In a message dated 1/22/99 12:42:37 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [email protected] writes: > Please look up Hutter > Thank you, > > Gerry Evans In Rhineland Emigrants- List # Personalia from the "Amerikanischer Coorespondenr" 1826-1828, ed. by Don Yoder - p.117 -Trippler advertisement for coffee, sugar,molasses etc. Messrs. Hutter in Easton and Allentown None in other book Sylvia

In a message dated 1/22/99 3:03:09 AM !!!First Boot!!!, [email protected] writes: > ooking for any spelling similar to Fassnacht. Thanks. > > Bruce Fosnocht None in eithetr book Sylvia

Well, it has been a few weeks and I thought that it was time I repost what I am researching for the benefit of those folks that are new or that have just come back from the holidays and see if there is anyone out there that can shed some new light on things. As you can see some progress has been made as far as personal information but still no information on the children of Johann Conrad Lorsbach. Hope there is someone out there that can help add some information. Bob Descendants of Johannes Lorsbach Generation No. 1 1. JOHANNES1 LORSBACH died 1731. Notes for JOHANNES LORSBACH: He was a Minister. Child of JOHANNES LORSBACH is: 2. i. JOHANN HENRICH2 LORSBACH, b. 1678, Lampertheim, Germany; d. August 31, 1729. Generation No. 2 2. JOHANN HENRICH2 LORSBACH (JOHANNES1) was born 1678 in Lampertheim, Germany, and died August 31, 1729. He married ANNA CHRISTINA. Notes for JOHANN HENRICH LORSBACH: He was a Lutheran Parson. Two new misspellings connected to his name. LORSBACHEUR and the other is LORSBACHIO. These two spelling have been connected to Johann Hennrich ONLY. The second misspelling PASTORE JOHANNE HENRICO LORSBACHIO was used himself when he made his first entry into the church register in 1714. Children of JOHANN LORSBACH and ANNA CHRISTINA are: i. CATHERINA ELISABETH3 LORSBACH. ii. JACOBINA ALBERTINA LORSBACH. iii. ANNA CHRISTINA LORSBACH, Lampertheim, Germany, m. JOHANN LEONHARD GRASS, 1730. iv. ANNA JACOBINA LORSBACH, b. 1708. v. DORTHEA MARGRETHA LORSBACH, b. 1712. vi. JOHANNA MARIA LORSBACH, b. May 14, 1715, Lampertheim, Germany. vii. SUSANNA MARGRETHA LORSBACH, b. January 31, 1716/17, Lampertheim, Germany. viii. ANNA LOYSSA LORSBACH, b. February 20, 1717/18, Lampertheim, Germany. ix. DIED IN INFANCY LORSBACH, b. December 23, 1720, Lampertheim, Germany. x. CARL LUDWIG LORSBACH, b. December 09, 1722, Lampertheim, Germany. Notes for CARL LUDWIG LORSBACH: To avoid misunderstandings JOHANN CONRAD and CARL LUDWIG were twins. Each of the boys had his own sponsor (Johann Conrad Rettig and Carl Geisweild respectively.) xi. JOHANN CONRAD LORSBACH, b. December 09, 1722, Lampertheim, Germany; m. SUSANNA HERB, November 17, 1748, Falkner Swamp Reformed Church, Montgomery Co. PA.. Notes for JOHANN CONRAD LORSBACH: To avoid misunderstandings JOHANN CONRAD and CARL LUDWIG were twins. Each of the boys had his own sponsor (Johann Conrad Rettig and Carl Geisweild respectively.) In Sower's Newspaper 16, October 1749, the following appeared: "Johann Conrad Lorschbach, near the stone church. Old Goshengoppen." Johann Conrad acted ass a godfather 16 Sept. 1729. By that time he was 7 years old. The entry read "Johann Conrad the little son of the late parson Johann Henrich of this village....." The family that he acted as godfather for was Johann Georg and Anna Maritha Hauck. The little one was also named Johann Conrad, of course.

