WERE ALL VETERANS I cant believe that Im writing this at 1:00 in the morning of November 9, 1997! Veterans day is two days away. However, after I went to bed this evening my mind wouldnt shut down with the thoughts of Veterans day on Tuesday. You see, Veterans Day has become only a token day for many of us. Yes, I guess, were reminded that the banks are closed and that in Wednesdays newspapers well read about some sort of tribute being made on a local level at the local cemetery or local statue with a bunch of old geezers standing at attention in their VFW caps or some such. But what caused me to get out of bed tonight and turn on my computer was a bit of conflicting feelings that kept going through my head. First of all, I am indeed a veteran. Nonetheless, I didnt face actual combat. And I knew that there were members of the PD list who actually served in WWII. And, undoubtedly there are more veterans on the PD list who served in Korea and in Vietnam and in the Gulf War. And I wanted to give a hearty sincere salute to my fellow veterans who have also worn the uniform of our country in the defense of our country. But, more than that, what really kept me awake tonight was the realization that most of us have gone through our own agony of our wars. Those of us over 60 remember WWII as children and remember the confusion we faced what with Pearl Harbor and rationing and air raid drills and worrying about whether Daddy or Brother or Uncle would ever come back from the war. Some of them did and some of them didnt. And then came the 50s and the Korean Conflict. It was a different war, but there were still the same worries. And then Vietnam and then the Gulf war. And whether we served in uniform during those times or whether we stayed at home as housewives or whether we were flower children or whether we protested or whether we eventually suffered unspeakable nightmares over those times, we eventually ended up, in my opinion, as VETERANS of the wars! We all lived through the awful wars of the past--some more glorious than others--but, nonetheless, they were wars and we lived through them. Therefore, we are ALL VETERANS! And, as a footnote, I guess, we might be reminded about such feelings in our lives when we stand over the graves of our ancestors where there is a marker that they served in WWI or the Spanish-American War, or the Civil War, or the War of 1812 or the Revolutionary War or the French and Indian War. Yes, they wore their uniforms and so did I, but for the majority of us there were no uniforms. Nonetheless, it didnt take a uniform to let the world know that those who didnt wear one didnt suffer their own agonies of war. vee ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== We get too soon old and too late smart!
No, you are seeing the results of the storm that hit NB. I'll have to search my database. Someone on another list sent it to me. I'll flag this to send later as I read my other messages and then try to get it to you before I mail this. There is another area to go to until the damage in NB has been repaired and transmissions can move smoothly through that area to another area. For once, I had it filed where I could find it quickly: > Since the snowstorm in Nebraska, USGENWEB has had problems. to access it > now > use the following address or addresses: > > http://www.usgenweb.org/ or http://ww.usgenweb.net/ Julie DICK744@aol.com wrote: > Hi friends, > > I am trying to find a USGenweb site for Wood County, OH. I keep > getting > a bad address message when I attempt to reach: > http://www.usgenweb.com/ > > > I thought I used it before to get a state link. > > Please send your replies to: dick744@aol.com > > TIA Dick > > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Visit other PDL listmember webpages. Links are Located > at http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pdlurl.html ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own?
