Searching for the parents and siblings of PHILIP ROSENBERGER bn. 1819 d. Dec. 30, 1896 Armstrong Co. md. 1843 ANNA McAFOOSE bn. abt. 1821 d. May 21, 1901. I also need her parents. PHILIP had a nephew named DANIEL ROSENBERGER. He was in the 14th Pa. Cav. during the C.W. and was wounded in Va. Known children were; PETER HILL ROSENBERGER bn. 1844 d. 1897. WILLIAM J. ROSENBERGER bn. July 16, 1862. PHILIP ROSENBERGER unknown. Any help would be greatly appreciated. MARLIN GLASGOW ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Have you visited the webpage associated with this mail list? If not go to http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html

Dear all, I have begun a mailing list for those with an interest in the surname RENNER. In my research I have discovered there were 3 or 4 (could be more) of this surname who immigrated to US, all unrelated (we believe) and from 1700-1850. Hopefully, this list will be able to sort out who's RENNER is who's, and we will be able to swap the information already gathered. If you subscribe, please put RENNER SUBSCRIPTION in the subject line. Sincerely, Janet Davis Phone Free Phone Number: 68640 Renner's of Frederick Co., MD & Collateral Lines http://www.innova.net/~goob/genealogy.html Owner of Renner Mailing List contact: goob@innova.net your subscription will start within 24 hours ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own?

Looking for any information on John Wirt(Wirth) and Harriet Hoffman, married July4, 1843 at Falkner Swamp Lutheran Church, New Hanover Twn, Montgomery Co. Pa. I am looking for where in Penn they were born, where they lived after they married until they moved to Michigan in 1854. Susan Wirth Carlson ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== New? Looking for a quick connection? Visit the surnames list associated with this mail list at http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pdlsurnames.html

I am desperately searching for the parents and siblings of my great grandfather Edwin or Edward H Hartzell - born somewhere in Pennsylvania in July 1837. Any help will be gratefully appreciated. Nancy J ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== New? Looking for a quick connection? Visit the surnames list associated with this mail list at http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pdlsurnames.html

Hi, A couple of weeks ago, someone on either of these lists mentioned s/he had Lehigh county maps with landowners from the early 1800's drawn in on them. They were divided into townships and were available for sale. I thought I kept that post, but.......Anyone have that reference they could pass on? Thanks. Cheers Heidi in Sugar Land TX ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Abbreviations---PD=Pennsylvania Dutch, PMH=Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage magazine, MFH=Mennonite family History magazine, MRJ=Mennonite Research Journal, LMHS=Lancaster Mennonite Hist. Society. This and more list info at: http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html

Thanks to all of you who sent me Jacobs part 7 and my apology to Rod for not reading the "fine print"..... Lorena ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== New? Looking for a quick connection? Visit the surnames list associated with this mail list at http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pdlsurnames.html