To assist with genealogy tracing in Eastern PA, it may help with dates, surnames, locations, military involvement, and religions of our early ancestors by looking at records of early wars. What follows are some items at the time of the American Indian raids against the white PA settlers (French-Indian War). Sources: 1. FORTS ON THE PENNSYLVANIA FRONTIER by William A. Hunter, pub. Harrisburg, 1960 by the PA Historical and Museum Commission. 2. Elliott's BLUE BOOK OF SCHUYLKILL COUNTY, Pottsville, 1916. 3. PENNSYLVANIA "Colonial Records", Vol 6 and 7. 4. SOME EARLY LINEAGES OF BERKS COUNTY, PA by Beulah Blair, 1959. Originally, the Dutch and Swedes had fortified settlements along the lower Delaware River, but beginning in 1681, when Wm. PENN was granted his charter, until 1755, the time of the enemy-instigated Indian raids of the white settlements, PA neither erected or maintained a militia. In 1747, Benjamin FRANKLIN, a non-Quaker, made an attempt by founding the "Association", an organization of volunteer militia companies - this in the threatening days of King George's War. By December of 1755, four forts were being established, all north of the Blue Mountain, under FRANKLIN's supervision. Three of these were called Fort Hamilton, Fort Norris, and Fort Allen. They were evenly spaced between the Delaware and Schuylkill Rivers, and all were in the county of Northampton. This line of defense had serious defects, the forts communicated poorly with the settled parts of the Province, the forts were poorly constructed, and these areas had lesser military significance on the frontier. About the same time, the First Troop of Light Horse, Philadelphia with many members from the Tulpehocken area of Berks Co. rode to the area of Lancaster and guarded that area while Fort Hunter was being built. This militia was known there as the Augusta Regiment, from May, 1756 until July, 1757 when it became known as the 1st. Battalion. Fort Lebanon, renamed Fort William, and Fort Swatara were evacuated in May, 1758. A new garrison was set up at Adam Reed's below Manada Gap providing a line of defense at twenty mile intervals. These were Fort Hunter, Reed's, Fort Henry, and Everett's. The frontier settlements east of the Susquehanna suffered less from Indian attacks, Berks and Lancaster counties situated more remotely from the French posts and being protected by Fort Augusta further up the Susquehanna River in the area now known as Sunbury, but then called Shamokin. In May, 1756, with the transfer of Fort Hunter to the Augusta Regiment, what had been Captain McKee's company was disbanded. After that, the Augusta Regiment plus the other companies east of the Susquehanna were known as the 1st. Battalion commanded by Lieut. Colonel WEISER of the Pennsylvania Regiment - a man then about age 60, but well-versed and respected in Indian negotiations. In Berks and Lancaster counties the 1st. Battalion included the companies of Col. WEISER and those of Capt. MORGAN, BUSSE, and SCHMITT. WEISER's company led by his son, Capt. Lieut. Samuel WEISER, was stationed normally at Reading. In December, 1756, Capt. James PATTERSON was recommissioned in this battalion, but actually served at Fort Augusta for a while before he was assigned to Fort Hunter. Col, WEISER's battalion had heavy demands made upon it to reinforce other posts. Fall, 1756, Capt, BUSSE took most of a company to Fort Augusta - serving one month. February, 1757, Capt. REYNOLDS, MORGAN, and SCHMITT with about two companies went to Cumberland Co., remaining there till April when they were sent to Fort Augusta - all these men returned home in Oct., 1757. By Nov., 1757, a company was sent to guard the party building a town for Teedyuscung at Wyoming. Also, WEISER's Batallion furnished the detachments which guarded Easton at the time of the Indian treaties of 1756-1757. Names of other PA forts were: Hydshaw's Fort, Dupui's, Oblinger's, Dietz's, Doll's, Lehigh, Trucker's Mill, Haliflax, McKee's Store, Fort Pomfret Castle, Patterson's, Fort Manada, and Dietrich Six. Some known locations: Fort Henry or Dietrich Six's - Bethel Twp., Berks, 3 miles north of Millersburg. Fort Northkill - built 1754, 2 miles east of Strausstown in Upper Tulpehocken Twp. on the Northkill which empties into the Tulpehocken Creek at Bernville. Dietrich Snyder's Fort (watch tower) - 2 miles east of Fort Northkill by the road leading from Strausstown to Pottsville. Twenty miles of countryside was visible from this tower. Any build. or crop set on fire could be seen and word sent to Fort Northkill to take measures against the Indians. Fort Lebanon - built 1754, on the fork of two branches of the Schuylkill about 1 and 1/2 mile east of Auburn, Schuylkill Co. (then Berks). Fort Franklin - east end of Albany Twp. Fort Hunter - near Harrisburg on the Susquehanna. Fort Harris - at Harrisburg. Fort Manada - Dauphin Co. Fort Swatara - Lebanon Co. Fort Everett - Lehigh Co. Fort Allen - Carbon Co. Fort Augusta - on the Susquehanna at Shamokin, Northumberland Co. (now know as Sunbury). Hope this is helpful! Ann Rickard, SC