"The Snyder County Pioneers" by Dr. Charles Fisher mentions Matthias Houser, who arrived from Germany aboard the "Phoenix" and took his oath of allegiance Sept. 25, 1751 at Phila. He lived in Elizabeth Twp., Lancaster Co., PA in 1773, and was first taxed in Penn Twp. 1778. He had at least 2 sons, Jacob and John. Jacob, the son, was first assessed in Penn Twp. in 1786, then was changed to Beaver Twp after its formation. By 1790 Jacob, Jr. had 4 boys and 3 girls. He died in Beaver Twp. and his will was recorded at Lewisburg, PA on March 21, 1822. The will showed he had children: John, Jacob, others--no names. (Book on Snyder Co. wills by Dr. Fisher.) Also, Dr. Fisher"s book, "Central Pennsylvania Marriages 1700-1896 lists a marriage of Jacob Houser and Susanna_______ on 1/6/1803. And, a Jacob and Eve houser had a son, Samuel, born 1787 in West Penn Twp, died 1854--buried in German Church Yard, West Penn. ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Have you visited the webpage associated with this mail list? If not go to http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html
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Looking for any information about Johann Frederick FOREPAUGH/FORBACH/VORBACH b August 13, 1761 d. September 28, 1811 m. July 9, 1786 all in Philadelphia. Married: Mary Dorothea FUCHS/FOX daughter of Johann Michael FUCHS and Salome "Sarah" LYBRAND. I'm interested in information about the FUCHS/FOX line. Dale Stewart ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ====
I connect to a MILLER (origin unknown) and SCHMID(T)s... anxious to see what comes up... and so many thanks for your time... In your postings, I found a SWANGER marriage that connects to my husband's family, our surname... !!!... EllieSS@aol.com ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ====
Does anyone know about a BOYD MILLER who lived in Greenbrier Co VA (WV) in the 1790's? This gggg grandfather m. a Mary Storey in said county? He later went to KY and then to MISSOURI... Not sure of his origins, but have reasons to believe that he may have been PENNSYLVANIA DUTCH.... Any help appreciated... EllieSS@aol.com ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Visit other PDL listmember webpages. Links are Located at http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pdlurl.html
Have had the same problem.. just "learned" the address and apparently they have changed it!! Any answers?.. EllieSS@aol.com ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own?
Hi Fellow Researchers, First, I apologize if anyone gets multiple posts of this message, but I am sending it to several lists to get the word out about our STAMPER Family web site and Stamper-L@rootsweb.com. The web site is located at the following URL; http://home.att.net/~BoKay1/index.html If anyone is interested in the surname STAMPER, please visit our site. Thanks, Kay -- Gloria "Kay" Vandiver Inman Tempe, AZ 85282 ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Have you visited the webpage associated with this mail list? If not go to http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html
Hi friends, I am trying to find a USGenweb site for Wood County, OH. I keep getting a bad address message when I attempt to reach: http://www.usgenweb.com/ I thought I used it before to get a state link. Please send your replies to: dick744@aol.com TIA Dick ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Visit other PDL listmember webpages. Links are Located at http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pdlurl.html
I am researching my Fetter line and have become stuck. Is anyone out there researching "FETTER" from Lancaster/Lebanon County, PA? I would like to share infomation please e-mail me at: LKaz@aol.com Thank you, Lisa ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Forgot how to SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the appropriate one word message to PENNA-DUTCH-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM
I recently acquire information regarding my grandmother's grandparents. My grandmother was Minerva Jane Houser Stetler. I knew her father was Henry H. Houser, b 4 Feb. 1837 in Spring Twp., Union Co., PA. He died 16 July 1901. His wife, her mother, was Catherine Specht Houser. They were married in Adamsburg, Snyder Co., PA, on 25 October 1855. I had been searching for Henry's parents for some time. They were Jacob Houser, b 8 May 1813, d 16 March 1889. His wife, Sarah Goss Houser, b 24 Oct 1816, d 16 Nov 1884. Sarah's father was George Goss; her mother was Mary Peters. Does anyone have information pertaining to the parents of Jacob Houser and where they came from? Bill Stetler San Antonio, TX ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own?