PennaDutch@aol.com wrote: > > "There seemed to be but one remedy; and that was to appeal to the Board of > Trade through personal representatives. On this errand, Weiser, Scheff and > Walrath were secretly sent in 1718. Captured by pirates in Delaware Bay, they > were robbed, and Weiser thrice tied up and cruelly beaten. After a long delay > reaching England, Pastor Boehme's influence at length secured for them a > hearing before the Board; but not until they had been imprisoned for debt, > and Walrath had started for home and died. The following is the petition of > Scheff and Weiser: > > That in the year 1709, the Palatines and other Germans, being invited to come > into England about four thousand of them were sent to New York in America, of > whom about 1700 died on board, or at their landing in that Province by > unavoidable sickness. > > That before they went on board they were promised, those remaining alive > should have forty acres of land and five pounds sterling a head, besides > clothes, tools, utensils and other necessities to husbandry to be given on > their arrival in America. > > That on their landing they were quartered in tents, and divided into six > companies, having each a Captain of their own nation, with a promise of an > allowance of fifteen pounds per annum to each commander. > > That afterwards they were removed on lands belonging to Mr Livingstone, where > they erected small houses for shelter during the winter seasons. > > That in the Spring following they were ordered into the woods to make pitch > and tar, where they lived about two years; but the country not being fit to > raise any considerable quantity of naval stores, they were commanded to > build, to clear and improve the ground belonging to a private person. > > That the Indians having yielded to Her late Majesty of pious memory a small > tract of land called Schorie for the use of the Palatines, they, in fifteen > days, cleared a way of fifteen miles through the woods, and settled fifty > families therein. > > That in the following Spring the remainder of the said Palatines joined the > said families so settled therein Schorie. > > But that country being too small for their increasing families, they were > constrained to purchase some neighboring land of the Indians, for which they > were to give three hundred pieces of eight. > > And having built small houses and huts, there about one year after the said > purchase some gentleman of Albany, declared to the Palatines, that themselves > having purchased the said country of Schorie of the Governor of New York, > they would not permit them to live there, unless an agreement was also made > with those of Albany; but the Palatines having refused to enter into such an > agreement, a sheriff and some officers were sent from Albany to seize one of > their captains, who being upon his guard, the Indians were animated against > the Palatines; but these found means to appease the savages by giving them > what they would of their own substance. > > " That in the year 1717 the Governor of New York having summoned the > Palatines to appear at Albany, some of them being deputed went accordingly, > where they were told that unless they did agree with the gentlemaen of > Albany, the Governor expected an order from England to transport them to > another place, and that he would send twelve men to view their works and > improvements to appraise the same, and then to give them the value thereof in > money. > > But this not being done, the Palatines, to the number of about three > thousand, have continued to manure and sow the land, that they might not be > starved for want of corn and food. > > For which manuring the gentlemen of Albany have put in prison one man and one > woman, and will not release them, unless they have sufficient security of One > Hundred Crowns for the former. > > Now in order that the Palatines may be preserved in the Land of Schorie, > which they have purchased of the Indians, or that they may be so settled in > an adjoining tract of land, as to raise a necessary subsistence for > themselves and their families, they have sent into England three persons, one > of whom is since dead, humbly to lay their case before His Majesty, not > doubting but that in consideration of the hardships they have suffered for > want of a secure settlement, His Majesty's ministers and Councils will > compassionate those His faithful subjects. > > Who, in the first year after their arrival willingly and cheerfully sent > three hundred men to the expedition against Canada, and afterwards to the > assistance of Albany which was threatened by the French and Indians, for > which service they never received one penny, tho' they were upon the > establishment of New York or New Jersey; nor had they received one penny of > the five pounds per head promised at their going aboard from England; neither > have their commanders received anything of the allowance of fifteen pounds > per annum; and though the arms they had given them at the Canada expedition, > which were, by special order of Her late Majesty, to be left in their > possession, have been taken from them, yet they are still ready to fight > against all enemies of His Majesty and those countries, whenever there shall > be hearty endeavor for the prosperity of their generous benefactors in > England, as well as in America. > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Forgot how to SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE? 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Before I began making the posts for Jacobs and the material that preceeded it, I made a post stating that in the event some people missed a part(s), for whatever reason, that the entire series would be posted to the PDL webpage after it was posted.The entire thing and the entirety of the other serial posts I made will be on the PDL webpage next Sunday. Please do not repost segments to the entire list as I requested in the post which preceeded the series. Most of us already have it in its entirety. Either obtain it privately from a list friend or please wait until I put it on the webpage and make an announcement about it. thanks rod

Dear PA Dutch friends. I have all 16 of the Jacobs postings and am in the middle of turning them into one continuous text file. When finished, I will be glad to send the entire file to anyone who would like it, as an ASCII <.txt> file that can be opened and printed or saved with any word processor on this planet (except for the ones designed specifically for Apples and Macs). Allan E. Green

RICHNER If you have any relation to this family even if it is just one name please e-mail me. Myself and several others are attempting to put this family together. I have much info to share as do other interested researchers. Richners are known to have lived in Centre, Clearfield,and Jefferson Co.'s as well as spread through the rest of the US. Chuck Bush CFBush@aol.com storm_@gaffaneys.com ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Have you visited the webpage associated with this mail list? If not go to http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html

I seem to have parts 1, 7, 8, and 9 still not deleted. I have printed out all the rest. If anyone wants the ones I have I will be happy to send them. Mary Russell bird@scrtc.blue.net tomrussell@mindless.com Glasgow Kentucky We're Having a Beanie Babie Expo in Cave City Ky.