I can Help on MOHR John [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 01/20/1999 4:22:18 PM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > re: diffenbach; > > i found some listed in berks co. church records. > > Hi Jim > I don't know if it fits or not. All I have to go on is Catharine DIFFENBACH > husband was > born in 1761 and their first child was born in 1784 so it might. I will keep > it on file to see. > But my MOGLE and MOORE/MOHR came from Berks,co. So I suspect that if they > aren't a direct line they will fit in the extended family. > Thank you so much for the info that you have sent me. It does give me a place > to start > with. > Thanks > Kay > of the MOGLE/MOGEL/MOORE/MOHR/DIFFENBACH and related families. > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > You have a friend in Pennsylvania... -- John L. Getz, Jr. MD Jo Getz 266 Egret Lane Vero Beach, FL 32963-2623 Ph. 561-234-5364 [email protected] Genealogy Hobbyist, 11 years, Anxious to share and compare. 35,000 + names linked in database. Mostly from Germany, Switzerland, Pennsylvania, York County at least in the beginning. GETZ- BARBEHENN- LANIUS/LAUNIUS- HOFF- GROFF/GROVE- BUSER/BUSSER- STRAUSBAUGH,- REISINGER- BORTNER- ILGENFRITZ- MOHR- BATDORF- WALBORN- KOPPENHAFER- MORAVIAN/CHURCH- AND OF COURSE MANY MORE.

HELLO THERE, I NOTICE THERE IS SOMEONE LOOKING UP THE NAME OF MENTZ. I WONDER IF IT HAD BEEN SHORTENED FROM MENTZER? WOULD YOU PLEASE LOOK THE NAMES, BOWMAN, LANKTON, HICKSON & MENTZER UP FOR ME? THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DO THIS. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. BEST WISHES, DOROTHY COTE

In a message dated 01/20/1999 4:22:18 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > re: diffenbach; > i found some listed in berks co. church records. Hi Jim I don't know if it fits or not. All I have to go on is Catharine DIFFENBACH husband was born in 1761 and their first child was born in 1784 so it might. I will keep it on file to see. But my MOGLE and MOORE/MOHR came from Berks,co. So I suspect that if they aren't a direct line they will fit in the extended family. Thank you so much for the info that you have sent me. It does give me a place to start with. Thanks Kay of the MOGLE/MOGEL/MOORE/MOHR/DIFFENBACH and related families.

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-----Original Message----- From: Charles Attfield <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH-L] Pennsylvania Dutch Pioneers >[email protected] wrote: >> >> I have Don Yoders 2 books, Pa. German Immigrants1709-1786 and Rhineland >> Emigrants, I will do lookups for the next 2 weeks. >> Sylvia >> Looking for any spelling similar to Fassnacht. Thanks. Bruce Fosnocht

