the time the British occupied that place and the city of Philadelphia. He was a strong whig, and eventually lost a great deal by the continental money. From his MS. book of twenty pages, quarto, I select the following notices, to wit: Sept. 18th, 1777, he speaks of much alarm among the people from the expected approach of the British, and the apprehended capture of Philadelphia. He and his wife go to the city to consult with their children there, to settle to what places they should remove for refuge. They determine to wait a little. Sept. 19th. On a second visit to the city, found his son-in-law, Mease, and family, had, in the interval of a day, fled from their house at four o'clock in the morning, and had gone towards Trenton. He finds there, that great numbers had fled the last night and this morning. The roads were full of persons going away. Sept. 20th. He states that the roads are still full of poor people flying off from their good homes, to fall perhaps into greater danger. To-day, his wife went to the city to endeavor to save some of the furniture, left behind by her daughter. Sept. 22d. The news and reports, of to-day and yesterday, are all uncertain. They heard a cannonading up the Schuylkill; cause unknown. Sept. 23d. The alarm this morning is great. The militia are returning in great haste; tell us the British passed the Swedeford last night, and are since in full march for Germantown. From this news many fled this night. Among them was Doctor Bensall and family, which went to Horsham. He left a well furnished house and a large shop of medicines, which the enemy, as he was a known whig, destroyed or carried off. Sept. 25th. The British army entered Germantown at eleven o'clock, and encamped around them, and occasions much fear, especially from the foreign mercenaries. They burnt and destroyed all his fences, grain, potatoes, turnips, &c., and endeavoured to inveigle away some of his negroes. To his person they were complaisant, and readily gave him a safeguard to keep his effects in doors, from harm. A heavy rain fell at night. Sept. 26th. The morning was cool from the rain. General Lord Cornwallis marches into Philadelphia in great state, --- the incidents of which were inscribed in pompous language, and at much length, on the Coffee House books. Sept. 28th. He hears that his daughter's family, which had gone to Summer Seat for refuge, had to change their place, and were going to Lancaster for greater security. Her husband, Mr. Mease, was with the camp. This day, for the first time, General Howe made HIS entrance into Philadelphia, and made his call upon Lord Cornwallis, then at Richard Penn's mansion, in High street, near Sixth street. [The same afterwards Washington's residence.] Sept. 29th. The army seem all quiet --- have a fine season --- are hourly destroying the property of all within their reach. Sept. 30th. This day, and at other times, he speaks of visiting Galloway in the city for a pass, to visit his daughter, but is refused or put off. Oct. 2d. He hears the attack begun on the Fort at Mud Island. He mentions hearing, from day to day, for near TWO MONTHS, after this, the heavy cannonading continued on that fortress --- (so gallantly and long defended). It sensibly shook the ground, he says, at Germantown ! Oct. 4th. He returned to Germantown this morning from the city, and finds that a hot engagement had occured between the two armies at Germantown. His poor wife was ALONE, up two pair of stairs, when a cannon ball passed through a window very near her. Oct, 6th. Great numbers came out from the city to satisfy their curiosity respecting the battle of yesterday. After the battle, the Hessian camp is placed just by him, and makes him much dislike their presence. Oct. 7th. Several were executed for desertion and others were flogged for offences. An aid of General Knyphausen, (one Copenhouse), robbed him of a Map of Pennsylvania, and otherwise behaved unlike a gentleman. In the evening, a great number of the Highlanders were encamped up town, --- and the following morning were again moved off. Oct. 10th. He notices the army to be in great motion this morning; and it is the opinion of some, that Washington is approaching: --- others say, (so uncertain is the news ! ) that he has crossed the Delaware. Oct. 11th. He notices the first white frost. Before