Once again someone has come to my rescue. I now have the Jacob 1-4, thanks to Richard Gethmann. Sandra Kerschner Green ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Abbreviations---PD=Pennsylvania Dutch, PMH=Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage magazine, MFH=Mennonite family History magazine, MRJ=Mennonite Research Journal, LMHS=Lancaster Mennonite Hist. Society. This and more list info at: http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html

Greetings: I seem to have misplaced Jacob's part 7 somewhere. Will someone please send it to me again. I promise to print it out at once and give myself at least 10 lashes with a wet noodle..... <grin> Thanks much, Lorena ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Abbreviations---PD=Pennsylvania Dutch, PMH=Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage magazine, MFH=Mennonite family History magazine, MRJ=Mennonite Research Journal, LMHS=Lancaster Mennonite Hist. Society. This and more list info at: http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html

Some how I also came up missing Jacobs parts 1-4. I would appreciate it if someone would send it to me. Thank you Sandy

PennaDutch@aol.com wrote: > > Therefore they hope from the justice of the Right Honorable Lords > Commissioners of Trade and Plantations, to whom their petition to their > excellencies the Lord Justices has been referred, that they shall be so > supported by their Lordships' report, as to be represented fit objects to be > secured in the land they now do inhabit, or in some near adjoining lands > remaining in the right of the Crown of said Province of New York. -August 2, > 1720- > > But a new difficulty arose. The far-seeing eye of Weiser had Pennsylvania in > view as the proper home of his people. He conceived the scheme of securing > from the government an exchange of their lands in New York for others on the > Swatara. To this Scheff was violently opposed, and accordingly filed his > protest with the Board, declaring any such proposition of Weiser a violation > of instructions. 'Your petitioner,' he writes, 'hearing with grief that John > Conrad Weiser has petitioned your Lordships, for obtaining a tract of land > called Chettery(Swatara), most humbly entreats your Lordships to dismiss the > said Weiser's petition as being directly contrary to our instructions and the > inclinations of our people, who earnestly desire to lead a quiet and > peaceable life, and are utterly averse to expose their tender children and > childbearing women to another transportation by water, as still remebering > the loss of most of their young children at their going from home to > America." > > " Hunter's recall to England and his appearance before the Board was an > effectual obstacle to any efforts for the confirmation of their titles to > their lands. Lands in other localities in New York were offered instead to > those willing to remove. Some accepting this offer, removed to the district > known as Stoney Arabia. Others, who, by their thrift, had accumulated means, > purchased their old homes. But still others, chiefly from Hartmansdorf and > Weisersdorf followed Weiser's advice, as the best solution of the problem, > and turned their faces southward to Pennsylvania. > > As we turn from New York to descend the Susquehanna with these pioneers, we > may interrupt the narrative for a few moments,and, going forward nearly a > quarter of a century, look upon the closing scene of the life of their > leader, as it shows whence his intrepid courage and undaunted perseverence > came. > > 'In the year 1746,' writes Henry Melchior Muhlenberg, 'my wife's grandfather, > Conrad Weiser, Sr., came to my house, having been living in the Province of > New York, since 1710, and more recently on the borders of New England.* * > * He was so much exhausted by the long and fatiguing journey at his great > age, that he was almost dead when he was brought into my house.After he had > been resting in bed for twenty-four hours and he had partaken of some > nourishment he was refreshed. Then he began in half broken accents, devoutly > to repeat the hymn: 'Schwing dich auf zu deinem Gott' etc., especially > repeating the third verse. His eyesight was very dim; his hearing was so dull > that I could not speak much with him; but as I listened to him repeating from > his heart passages of Scripture, such as: 'Surely He hath borne our griefs,' > etc., 'This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptations,' etc., 'God > was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself,'etc., I could not refrain > from tears of joy. To these he added verses concerning the personal > appropriation of Christ, as 'Come unto me all ye that labor, 'etc., 'Him that > cometh unto me I will in no wise cast out,' etc., and ' Father, I have sinned > against Heaven,' etc. ' and God be merciful to me a sinner.' He repeated also > 'Ach Vater deck all meine Suende,' the sixth stanza of the hymn, 'Wer weiss > wie nahe mir mein Ende.' > > 'O Father, cover all my sins > > With Jesus' merits, Who alone > > The pardon that I covet wins, > > And make His long-sought rest my own. > > My God, for Jesus' sake I pray, > > Thy peace may bless my dying day.' > > I had quieted everything around him, so that he might not notice the presence > of any one, in order that he might alone and in spirit hold communion with > the Omnipresent God.* * *He expressed an anxious desire for the Holy > Supper, adding that as there had been no pastors in the region where he had > been living, he had not received it for some years. It was Sunday, and some > members of our congregation had called before the hour of worship. So he made > confession of his sins, humbled himself in the presence of his Saviour, as a > poor worm, worthy of condemnation, implored grace and pardon, and asked for > the Holy Spirit, that he might lead a better life. Such an impression was > made on all present that they were melted to tears,* * * In the > meantime my father-in-law sent a wagon for him, furnished with a bed, and so > had him conveyed to his own home, fifty miles up the country. Upon leaving, > he gave us his blessing. He arrived at the house of his son, after a very > fatiguing journey, and lived yet for a short time with his Joseph in Goshen. > Then at last, he fell asleep amid the loving prayers and sighs of his > children and his childrens' children, who stood around him, his wandering in > his pilgrimage having been continued between eighty and ninety years." > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Forgot how to SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE? 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I got the old toss from the PENNA-DUTCH list today after I sent a number of inquires to the e-mail addresses on the PDL website surname list. A number of them resulted in bounced mail which gets you tossed off the list. It isn't a problem getting back on, just outdated email addresses, and there isn't probably anyway to fix it either. Chuck Bollinger