Carol, Here's something on the Schuylkill County, PA OTTO family - OTTO, Henrich, born ?, known for "Fratur work", father of: OTTO, William B., born May 25, 1761 in Brecknock Twp., Lancaster Co., PA. First wife unknown, Second wife Margareth KESSLER, b. March 5, 1784 dau. of Micheal KESSLER. Family moved to Lower Mahantongo Twp., Berks Co. (area now known as Hegins Twp., Schuylkill Co., PA.) William was known also for his "Fratur" work. Children of William OTTO and wife #1: Anna Maria, b. Nov. 15, 1788 Christina, b. Oct. 26, 1793 Magdalena, b. Nov. 6, 1795 Catarina, b. March 20, 1803 Children of William OTTO and wife #2: Jonathan, b. Sept. 22, 1805 - married Susanna BRESSLER, born March 20, 1805. Their children were: Jonathan B., b. Sept. 22, 1837 (living in 1930) Nathaniel B., b. 1840, d. May 29, 1930 (fought in Civil War, taking place of brother, John. Plus John, William, Solomon, Annie, Susanna, David, Joel, Katie, and Rebecca. Salome, b. April 22, 1807 - married Daniel GEHRES. Daniel, b. Sept. 28, 1809 - married and moved to Illinois. David H., b. Jan. 23, 1815 - married Catherine HAUBERACHER (1814 to 1898) - d. 1874. Their children were: Carolina, William B., Marie, Lydia, and Aaron H., b. Sept. 14, 1846 - married in 1869 to Rebecca BRESSLER - plus Hiram, David H., Tobias, and Isabella. Peter, b. Sept. 23, 1817, d. Nov. 28, 1906 - married Catharine STUTZMAN, b. Nov. 11, 1821 and d. Dec. 30, 1905. They lived in Fountain, he was a carpenter, had a white beard. Both are buried in Union cemetery, Fountain, PA. Their children were: Anna, b. Jan. 4, 1839 in Hegins, d. April 11, 1920 in Barry Twp., Schuylkill Co. Mar. John Philip LUCAS B. July 23, 1840 Barry Twp. d. there Aug. 23, 1918, son of Philip & Sarah Salome (NEY) LUCAS. Both buried in St. John's Evangelical Lutheran Church (called KIMMEL's) Cemetery, Barry Twp. Peter - killed in Civil War Simon Peter b. Feb. 4, 1843 in Mahantongo Twp. and bapt. April 17, 1843 by Honorable PARADENGER with parents as witnesses. Died Nov. 4, 1919. Married Abbey REBUCK (1838 - Dec. 11, 1907) Both buried Union Cemetery, Fountain. Children: Emma Jane (1868-1952) mar. John SCHADLE (1867-1973), s. of John & Eliz.(CARL)SCHADLE. Son ______? Nathan, - married Catharine HAND - no children. Elizabeth (Lizzie) - married ________ FOGLE. Mary - mar. William THOMAS, had 6 children. Catharine (8-4-1852 - 2-9-1929) mar. Henry WILLIAMS, had 4 children. John, mar. Polly SCHAEFFER - had eleven children. Solomon, b. Feb. 27, 1820 - married Lydia ARTZ There are three other descendents in this Otto line - Calvin, Harry E., and Rufus who died at age 23 - don't know how they fit into families. Source: "Genealogical Data Collected and Compiled by Ivy Nickle, Swanton, Ohio", from microfiche #6018429 titled, Genealogical Data on Pennsylvania Families". Elliott: BLUE BOOK OF SCHUYLKILL COUNTY, Pottsville, 1916. HISTORY OF SCHUYLKILL COUNTY PA, ed. by Schalck & Henning of the State Historical Association, 1907. The Hegins, PA Homecoming Book of 1931. Rupp, 30,000 NAMES OF IMMIGRANTS, Phila., 1927. Also, Grant SCHADLE and OTTO family records now/previously in possession of Estella StUTZMAN COLEMAN of Hegins, PA. And, Bodo OTTO, of Reading, is part of this family. He served as surgeon under George Washington, Revolutionary War. He's in the DAR records. Also, there's a Taufschein of Simon OTTO and Catarinn STUTZMANN of Mahoney Twp., Schuylkill Co., PA in the Archives of Penna. Dutch Studies Program at Ursinus College, Collegeville, PA. Good luck! Ann Rickard, SC STUTZMANN descendent ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: INTERNET:[email protected], INTERNET:[email protected] TO: PENNA-DUTCH-L, INTERNET:[email protected] DATE: 1/20/99 10:44 PM RE: Re: [PENNA-DUTCH-L] Pennsylvania Dutch Pioneers From: [email protected] Dear Ann, No, I don't know about the OTTO family from Schuykill. I've been trying to get info on them for some time now. How can I find out about them? Thank you for your msg. Carol