Winter: Rev. John Casper Stoever Records: 1. Salome Winter , Reading to Johannes Feistenaure, 23 Jan. 1764. Rev.Johann Andrew Krug Records. 1. Jacob Winter s/o Samuel, stepson of Joh. Kurtz to Susanna Barbra Krullin d/o Johannes, step daughter of Jacob Kayser.-1 Dec. 1765. 2. Margareth Winters, d/o Samuel dec'd. to Johannes Mauer, New Hanover s/o Andreas. - 9 Feb. 1768. Rev. Daniel Lehman:(This minister put in ending after all single female marriage names) 1. Elisabert Winterin to Wilhelm Bender - 12 May 1800. Rev. William Boos. 1. Jane Wintors to James Cammel, Union - 13 March 1781. 2.Johannes Winter, Bern to Anna Elisabeth Rieser - 19 June 1781. 3. Maria Winter to Jacob Phillips, Bern - 29 Feb. 1782. 4. Christian Winter, Bern to Elisabeth Fruehmann - 26 Sept. 1782. 5. Elisabeth Winter to Christian Bossler, Wensor(Windsor Twp.) - 30 March 1784 6. Susanna Winter to Phillipp Rieser, Bern - 27 Nov. 1785. 7. Adam Winter, Bern to Anna Maria Mettler - 26 May 1789. 8.Christian Winter, Bern to Catharine Winter - 17 June 1794. (prob. related all Winters in Bern area related.) Church Records: Christ Luthern Church, Stouchburg, Marion Twp. 1. Elisabeth Winter, d/o Frederick to Phillip Finckel - 30 Jan. 1776. 2. Christina Winter, d/o Christoph, Tulpehocken to George Jacob Holsmann - 2 May 1780. 3. John George Winter to Magdalena Creuzer, d/o Andrew - 20 Feb. 1781. 4. Christopher Winter to Catharina Geiss - 23 June 1785. 5.Margaretha Winter to Christian Schrom - 25 April 1786. 6. Magdalena Winter to Peter Leibig - 7 April 1795. 7.Jacob Winter to Anna Margaretha Vogt. End of Marriages - 1730-1800 - 2 Volumes. I will give Births 1705 to 1800 - 5 volumes but I must do Miller, Schmidt, Schneider Marriages yet & in Berks County , which are many. Sylvia ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Visit other PDL listmember webpages. Links are Located at http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pdlurl.html
These are some of the Mueller/Miller marriages in Berks County from some Minister Records. There are 15 Miller/35 Mueller/4 Muller Males and 9 Miller/32 Mueller Females, approx. 90 in all, so I will put it in Parts, This will be Part 1, Minister's Records: Rev. William Boos: 1. Valentine Mueller, Maidencreek to Elizabeth Bode - 20 Sep 1785 - Rev. Wm. Boos (this is Valentine's 3rd marriage, he is my 5th Great=Grandfather, I am descendent from a son Isaac from Valentine's 1st wife.) (Rest of Rev. Boo's will follow in Parts.) Rev. John Casper Stoever: 2. Johannes Mueller to Anna Barbara Schuppinger, Tulpehocken - 6 Dec. 1742. 3. Catharina Mueller, Tulpehocken to Sebastian Huber - 7 Feb. 1744. Rev. Adam Nicholaus Marcard: 4.. Jacob Miller , s/o Peter, Maidencreek to Esther Schaeffer, oldest d/o Nicholas, Maidencreek. Rev. Carl Friedrich Wildbahn: 5.George Miller, 3rd s/o Michael, Heidelberg to Anna Maria Schwanger, 2nd d/o Jacob, Heidelberg - 1 Nov. 1796.. 6.. Peter Miller, Reading, a Brunswicker to Sara Hinckelmaennin, Reading, widow a 2nd time - 4 April 1786. 7.Peter Miller to Maria Braun, d/o Friedrich,dec'd - 26 March 1788. 8.Isaac Miller, Caernarvon to Gertraud Miller, Carnarvon, do/ Benedict - 4 Aug. 1789. 9. Catharina Miller, a widow to Andreas Stab, Reading - 8 Aug 1786. 10. Catharine Miller, oldest d/o Phillip to Daniel Christ, youngest s/o Henrich, both of Reading - 25 April 1790. 11.Christina Miller, d/o Peter to Johann Geiger, s/o Adam, dec'd, both of Oley - 4 July 1790. 12. Peter Miller, 3rd s/o David to Christina Stubb, 3rd d/o Martin, both of Tulpehocken - 4 April 1791. 13. Catharian Miller, oldest d/o Johann to Jonathan Ringler, s/o Johannes, both of Robeson - 10 Oct. 1793. 14. John Phillip Miller, 4th s/o Christian, Montgomery Co. to Christina Hartel, 3rd d/o Heinrich, Windsor - 1 Jan. 1795. Rev. Daniel Lehman: 15. John Miller to Eva Ege - 1 Jan. 1799. Rev. Phillip Pauli: 16. Michael Mueller, Reading to Maria Christine Rapp - 11 Oct. 1795. 17. Elisabeth Mueller to Daniel Ruth, Sinking Spring - 23 Nov. 1795. 18. Adam Muller, Alsace to Catharine Hasler - 17 Jan. 1797. 19. Peter Muller, Reading to Margarethe Rexrode - 2 April 1797. 20.Johannes Mueller, Sinking Spring to Hannah Ludwig - 20 March 1798. Peter Muller, Reading to Margarethe Member - 4 June 1800. Rev. Johann Andrew Krug Records: 21.. Dewalt Mueller stepson of Friedrich Perlin to Catharine Knorr d/o Johannes- 17 Nov. 1765. 22. Catharina Mueller, Lancaster Co., 4th d/o Leonhard,dec'd. to Joh. George Haman, Muelhausen, s/o Jacob,dec'd.- 26 Dec. 1770. The rest approx. 67 Marriages yet, all Rev. Boos. Sylvia ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Abbreviations---PD=Pennsylvania Dutch, PMH=Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage magazine, MFH=Mennonite family History magazine, MRJ=Mennonite Research Journal, LMHS=Lancaster Mennonite Hist. Society. This and more list info at: http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html