day light the soldiers went off to try to surprise the Americans, and by eight o'clock, A.M., returned without falling in with any of them. Oct, 17th. Orders came for all horses in Germantown and the environs to be sent to Philadelphia by eight o'clock, with their harnesses. About five hundred were so sent and appraised, but only tories received their pay ! His horse was exempted by the kindness of Sir William Erskine. At this time, his house being marked for the quarters of General Sterne, it is occupied below stairs by his aids; and next day, there came a great suite of his officers, and fixed their sentinels around the house --- filling the stables with their horses; --- but in an hour, much to his joy and comfort, came an order for their return, and to say, he would not come. Oct. 18th. Three regiments marched as high as Barren hill in quest of rebels, as they said. In the evening he heard thirteen cannons and volleys of small arms, --- which proved afterwards to be a FEU-DE-JOIE from the Americans, for the capture of Burgoyne's army. Oct. 19th. The army is in motion at day light, to march from here and not to return. By ten o'clock, they were all gone for the city. In about an hour, the American light horse appeared, and soon had some skirmishing down the road. They took three or four prisoners and some wagons. Oct. 20th. A part of General Wayne's division marched down through Germantown, and returned in the evening. He speaks of several American officers as being entertained at his house as friends, such as General Reed, Colonel Bradford, &c., and then, as returning to their camp in the afternoon. Oct 22d. A part of General Washington's army began to march by ten o'clock at night through Germantown, and continued till day-break. They formed on the heights near the city and drove in the pickets. The enemy not venturing out, the troops withdrew, as they did not wish to attack THE CITY. They hear the cannonading at the fort, and two violent shocks of explosion, shaking the earth, --- which afterwards proved to be the Augusta man-of-war blown up, &c. Nov. 10th. Several parties from our camp pass through town to forage. Several deserters from day to day from the city confirm the scarcity of bead, &c., there. The cannonade at the fort is still very heavy, and still shaking the very earth. Nov. 11th. A hard frost, and next day seems to begin the first of the winter --- snow having fallen all the preceding night. Nov. 15. The weather clear and cold. They can see from a house in Germantown, by the aid of a spy glass, two men-of-war, closely bombarding the poor little fort, which has held out nobly since the 2d October, and only yielded at the end of seven weeks. Nov. 17th. Several women of the British camp were caught last night plundering the gardens, and were carried to head-quarters, to look and feel very awkwardly. Nov 20th. Several WOMEN came from the city to look up a little provision for their families. Desolation and famine seem to threaten us. Nov. 22d. In the afternoon the British burnt the house of John Dickerson, Esq., (the same now known as J.P.Norris' house), also the tavern of the whig lady, Mrs. Nice, at the Rising Sun, and several others in that neighborhood, on the Germantown road. They also burnt the house of Jonathan Mifflin; Peale Hall, Francis' place, &c. This to their great shame ! Nov. 25th and 26th. There was much alarm in Germantown, from reports that it was the purpose of the enemy to burn this place. It was even said, that the party for this purpose was resting at the Rising Sun. In consequence of this fear, he conveyed away a trunk of valuables as far as Chestnut hill. Nov. 27th. There appeared a great and surprising northern light --- as red as blood. Dec. 4th. The enemy were much in motion --- had pressed yesterday numerous horses, wagons, &c. Dec. 5th. The whole of the enemy's force, last night and this morning, passed through Germantown on their way to surprise General Washinton at Whitemarsh. They did much damage as they went --- wantonly burning and destroying houses and property in the night time. At ten o'clock, A.M., was heard a heavy firing begun on Chestnut hill, and lasting for two or three hours. They returned on the 8th instant. Dec. 6th. The enemy and our light horse place us in much danger, as they patrol our streets