Hi Sylvia Please look up Hutter Thank you, Gerry Evans

cathy did you ever get the names of the berks county churches? there are some arnolds & smith listed in the book i have. be glad to share jim ---------- > > Can someone please tell me what churches existed in the Berks Co. area in > the late 1700s and early 1800s and how I could access their records. I'm > hoping to find information on my elusive ARNOLD & SMITH lines. The most > likely churches would be Brethren or Lutheran & Reformed, but other > churches could be a possibility, I suppose. > > Thank you very much! > > Cathy Martin > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Our new web site is at: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~padutch/ > >

Ann, Thank you very, very much for this information! I don't have anything that matches to this family yet, but hope I can find something to tie us in. Carol

[email protected] wrote: > > I have Don Yoders 2 books, Pa. German Immigrants1709-1786 and Rhineland > Emigrants, I will do lookups for the next 2 weeks. > Sylvia > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Welcome to our list! We are always friendly here.Hi Sylvia - Could you look up the name "Mintz" or anything similar for me. Thanks June

Hi Sylvia: Thanks a heep for your look up offer. Looking for information on Barbara Hostettler born abt. 1722, died abt 1749. Was Amish from Bern Switzerland. Father Oswald Hostettler, Mother, Maria. Married Samuel Singer, born abt 1720. No other information known about these two. Also would you please check to see if any Singers are mentioned in the books by Yoder. Thank you John B. Singer

Joan L - did I correspond with you before about Lutz? Anna Margaretha Franck 1740-1804, of Lancaster, a daughter of my immigrant married first Friedrich Lutz and had I think four children that I know about. He died ca 1777 and she then married Nicholas Groll or Kroll. You can have the children if you want them; I know nothing about Friedrich and wonder if you do? Jan [email protected] wrote: > > Sylvia, > > Would you please see if there are any Lutz's, Bossler', (Boszler) , or Sands > in > > your books. > > Thank you in advance, > > Joan L in Fl > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Our new web site is at: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~padutch/ -- Janice Frank <[email protected]> Researching names: BISCHOFF, DIETRICH, FRANCK/FRANK, KELLER, KUNZ/KUNTZ, LUPHER/LUPFER/LUPER, SCHULTZ/SHULTZ, TAYLOR

Sylvia: Please see if the surname KNOTE is among the pioneers plus Adam Hoover. Thanks very much for taking the time. Barbara Knote Head [email protected] wrote: > I have Don Yoders 2 books, Pa. German Immigrants1709-1786 and Rhineland > Emigrants, I will do lookups for the next 2 weeks. > Sylvia > > ==== PENNA-DUTCH Mailing List ==== > Welcome to our list! We are always friendly here.

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In a message dated 99-01-21 13:45:38 EST, you write: > As people have moved around this country, I can't imagine > any list it would not apply to. Marguerite, they do NOT appear to have any connection to the PADutch directly, or for that matter indirectly. Please do not post material to this list that does not apply to the Penna-Dutch. The information is great, but has no connection to this list. Thanks! Joan

Sylvia, Thanks for the look-up offer. I am searching for info on the HERNLEY/HERNLY/HARNLY/HOERNLE/H(ERNLE family. The immigrant ancestor, Ulrich Hernley, also signed his mark (VH) on the ship list for St. Andrew arrived Philly SEP 1737. He was listed as Ulrich HORN, so any listing of this name would also be of interest to me. I am particularly interested in information regarding the activities and whereabouts of Ulrich and his family between the time he landed in Philly and when he first appears in the Lancaster Co. Records, having purchased a farm north of Manheim (Rapho twp) about 1756-1759. Any references are appreciated. Thanks again F. Vincent Hernly Laboratory Coordinator and Instructor IUPUI Department of Geology 723 W. Michigan St. SL118 Indianapolis, IN 46202-5132 (317) 274-7484 (W) (317) 274-7966 (FAX) [email protected] www.geology.iupui.edu