It's been bothering me why an excommunicated Mennonite would wear a sign of that religious persuasion. I believe the cap denotes honor to God at all times because God is always present, not just on Sunday to meet him there. If this had been drilled into me since childhood, I couldn't reject that form of showing faith, even if I became a Lutheran. After all, I believe Lutherans also believe in God and that He is always present. Mennonites went through enough Hell in finding a place to practice religious freedom that even a "fallen away" former member couldn't reject the idea of that freedom and thus not wear that outward symbol. It hasn't been until recently that almost all churches have mandated that women cover their heads to honor Him while in his house. I would bet that the men in Vee's photograph were wearing beards, but that's another whole story. Joyce Stevens Livonia, MI ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Post your PD Holiday recipes!
Ginger Jones Wilson Some HAYMAKER in my database that were in Westmoreland County, late 18th century. Interested? Phil ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Haven't found a post of interest? Why not generate one of your own?
Please put me on your mailing list EFYeager@aol.com Edwin F.Yeager 216 Wykagyl Road Stratford, NJ 08084 ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Have you visited the webpage associated with this mail list? If not go to http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pennadutch.html
At 08:29 AM 11/8/97 -0500, you wrote: >i think you miss the point of the question. >it's not about "owning" surnames(that has never been an issue) it's about >owning my labor. > >If I spend hundreds of hours compiling them over 17 months does a former >listmember, contrary to my clear instructions, have the right to take my >work(compilations-cemetery, church records or any other- are copyright >protected, got nothing to do with ownership of the "surnames") and post them >to his website. his website is an ego-driven effort to get website awards. > >My wife who doesn't work for broderbund but is an attorney and has confirmed >a big "no". Actually it was a rhetorical question. For the benefit of the listmembers, the above is entirely correct - you do have a legal copyright on the medium you put your data into, and it has nothing to do with 'owning' surnames. As an internet professional - one of the scary, pocket-protector type geeks who keeps the whole mess running day to day - I would encourage you to get in touch with the administrators at the ISP who are hosting the material stolen from you. Explain that they are hosting a copyright violation, and you want it forcibly removed. A reputable and honest administrator will respond to your request. If the administrator does not, determine who the "upstream providor" is for the offending ISP. Complain to the upstream providor's administrators. Again, if they are reputable, they will respond to your complaint. If both these avenues fail, I encourage you to file an infringement suit in whatever court your wife or legal counsel suggests. Someone needs to put their foot down on internet copyright violators. Many have, actually, but many more need to in order to make a reasonable impression. -- Jeffrey S. Medkeff _|_ If a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, Sierra Vista, | where is the man who has so much as to Arizona | be out of danger? (T. H. Huxley) On the web at http://shutter.vet.ohio-state.edu/ ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ====