alternately. Dec. 10th. He finds many of the inhabitants of the town deploring their losses. Several had sent their goods for safety to Chestnut hill --- where the enemy took some and burnt the rest. He, however, found that his trunk, which had been left at Mr. Hush's house, had escaped the pillage, although the house itself had lost much, while occupied as the temporary quarters of General Howe and his attendants. [This house was, since, Lentz's house, at the fork of the road]. When they returned, the night of the 7th, down the Old York road, they spared neither friends nor foes, but burnt and robbed all along the road. They carried with them about forty loads of wounded. Mrs. Bush was so frightened by the violence of some towards her son, Dr. Bush, then a wounded officer in bed, in threatening to stab him, &c., that she miscarried with HER TWENTIETH child, and was interred at Philadelphia, on the 21st of December. Dec. 20th. The navigation at Philadelphia was stopped for ten or twelve days by the ice. In January, 1778, the weather being severely cold, the British army goes into winter quarters --- often sending out foraging parties to rob the country around, and on market days to protect the country people bringing them produce. The 19th of May, a large detachment of British marched up the Old York road; and next day a second party came through Germantown, and had a skirmish. They returned about five o'clock, P.M. in some haste, with several wagons of dead and wounded.. The Indians killed seven British horsemen on the banks of the Schuylkill. May 28th. A large detachment of the enemy came up and returned, without permission to do any harm. June 3d. The British army came up and went through the town by break of day, and returned by nine o'clock, A.M. They rob gardens and steal fowls, as they pass along. June 6th. They came up again in force and returned by nine o'clock, A.M. --- having with them a few wounded in a skirmish. June 10th. The enemy came up again by different routes, and joined forces at Allen's lane, (now Mount Airy), and returned before nine o'clock in the morning --- effecting nothing but the plundering of gardens, &c. The English commissioners came up strongly guarded as far as Chew's house, and returned just after the above force. June 13th. The army marched up for THE LAST TIME, and got as far as Mount Airy. They returned in two hours. June 16th and 17th. They are embarking and making all preparations for a departure from Philadelphia; and on the 18th, the AMERICANS again took possession of the city. LAUS DEO ! NOTICE --- The foregoing, it will be observed, speaks more of the predatory aggressions of the enemy, than was generally complained of, by others. We give the facts as they have been told us. Such are the leading facts of the ancient town of Germantown --- first, of its antiquities, as old as Philadelphia itself; and next of its stirring incidents as a captured country, and a battle field. We conclude with a single additional recital and confirmation, to wit: Mrs. Hall, of Philadelphia, gave a short notice of the retreat of her family to Jersey --- which, like many others, was by market wagons, carts, and other rough vehicles. She went away with others in a wood flat, fully crowded, sitting in smoky cabins, or wrapped in blankets and laying on the decks. Many were thankful to get into barns and out-houses in the country on their first arrival. Those who met abroad felt an instinctive brotherhood, and all did what they could to help and accommodate each other. Some went down to Delaware and along the Chesapeake, and were again driven from their asylums in the following summer, by new alarms. When they afterwards met at their desolate homes, marvellous and amusing were the adventures recounted at the firesides. "Sir, (said a gentleman, whose name was eminent among the patriots), THESE STORIES WILL BE TOLD BY OUR CHILDREN WHEN WE ARE DEAD AND GONE !" And so they shall, --- ECCE RES FACTA ! *********************************************************************** Note...All words in capitals are italics in the book. Note...This concludes the Germantown chapter. There may be additional references, on later pages, to Germantown. The next posting will be #8 --- Historical Notices of Lancaster . ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own?