Hi all, My printer acted up when I tried to print parts 7 & 8, but I didn't realize it until I had deleted the parts. Can someone send them to me?? Thanks so much. Jane EJIsrael@aol.com

Since alot of us have missed parts of the Jacob file. Is it possible to resend it. I know I lost some of it also. Thanks, Kathleen ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own?

Oh, let me tell you! I sure have missed you guys while I have been "unsubscribed" to the list! You may recall that I unsubbed because I was overwhelmed by the flood of incoming emails, along with all of the other stuff that was going on in my life. Well, during that time I have managed to whittle my unanswered messages down to where my Inbox doesn't scare me anymore and although I promised to send a personal reply to each and every one of you who sent me such warm messages, I know that it would be around Christmas time when I would eventually do the proper job of it that I wanted. Therefore, I want to send a sincere thanks (and apology) to the following people who I never got to answer: Linda, Janice, Betty, Penny, Louise, Pat, Norma and Karen--you're all such sweethearts--Thanks!! Have I been continuing to write stories? Well, duh, whataya think? However, they are certainly not stories having to do with genealogy nor PD memories. They have to do with the story I asked Dick Gethmann post to the PD list on my behalf--"Me, Daddy, Mother and Norma." And they have to do with my subsequent feelings about having some sort of marker placed on my grave in recognition of my military service. No, I will not post the stories to the list. But I will certainly share them with anyone who would ask me personally. Their titles are, in effect, "The Marker on My Grave" [rated PG, I'm afraid--a few bitter memories there that required a few swear words], "A Flight in an SNJ Airplane" [a PLEASANT and exciting Navy memory of the 1950s], and "No Drums, No Trumpets" [and you thought Women's Lib had only BEGUN in the 1960s! Note: No bras were harmed in the telling of that story! (tee hee!)] Good to be back. What's been happening?? vee

I mistakenly deleated parts 1 thru 4 of the Jacob's series before printing them out. Could someone kindly forward these if they have them available. Thanks Mike