In a message dated 97-11-08 01:09:59 EST, you write: << Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 11:45:09 +0000 From: dragoona@rica.net To: PENNSYLVANIA-ROOTS-L <PENNSYLVANIA-ROOTS-L@listserv.indiana.edu> Message-ID: <34605C45.F043DF9@rica.net> Subject: FYI: Netiquette and Copyright laws Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit x-no-archive: yes Hello, FYI. Recently had a problem with someone posting a private email to a list. The man who did this insisted he had the right to do whatever he pleased with an email sent to him. This is not only considered improper by most people but according to copyright laws, illegal. Since 1989, any written material created privately and originally is considered copyrighted whether or not the person specifically says it. The writer is the sole owner and no one has the right to reprint or repost the article without permission. This applies to private emails. Just because a letter was sent to you, it does not give you any rights to it. (This is akin to receiving a magazine in the mail and then posting it on the net.) I think most people would take it as common courtesy to ask permission first. But to those who feel they own it if it was sent to them, think again. The man who did was removed from that list! There are several sites on the net where copyright laws are explained. Here is one : http://www.pitt.edu/~skvarka/education/copyright/ >> Dear Penna-Dutch Friends, I took the above advice and went to the web site noted above. It is written by a "Christopher B. Svarka" individual with no stated credentials. WHO IS CHRIS SVARKA?? He refers to the "Berne Copyright Convention" as the source of the internet standards he is referring to that occurred April 1, 1989. At the above site, it is stated that "most nations" honor the copyright standards set by the Berne Convention...but that doesn't say that they have the power to invoke any sort of legal repercussion. It seems it is a group that got together in an effort to establish worldwide "netiquette", as it has been coined. Obviously, NO convention or organization has the power to declare something illegal, whether it be copyright or anything else, for multiple countries around the world!! This first web site, which is rather short and simple to read refers you to another site as his source of information....which is authored by "Brad Templeton". So, I continued my search for "credible sources". WHO IS BRAD TEMPLETON?? This next site also refers to the Berne Copyright Convention...only. Where, who, and what was this convention? In what country? Promoted, planned, organized, supported, and authorized by whom? Neither site mentions ANYTHING about US Goverment...federal laws, etc. Patent and copyright laws are federal and therefore, violation of such is a federal offense. The second site DID include as one of their links the US Library of Congress, which is the only site I would waste my time looking at because the US government is the only regulating agency I have to be concerned with. I recently completed my bachelor's degree in business administration and some of our classes did speak extensively about patent and copyright laws (copyright simply being a "patent" on intellectual property). By everything I was taught....your intellectual property is NOT protected by copyright laws in the US unless you have gone through the procedures and red tape to apply for a copyright to protect your property! Then, your copyright time is limited...it's not forever. This is confirmed in the US Library of Congress web site, which can be viewed at: http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/ They even address "internet" copyright and that page begins as follows: U.S. Copyright Office, Library of Congress ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Copyright Internet Resources The links to other resources is being provided as a convenience and for informational purposes only. The Copyright Office bears NO responsibility for the quality of information provided through other sites and computer systems. Providing a link to these other sites should not be construed as an endorsement or approval by the Copyright Office of these organizations or of the positions they may take on various issues. The Copyright Office maintains links only to web sites in the following categories: (1) government agencies; (2) international organizations; and (3) organizations that provide performance/publishing rights clearance functions. ******************************** Please note, they are disclaiming responsibility for anything said by individuals on other web sites regarding copyrights. As I also learned