Thank you very much for the information. It is appreciated. I am trying to connect my gg-grandfather to his parents. So far with no luck. However, some very helpful people have given me useful information and when I make the connection a lot of it will most certainly fall into place. I am pretty certain they are all from the same roots. Do you know if there could be others of the same family in that area? My gg-grandfathers name was Peleg M. Rumfield. He was born in PA (I don't know where) in 1818. Later married Rachel Petit and went to Ohio. He died in Meigs Co. Ohio at the ripe old age of 44. I have a good bit of info on his descendants but I haven't been able to place him in any of the Rumfield/Rumfeld/Rumfelt families that I have found in PA. I wasn't even aware of Snyder Co. until a couple days ago, so I have hopes there is a connection there. Thanks again for your help. Dick Sommer <rosommer@primenet.com> ---------- ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Have you visit the webpage associated with this mail list? If not go to http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html

It,s nice to be able to help solve a part of the puzzle and I think I have just what you are looking for. I visited the Grubbs Church last year and also the local historical society. I made a copy of a list that was hand written by someone in 1993. The names of interest are on the list. They appear there thusly: BENJAMIN RUMFELT (no dates) ELIZABETH 5/18/1829-7/4/1869 ( no last name but is positioned on the list in the wife location) LOUISA RUMFELT 1/11/1844-6/29/1864 DAUGHTER OF ISSAC Also I made copies of pages of Chapman township tombstone record that contain: Rumfelt, Henry, died jul 17. 1879, aged 63y 4m 1d Rumfelt, Elizabeth, wife of Henry, died Jan 4 1878, aged 66y 1m 11d Rumfelt, William, son of Henry, died Jan 31, 1857, 2y 6m 26d Rumfelt, Lydia, wife of Isaac, born Oct 18, 1818;died Dec 23 1853, aged 35y 2m 5d. Other records I have confirm; Elizabeth wife of Benjamin 5/18/1829-7/4/1869 From The Story of Snyder Co. by George Franklin Dunkelberger. this church was originally known as Grubbs Church, Kruppe's Church, Bauerman's Church, or Botschaft's Church. It was founded as a union church in 1776,. You may wonder why I have this particular information. My ancestors came from the same area/church and many are buried there. My ancestors surname is Reichenbach, so when I copied pages of records I was right in the ballpark to pick up Rumfelt. Good luck, If I can help further please let me know. ticklo@usaor.net ----Original Message----- [BJK] From: Richard Olen Sommer [SMTP:rosommer@primenet.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 2:14 PM To: 'BJK' Subject: RE: Chapman Township Hi, Thanks for the reply. Grubbs Church is apparently the same church, updated name, I was looking for. My family of interest is RUMFIELD/RUMFELD/RUMFELT. Some info I got from the local FHC mentioned the church as where a Louisa Rumfelt was christened. I believe this is part of my family and am seeking additional information on her and any other Rumfelts in the area. Her father was Benjamin and his wife, I believe, was Elisabeth. If you have any other information it would certainly be appreciated. Thank you. Dick Sommer <rosommer@primenet.com> ---------- From: BJK[SMTP:ticklo@usaor.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 12:06 PM To: 'rosommer@primenet.com' Subject: Chapman Township I can't help you with the churches location, but I can tell you were to find Chapman Township. It issouthwest on Selinsgrove, bounded on the SE by the Susquehanna River, the West by state hyway 104. It contains the villages of Hoffer, Chapman, Independence Pallas and Meiserville. My family church, Grubbs Church, is in the township. ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Have you visit the webpage associated with this mail list? If not go to http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html

Hi, In light of the discussion on a list about middle names of people being the surname of their grandparents etc. I am wondering if anyone working on SNYDER/SCHNEIDER or BREWER families in Lancaster Co. Pennsylvania have these two families inter-related prior to 1840. My gr-grandfather was Amos Brewer SNEATH b. May 26, 1840 (in Squashtown) supposedly this place was in or near Mountville, Lancaster Co. Pa. His middle name has often caused me to wonder if Brewer wasn't a surname of a grandparent. His paternal grandparents were Wm and Sarah Lingenfield Sneath so it wasn't on this side of the family as I have these lines back a few generations. His mother was Rebecca SNYDER b abt 1814 Lanc. Co. no parents or info on her relatives at this point. Also would like to know exactly where Squashtown is located. Thank you. Selma Bonewald 203 Harmont Rd Waterford, Wi 53185 jbonew@setnet.net