in college (BTW, I am NOT a young 22 yr old...I am a middle aged single parent who went back to school), our patent and copyrights laws ONLY protect us within the boundaries of the United States. We are NOT protected in other countries by these laws as once we or our product/intellectual property enter another country, we fall under THEIR laws...not the laws of the US! So.....the Berne Copyright Convention must have been trying to establish a standard which they hoped everyone would follow, but in no way has any "legal" ramifications. Although I believe everyone's heart and intentions are in the right place when they publish such "warnings" online...I wish they would first do more extensive research and rely only on "credible" resources rather than "John Doe's" web site and what he had to sayand his "opinions"! (You know what they say about "opinions"!) It would save us all a lot of trouble regarding the "myths and hype" we have to deal with on the internet and on our mail lists! I, for one, am tired of reading about everyone's "opinions" about internet copyright laws (that don't exist) when I want to read about genealogy! I'm sorry I took up space on the mail list for this, but I really am very tired of these frequent messages about copyright and attacks on people who try to share info with the different genealogy lists in good faith. If anyone actually finds legitimate, credible, written in black and white laws or regulations administered by the United States of America regarding copyright on the internet...I would greatly appreciate knowing about it and being able to read it. Otherwise....let's get back to genealogy!! ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== Forgot how to SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE? Send the appropriate one word message to PENNA-DUTCH-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM
(1) 1. George? Bowman Occupation: Carpenter Spouse: ? Birth Place: PA Children: Peter?, John George (2) 1.1a John George Bowman* Birth Date: 1827 Birth Place: Pennsylvania Death Date: 12 Oct 1905 Death Place: Levenworth, Kansas Burial Date: 1905 Burial Place: National Military Cemetery, Levenworth, Kansas NOTES: 7 34 35 44 Occupation: Carpenter, Farmer Spouse: Rosannah (Rosa) Coppock or Coppak Birth Date: 1828 Birth Place: Ohio Death Date: 1875 Death Place: Kent, Indiana Occupation: Housewife Spouse Mother: Bula or Beula Coppock or Coppak Marriage Date: 1850 Marriage Place: ? Grant County Indiana NOTES: 35 132 Children: Serena Fredona Alonzoe Nathan Waters Philemon Rosa B. Hallie George Other spouses: Mary Fouche Catherine Hodge Dodson (2) 1.1b John George Bowman* (See above) Spouse: Mary Fouche Birth Date: 1855 Birth Place: Indiana NOTE 15 DEATH: IN OR MO Children: Louzette William H. Benjamin Other spouses: Rosannah (Rosa) Coppock or Coppak Catherine Hodge Dodson (2) 1.1c John George Bowman* (See above) Spouse: Catherine Hodge Dodson Birth Date: Aug 1858 Birth Place: MO Marriage Date: Feb 1895 Marriage Place: Cassville, MO by Rev Wesley Enos Children: Minnie Other spouses: Rosannah (Rosa) Coppock or Coppak Mary Fouche Reference Note 7 J. G. Bowman served in the Indiana 40th regiment, Co. K . He was listed on the 1850 census in Grant County, Indiana. Wife Roseanne, children: Orlanza, Wadsworth, Fredianna, Serena, Beula. Reference Note 15 This could be possibly blind Mary! She gained her eyesight as she was dying and got to see her children born after her blindness. Reference Note 34 1850 Census Grant County IN Child age 2 Thomas C. Diltz living with him. Reference Note 35 Census data 1850 indicated they had married within the year. Reference Note 44 Wounded Nov. 30, 1864 Battle of Franklin, TN. Reference Note 132 Married by Protestant Methodist Minister. Here name was listed as Dills or Diltz. They had Thomas Diltz listed on the census with them in 1850 as 2 years old. She was listed as a Coppock (maiden name) on John George's Civil War Pension application. Index , ?, spouse of (1) 1. Bowman, George? (1) 1. Bowman, John George (2) 1.1a Coppock or Coppak, Rosannah (Rosa), spouse of (2) 1.1a Fouche, Mary, spouse of (2) 1.1b Hodge Dodson, Catherine, spouse of (2) 1.1c ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== New? Looking for a quick connection? Visit the surnames list associated with this mail list at http://members.aol.com/PennaDutch/pdlsurnames.html