Don't know about 1783 Pa census try looking in Pa Archives Series they have tax rolls for 1780's for all areas plus piles of good stuff for early research, Contact a librarian or historical society to locate these books . Paula P

This is Grubbs Churchyard in Chapman Township. Go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~pasnyder/cem.htm I was just there this month, recording some of my "dead relatives" as my daughter calls them. While I was relating this to a third cousins wife in Harrisburg (that I had just met!) a shocked look came across her face. Seems most of her family is buried there, and her mother is a current deaconess there! So in addition to finding a third cousin on my g-grandfather's side, I made have also found a cousin (of sorts) on my g-grandmother's side! and married to each other! The gene pool in that area was rather shallow, as the same surnames keep cropping up! Linda Stienstra jimlinda@lightspeed.net Tehachapi, California Richard Olen Sommer wrote: > > Can anyone tell me where the subject Church and County are located. There is apparently some information on my Rumfield line in the records of this church. What area of the state is this in? Does anyone have access to the records from this church? > > I would appreciate any information. > > Thank you, > > Dick Sommer <rosommer@primenet.com>

Hi Jean! From your signature on your latest PD post I would like to know more about your KEPPLE. I have bumped into variations of GOETTEL, KETTLE, KEPPLE, KIPPLE etc in my Dauphin Co PA research on the STROH family and am wondering if you might have a marriage into my family in the 1700's. What I have is a Mary Elisabeth GOETTEL (1748-1795) who married Johann Michael Stroh in 1767 - they lived in Jonestown, Lebanon Co PA. Also a Anna Maria Goettel who married Leonard Stroh. Leonard & wife were from northern (now) Dauphin Co PA and moved to Wythe Co VA before 1790. The GOETTEL girl's father was Peter. I also have a copy of a Dauphin Co deed mentioning "whereas Joseph Straw late of the township of Middle Paxton in the County of Dauphin before his death made his testament and last will in writing. Wherein he did devise his plantation in Fishing Creek Valley in the township and county aforesaid unto his son John Straw and to his son in law John Kipple." Jos Straw's will is dated 4th day of June AD 1824 and this deed is dated 19 October 1830. Just wondering if this ties in to your (or anyone else's) family. Thanks! -Linnea Linnea Travis Miller - Annville PA ltmiller@postoffice.ptd.net <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9263>

I was a young Missouri farm girl. We lived a distance from town...my mother couldn't drive, so the days got long. I was bored and wanted some excitement and expresssed this to my mother... Mother knew I loved to read, so when a magazine salesman came by she purchased a subscription to the Girl Scout magazine, The American Girl.. (believe that was the name)... Every issue was read from cover to cover... but one issue was the best of all, a story of a young farm girl (like myself) who found an old family cemetery on her family farm... She began to ask questions, read old newspapers, and researched the family any way she could... found descendants that lived near.. .and so began her quest... or the GENEALOGY bug!!... I loved mysteries (still do) and found solving mysteries to be challenging..... I read every Nancy Drew mystery available. Here I was living in the community of my forebears, wonderful!! Some of my forebears arrived in Missouri ca. 1800, w/ Daniel Boone...before the Louisiana Purchase; and before Missouri became a state... so why not??? And so my sojourn has not ended... over 30 years... Now I'm working my husband's line... the SWANGERs/SCHWANGERs and the MAY's.. all from Berk Co and surrounding counties of PA... A good time to announce the SCHWANGER Family Gathering which will be held Oct 18/19 in Harrisburg, with a side trip to Berks Co... If you connect or are interested in the gathering, please send me a note: EllieSS@aol.com

In regards to anything prior to 1790... try the CD Roms with that title...good info there; many tax records and indentured servant records, all of which give clues to location of families. Per book, "The Source", c. 1984, p. 117 - State Censuses... Pennsylvania: ----Dates: 1693, 1749, 1763-1807, 1769, 1776---- Comments: Possibly 1760. Philadelphia only; see William and Mary Quarterly, 3rd series, 30 (1973): 236. 1763-1807. Septennial censuses of military -age men taken by the assessors. Originals often found with tax rolls in county records; copies sent to state archives. ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Have you visit the webpage associated with this mail list? If not go to http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html